posted on Jul, 23 2011 @ 08:21 PM
reply to post by saturnsrings
First off, I'm not an economist.
Don't sweat it. Paul Krugman is, and a Nobel winner in economics to boot, and he's an idiot.
Second, my main reason to post in this thread was to clear up a few things because Obama was being obviously bashed. He didn't create the mess, that
was eight years in the making, and he certainly hasn't made things worse.
You don't need to be an economist to know that the economic crisis we face has been more than just eight years in the making. Try one hundred years,
and certainly since 1972 when the dollar was taken off of the gold standard.
I know full well that both parties are at the beck and call of big business, and the money that goes with it. We are being scammed in every way, by
those we elect. The fact that there is little we can do about it, is a different thread all together.
Sure, try to get agreement that this is a problem created by business, and disguise the call for agreement on that by calling it "big business".
The fact of the matter is that there is far more than "little" that we can do about it. Of course, maybe I just have a mouse in my pocket and we
can do far more, or maybe at some point you'll figure out that you have basic fundamental rights to earn a living and that you don't need permission
from the state in order to do so. Then maybe you'll find the courage of conviction to actually earn that living regardless of what legislatures say
about it. It takes courage, to be sure. It takes even temerity, but it is far more than "little".
As previously stated, I'm a Paul supporter, but I'm also a realist. He doesn't stand a chance against the money that will be "donated" to all the
Seeking some sort of protected status by declaring yourself a political acolyte of the currently politically anointed Messiah does not disguise the
fact that your misplaced faith in government, and especially your misplaced faith in the idea that the Presidency can somehow fix economic problems,
is revelatory of the basic problem in this country. As long as we keep waiting for that Messiah, we will keep waiting. When we finally decide to
live our lives as we deem fit, and begin making the necessary efforts to flourish and prosper, then the problems will get fixed...and shortly
thereafter several politicians will take credit for it.
The two worst economic messes this country has endured have come under republican Presidents, along with very low tax rates, fact. The wealthy have a
very low effective tax rate. Another fact.
Are seriously arguing that high rates of taxation are good for economies? You don't need to be an economist to understand the absurdity of that.
Thanks for the debate, it kind of feels good to chat politics with someone that isn't swearing at me, and vice versa.
It's summer time, so all the kids are out of school and bored. Be patient with them and some of them will actually learn something, as well as you
and I too.