Obama warns - August 3rd - Possibly no social security checks will be paid.

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posted on Jul, 12 2011 @ 03:11 PM
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Originally posted by poet1b
Meanwhile the super rich continue with their program of selling our country to China.


I really wish you would do a lil research
before spouting off your false retorts.

China (Government or it's People)
do not own any American Debt !!!!

Did you understand that statement ???

If not, I will explain.
The debt is held by the Bank of China
which is a private entity like our Federal
Reserve. It has a board of directors
which govern it's actions. None of these
board members are Chinese. They are
International Bankers from Britain, Swiss
and the Netherlands. Saying that folks
are selling America to the Chinese is
a fabrication. Selling American debt
to the Bank of China has absolutely nothing
to do with China or it's people.




posted on Jul, 12 2011 @ 03:12 PM
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I implore you to go back through the first few pages of this thread. There are actual articles and videos backing up Obama's words that he'll stop Social Security checks.



posted on Jul, 12 2011 @ 03:13 PM
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MainLine, this site is full of well informed, well educated, and well meaning analytic people. I doubt the majority of these responses are "knee-jerk" as you state above. Stop flaming and read the responses.

Moderators, I know this post is off topic, so please give MainLine a few minutes to read this before you remove it from the thread.
edit on 12-7-2011 by memarf1 because: Wasn't a double post by the time I posted it. haha



posted on Jul, 12 2011 @ 03:27 PM
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this is no good at all my father has a job and also i do but we relie on my grandma,s ss who lives with us to get bye times are tough man anonymous wont stand for this



posted on Jul, 12 2011 @ 03:32 PM
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Originally posted by ManBehindTheMask
Yet no one is screaming for his head.........if this was a conservative theyd be coming at him with pitchforks, saying he hates old people and people who are crippled......


WRONG! It IS the Conservatives who use the tactics you are suggesting.

Geeze - - maybe they should try to work with the Democrats for a change.l



posted on Jul, 12 2011 @ 03:38 PM
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It's our own fault for allowing this BS to continue..

WE need to put a stop to all this BS NOW. It will only get worse, and worse if WE do not put a stop to it.

WE, the people, must bring this charade to a stop.

The left, the right, the neocons, the anarchists, the socialists, the utopians, the rich, the poor, the young, the elderly, the black, the white, the asian, the hispanic, the christian, the jews, the catholics, the Mormons, and so on. ALL TERMS TO DIVIDE AND CONQUER.

WE all are suffering under the BS that these incompetent windbags are costing US our country, our livelyhoods, our homes, our families, our futures.

WE must STOP this INSANITY NOW.



posted on Jul, 12 2011 @ 03:45 PM
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So my father who worked 55 yrs will get nothing and the 23 yr old meth head who turned his brain to swiss cheese will still be able to collect disability! Every other country on the planet except Pakistan will continue to get aid, prisoners will continue to get free cable and better medical care, Illegal immigrants will continue to get a free education and food stamps and we will continue to fight 3 or 4 unwinnable wars but my father who paid into the system all his life is left to starve.

Ah the American dream.
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posted on Jul, 12 2011 @ 03:52 PM
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Originally posted by joyride0187
So my father who worked 55 yrs will get nothing and the 23 yr old meth head who turned his brain to swiss cheese will still be able to collect disability! Every other country on the planet except Pakistan will continue to get aid, prisoners will continue to get free cable and better medical care, Illegal immigrants will continue to get a free education and food stamps and we will continue to fight 3 or 4 unwinnable wars but my father who paid into the system all his life is left to starve.

Ah the American dream.
edit on 12-7-2011 by joyride0187 because: (no reason given)


Sad but true. Obama isn't interested in earning the vote of the aging population. He's going to skip right over them and he's not scared to do it. Obamacare was the first clue and now we have this statement by him.

He wants to nurture and harvest the vote from the very people you described. Obama sees them as gold and wouldn't dare touch any payments heading their way..



posted on Jul, 12 2011 @ 03:54 PM
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Obama says there may not be money to pay the 70 mil in checks of not just disability but Veteran's checks as well.
The 3rd 'may' be the day after the Government goes into default...

Published on Jul 12, 2011 by CBSNewsOnline
President Obama said that he cannot guarantee that social security checks will go out on August 3. Watch more of the interview tonight on the CBS Evening News with Scott Pelley.Note from the video




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posted on Jul, 12 2011 @ 03:59 PM
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Obama's such a piece of work...of course he'd pull this scare tactic out of his pants...he'll do it all with a smile on his face too...
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posted on Jul, 12 2011 @ 04:15 PM
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Originally posted by ManBehindTheMask[/]
Wheres the "We need to work together" attitude Mr.President?

Oh thats right.......only when people agree to YOUR terms do you consider it "reaching across the table"

This guy is as much a clown as Bozo was on TV when I was a kid........Obama is as crazy as Bozo looked.......


Obama alienates and looks beyond his base to appease you and your star contributors!
It is the demented campaign of doom that taints your judgement as
To the extent of his desire to please YALL.



posted on Jul, 12 2011 @ 04:23 PM
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While looking through various sites and reading comments with articles I ran across the following comment on CBSNEWS via DRUDGE Obama says he cannot guarantee Social Security checks will go out on August 3.


Comment by FLharleyPM July 12, 2011 4:00 PM EDT

Think real hard and listen very carefully what he just proposed...Social Security checks may not go out on August 3rd if the debt ceiling is not raised,That means that the imperial federal government needs to borrow more money (in other words it runs out of cash ),above and beyond the statutory limit in place right now at $14.23 trillion dollars, in order to just meet its obligations for social security and military pay.

Doesn't that frighten the living daylights out of you?

What he's just proposed withholding Social Security checks is very telling,This is extortion, pure and simple,This is beyond fear mongering.

Every American, right now, should be burning up the phone lines to their Senate and Congressional representatives to tell them that we will not "submit" to his extortion and start writing up the articles of impeachment, right now.

This man took an oath to faithfully execute the Office of the President of the United States of America and to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States of America.

This country is not a tyranny or a dictatorship,We are a Republic and all citizens have rights.

Article II, Section 4....."The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.".....this "proposal" by Barack Hussein Obama to threaten to withhold legislated payments to citizens of this country is extortion or "bribery" and I believe fits the definition of "high crimes and misdemeanors".

CBSNEWS via DRUDGE

Now I'm wondering if the last part would be true and possible to get this idiot out of office. Biden might be no better but he doesn't seem to be as big of an iideologue and could maybe really work with congress.



posted on Jul, 12 2011 @ 04:24 PM
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Originally posted by memarf1
reply to post by MainLineThis
 


MainLine, this site is full of well informed, well educated, and well meaning analytic people. I doubt the majority of these responses are "knee-jerk" as you state above. Stop flaming and read the responses.

Moderators, I know this post is off topic, so please give MainLine a few minutes to read this before you remove it from the thread.
edits on 12-7-2011 by memarf1 because: Wasn't a double post by the time I posted it. haha


There is a load of knee jerk reaction that does eminate from
Site, the site is built around the theme of paranoia

I know for one, initiating another global cataclysm would
End Americas role as we know it. We are lucky that we have saved face
Thus far. The knee jerk is the lack of simple analysis, our money, your money
My money could very well be decimated with this compounding act of irresponsibility.
Ignoring this is next to jihadist in attitude and down syndrome in capacity.



posted on Jul, 12 2011 @ 04:38 PM
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Originally posted by Misoir

Originally posted by poet1b
reply to post by getreadyalready
 


The Trillion $$$ bailout was done on GW's watch, voted for and supported by the repubs, not Obama.


Haha what?!

clerk.house.gov...

YEAS

Democrats - 172
Republicans - 91

NOES

Democrats - 63
Republicans - 108

73% of Democrats voted YEA and 45% of Republicans voted YEA. I will admit it was close but the support came overwhelmingly from the Democrats in the House.

www.senate.gov...

YEAS

Democrats - 40
Republicans - 34

NOES

Democrats - 10
Republicans - 15

80% of Democrats voted YEA and 69% of Republicans voted YEA. Once again it was close but more Democrats came out in support of the bailout than Republicans.

But we cannot forget Mr. Spend-War-Wire Tap-Deficit known as Bush and it was his pushing for and signing of this legislation made it pass.

ya because they didn't have to answer to fawk all and they knew it

Should I put the Nafta... GLB bill votes up???

So righteous and innocent


I'm gonna send you a fawking monocle


In a decade I gaurentee you will drop your new identity, I guess it pains me
To see you get bamboozled wholesale.
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posted on Jul, 12 2011 @ 04:38 PM
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Here is the list of the Board members of the Bank of China.

www.bochk.com...

What a surprise, they are all Chinese.

When are you going to wake up to the reality that you have been totally conned.

I do agree that the bankers, who are the prime recipients of repub free market policies, completely support communist Chine, they, being a bunch of communists themselves.



posted on Jul, 12 2011 @ 04:43 PM
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Meet the Islamic Bank of Asia's new CEO, Toby O'Connor:
esharianomics.com...

Sounds mighty Irish-American to me. Hmmm.
No surprise he used to work for JP Morgan.



posted on Jul, 12 2011 @ 04:45 PM
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well, at least it wasn't the military pay this time!!!
so, now, it's the social security.

okay, technically this would BE default!! if social security hasn't taken in enough revenue this past month to cover these checks, well, the fund is one of the biggest holders of that debt, and one of the conditions that was stipulated when they took the reserves out of the fund was that the money would be paid back, on demand, when it was needed!!!

and well, I don't see where all the blaming obama is coming from really, it's congress that has to come to agreement, which is gonna be rather difficult when one side doesn't want to cut the spending, and the other doesn't want to increase the revenues. obama tried to work out a deal, and was blasted by both sides, how dare he put social security on the table!! heck no!! we aren't allowing any increases in taxes!!
I propose that if there isn't enough money to cover the checks for social security, that the add all those politicians, the pres, the vp, the senate, and the house, salaries into the pot and divide it among the seniors..most of who were faithful in going to work everyday, doing a better job that these fools we call leaders are doing, paid their taxes (even that social security tax that well, came with a promise!!), raised their kids, and usually play a major role in their grandkid's lives!!

obama put social security one the table, with the condition that any savings from cuts to the program would be used to fortify the program, not go into paying off d debt that social security had no part in creating (unless of course, you consider the fact that the program isn't beinging in a giant surplus anymore and keeping the gov't from putting the printing press into hyperdrive mush sooner, or borrowing the money from other, more costly, sources!!

what can we do???
if this actually happens, which I doubt it will.....
but who know...
well, we start up a few charities that are specifically to help the elderly that have lost this revenue...
we figure out just how much we will be paying in taxes...
we give all we can to this charity, hopefully to the point where the deduction amounts are close to what we would be paying...
and well, we write our elected representatives and we tell them what we are doing, and informing them in advance that they will not be getting much from us till this issue is resolved and our elderly are no longer in need of this charity!!!



posted on Jul, 12 2011 @ 04:45 PM
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Originally posted by Janky Red

Originally posted by ManBehindTheMask[/]
Wheres the "We need to work together" attitude Mr.President?

Oh thats right.......only when people agree to YOUR terms do you consider it "reaching across the table"

This guy is as much a clown as Bozo was on TV when I was a kid........Obama is as crazy as Bozo looked.......


Obama alienates and looks beyond his base to appease you and your star contributors!
It is the demented campaign of doom that taints your judgement as
To the extent of his desire to please YALL.


You mean campaign of doom like threatening Social Security if he doesnt get his way?

Do you even read what you post? Or are you so pro Obama you cant read the writting on the wall



posted on Jul, 12 2011 @ 04:58 PM
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And, that is a vote on a senate amendment, and tells absolutely nothing about repub support for the bailout.

The repubs supported it completely, many simply wanted a no strings attached bailout that allowed the banks to steal even more money from the people.

Here is an article that paints the picture in a realistic light.

www.kattenlaw.com...

The whole bailout was a result of repub deregulation policies and a repub admin that refused to do its job and protect the People of the U.S. from criminal actions by bankers. That Misoir wants to blame this on democrats shows just how warped his mind is.

edit on 12-7-2011 by poet1b because: Oops, confusion on the quotes.



posted on Jul, 12 2011 @ 05:03 PM
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Interesting, but has nothing to do with the Bank of China.

So one of our ivy league guys, probably a total free market disciple, is helping Arabs build mosques all over the planet, not surprised at all.





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