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Originally posted by ateuprto
reply to post by vermonster
The hell does that have to do with anything? Stay on topic and quit trying to raise people's blood pressure. My point is that idiots who go directly to where officers are with a video camera, making the officer nervous while carrying a sidearm does more to hurt the 2nd amendment than anything. You want to give states and the federal government more reasons to tighten the noose on firearms laws, keep up with these childish and borderline retarded antics. It's going to be real fun when one of these "freedom loving" AAA butt holes gets drawn on and killed by an officer. Will it be worth it then?
You want to argue with a cop over a RANDOM stop due to open carrying, be my guest. This jerk-off has nothing to gripe about, as he approached the officer and stood BEHIND HIM with a firearm exposed and within reach.
Originally posted by ateuprto
I'm all for the 2nd amendment and an individual's autonomy, but he KNOWINGLY approached a single officer on a traffic stop and stood out of that officer's view with a sidearm on his hip. Legal or not, this guy is an idiot.
This man's actions haven't helped anyone. He's just another self-righteous idiot doing more harm than good.edit on 12-7-2011 by ateuprto because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Malcram
reply to post by wingsfan
But dont you get the point? Open carrying is legal. Its his right.
Only by exercising rights do you get to keep them, and only by exercising them are the Police reminded its lawful. Imagine if everyone took your advice and open carrying was so rare the cops had no idea it was legal, so they assume its illegal and act accordingly, more and more.
Then its a short and easy step to take away the right in law, after all no one uses it (they're all being 'tactful') and the cops are against it and 'uncomfortable' with it (because they're not used to it, because its rare).
You have to exercise rights to keep them. Or see them eroded one by one.
edit on 13-7-2011 by Malcram because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by AboveTheTrees
I'm truly shocked by the possessiveness of the first officer...
STAGE 1 from 0 to 2 "MY DOLL"
www2.scholastic.com...
Originally posted by BIGPoJo
Originally posted by AboveTheTrees
I'm truly shocked by the possessiveness of the first officer...
STAGE 1 from 0 to 2 "MY DOLL"
www2.scholastic.com...
Probably a Marine, they taught us that when dealing with "things" they become "ours."
I would feel concern too if I was that cop and observed an armed man approach my scene. The main mistake the cops made was reengaging the man after the first cop initially let him go. The supervisor came over to check the guy out probably because the fist cop is confused and concerned about the man open carrying.
Originally posted by ateuprto
I'm all for the 2nd amendment and an individual's autonomy, but he KNOWINGLY approached a single officer on a traffic stop and stood out of that officer's view with a sidearm on his hip. Legal or not, this guy is an idiot.
This man's actions haven't helped anyone. He's just another self-righteous idiot doing more harm than good.edit on 12-7-2011 by ateuprto because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Question Fate
Originally posted by vermonster
This is a great example of an American exercising his rights in a police state. He acts calmly even when the officers lie about the law. I think, whether you believe in open carry or not, this is a great example of someone not letting power hungry jackbooted thugs speak like they are anything but, unintelligent underpaid goons.
It's about 10 minutes, enjoy the show.
VIDEO VIDEO VIDEO VIDEO
ps The City of Santa Fe should be ashamed of the first officer. I doubt his high school diploma is legit.
verm
edit on July 12th 2011 by greeneyedleo because: (no reason given)
although pete was in the right, its not a good idea to walk up on a traffic stop out of the blue with a gun. whole situation couldve been handled better on both sides.
Originally posted by AwakeinNM
Originally posted by Question Fate
Originally posted by vermonster
This is a great example of an American exercising his rights in a police state. He acts calmly even when the officers lie about the law. I think, whether you believe in open carry or not, this is a great example of someone not letting power hungry jackbooted thugs speak like they are anything but, unintelligent underpaid goons.
It's about 10 minutes, enjoy the show.
VIDEO VIDEO VIDEO VIDEO
ps The City of Santa Fe should be ashamed of the first officer. I doubt his high school diploma is legit.
verm
edit on July 12th 2011 by greeneyedleo because: (no reason given)
although pete was in the right, its not a good idea to walk up on a traffic stop out of the blue with a gun. whole situation couldve been handled better on both sides.
You're out walking while open-carrying and you come up on a traffic stop. What do you think a better idea would be, take your gun and toss it into some bushes? Now wouldn't THAT look suspicious?
Doesn't matter if it's a good idea or not - he wasn't breaking any laws.
But dont you get the point? Open carrying is legal. Its his right.
Only by exercising rights do you get to keep them, and only by exercising them are the Police reminded its lawful. Imagine if everyone took your advice and open carrying was so rare the cops had no idea it was legal, so they assume its illegal and act accordingly, more and more.
Then its a short and easy step to take away the right in law, after all no one uses it (they're all being 'tactful') and the cops are against it and 'uncomfortable' with it (because they're not used to it, because its rare).
You have to exercise rights to keep them. Or see them eroded one by one.
it's NOT the right way to go about showing your rights.
Originally posted by AeonStorm
Originally posted by AwakeinNM
Originally posted by Question Fate
Originally posted by vermonster
This is a great example of an American exercising his rights in a police state. He acts calmly even when the officers lie about the law. I think, whether you believe in open carry or not, this is a great example of someone not letting power hungry jackbooted thugs speak like they are anything but, unintelligent underpaid goons.
It's about 10 minutes, enjoy the show.
VIDEO VIDEO VIDEO VIDEO
ps The City of Santa Fe should be ashamed of the first officer. I doubt his high school diploma is legit.
verm
edit on July 12th 2011 by greeneyedleo because: (no reason given)
although pete was in the right, its not a good idea to walk up on a traffic stop out of the blue with a gun. whole situation couldve been handled better on both sides.
You're out walking while open-carrying and you come up on a traffic stop. What do you think a better idea would be, take your gun and toss it into some bushes? Now wouldn't THAT look suspicious?
Doesn't matter if it's a good idea or not - he wasn't breaking any laws.
You're kidding right??? He should have left his weapon is his vehicle if he was planning to talk to the police directly!
Would YOU approach the police with a weapon in plain sight if all you planned to do was to talk to them about their actions??