Originally posted by poet1b
reply to post by nenothtu
A "free market" is what built America - up until it started declining.
That is where once again, you depart from reality. The U.S. does not have a free market economy, never has, and never will. It is a unrealistic
ideology, and everytime conservative try to put such nonsense in place, Whether or not is in the U.S., Ireland, Iceland, Mongolia, or Greece, it is
always the same result.
I guess that you're going to have to define for me what in the devil you mean when you say "free market economy", then. I take it you're in favor
of a slave market economy instead?
What turned the U.S. into the successful country that it is, is our well drafted constitution, with the balance of powers that establishes our
I missed the part where the constitution says it establishes a democratic
republic. You can probably point that place out to me.
The U.S. economy has been regulated from the beginning, read the constitution.
I have, several times. It give the federal government the power to coin money, which authority it has absconded on, giving it instead to a private
corporation, and to regulate commerce disputes between states, which power it has greatly abused to the point of making it meaningless, and it is
given the power to levy very specific sorts of taxes.. That's it. No other powers regarding commerce issues are allotted to the federal
When the U.S. economy is properly regulated it functions well. See the U.S. in the 50tie, 60tie, and the 90ties.
Only democrat administrations though, right?
Ohm, and Reagan did not fix stagflation,
Of course he did. What country are you from?
Carter inherited it from Ford/Nixon, and put in place the policies that finally ended stagflation.
oh, I see now. It HAD to be Carter who "fixed" it, since he is the democrat. never mind the fact that we continually went off the rails for the
entirety of his administration...
Seriously, if you want to pursue that line of thought, you probably ought to point at Clinton as a democrat that had at least a half-assed grasp on
economic matters. Carter is definitely NOT the example you ought to be using... Clinton, on the other hand, did a fair job of it, other than all those
"free trade" agreements he was fond of.
Reagan is the guy who took us from being a creditor nation to being a debtor nation.
Uh, noooo.... a review of history can be a real eye opener for you. How many of the last 80 or 100 years saw a balanced budget? How many of those
years saw the US not in debt? Yet somehow it's all Reagan's fault? Ah, how silly of me - I almost lost sight of the fact that he was a republican...
there HAD to be something wrong with him, solely based on that, right?
Or maybe if the problem was in a democrat administration, it had to be "inherited" from a republican, and if it was in a republican administration,
he had to have created it? If a republican administration went well, that was of course inherited from the last democrat in office, right? Regardless
of how that democrat performed when in office?
In all honesty, as long as you see the world through those democrat colored glasses, there just ain't going to be any meaningful conversation with
you. The democrats are no more beatified saints than the republicans are. The sooner you put down the dixie cup full of kool-aid and mull that thought
over, the closer you will be to seeing the world as it is, rather than as you wish
Again, whether a chief executive "inherits" a situation or buys it on his own is immaterial compared with what he DOES with it while he owns it -
and that's not dependent on partisan lines.