Originally posted by megawattboss
In the meantime, please don't belittle my superior prowess with regards to this specific topic with the mention of my "ad hominem" attacks.
I hope you don't expect anyone to take you as seriously as you take yourself!
What do you make of these (they are paraphrases, from the Koran but are paraphrases of a very respected translation and entirely consistant with the
1. Non Muslims are both Muslim's and Allah's enemy.
60:1 Don't be friends with disbelievers. They are your (and Allah's) enemy.
60:1 O ye who believe! Choose not My enemy and your enemy for allies. Do ye give them friendship when they disbelieve in that truth which hath come
unto you, driving out the messenger and you because ye believe in Allah, your Lord ? If ye have come forth to strive in My way and seeking My good
pleasure, (show them not friendship). Do ye show friendship unto them in secret, when I am Best Aware of what ye hide and what ye proclaim ? And
whosoever doeth it among you, he verily hath strayed from the right way.
63:4 Disbelievers are perverted. They are the enemy, confounded by Allah.
63:4 And when thou seest them their figures please thee; and if they speak thou givest ear unto their speech. (They are) as though they were blocks of
wood in striped cloaks. They deem every shout to be against them. They are the enemy, so beware of them. Allah confound them! How they are
2. If a Muslim is friends with a non-Muslim, Allah has prepared a terrible doom.
58:14-15 Don't make friends with Allah's enemies. For those who do so, Allah has prepared a dreadful doom.
58:14 Hast thou not seen those who take for friends a folk with whom Allah is wroth? They are neither of you nor of them, and they swear a false oath
58:15 Allah hath prepared for them a dreadful doom. Evil indeed is that which they are wont to do.
5:80 Muslims that make friends with disbelievers will face a doom prepared for them by Allah.
5:80 Thou seest many of them making friends with those who disbelieve. Surely ill for them is that which they themselves send on before them: that
Allah will be wroth with them and in the doom they will abide.
3. Muslims are instructed to stay away from and to not be friends with non Muslims.
Stay away from non-Muslims, especially those who disbelieve in the afterlife. 53:29
53:27 Lo! it is those who disbelieve in the Hereafter who name the angels with the names of females. Those who disbelieve in the afterlife give female
names to angels.
53:28 And they have no knowledge thereof. They follow but a guess, and lo! a guess can never take the place of the truth.
53:29 Then withdraw (O Muhammad) from him who fleeth from Our remembrance and desireth but the life of the world.
4:144 Do not choose disbelievers as friends.
4:144 O ye who believe! Choose not disbelievers for (your) friends in place of believers. Would ye give Allah a clear warrant against you ?
5:51 Don't take Jews or Christians for friends. If you do, then Allah will consider you to be one of them.
5:51 O ye who believe! Take not the Jews and the Christians for friends. They are friends one to another. He among you who taketh them for friends is
(one) of them. Lo! Allah guideth not wrongdoing folk.
4. Non Muslims and their poisonous talk is to be ignored
33:48 Ignore disbelievers and their poisonous talk.
33:48 And incline not to the disbelievers and the hypocrites. Disregard their noxious talk, and put thy trust in Allah. Allah is sufficient as
5. Non Muslims are liars and wrong doers to be stayed away from.
9:107 Stay away from non-Muslims. They are all liars.
9:107 And as for those who chose a place of worship out of opposition and disbelief, and in order to cause dissent among the believers, and as an
outpost for those who warred against Allah and His messenger aforetime, they will surely swear: We purposed naught save good. Allah beareth witness
that they verily are liars.
3:73 Don't believe anyone who is not a Muslim.
3:73 And believe not save in one who followeth your religion - Say (O Muhammad): Lo! the guidance is Allah's Guidance - that anyone is given the like
of that which was given unto you or that they may argue with you in the presence of their Lord. Say (O Muhammad): Lo! the bounty is in Allah's hand.
He bestoweth it on whom He will. Allah is All-Embracing, All-Knowing.
5:45 Non-Muslims are wrong doers.
5:45 And We prescribed for them therein: The life for the life, and the eye for the eye, and the nose for the nose, and the ear for the ear, and the
tooth for the tooth, and for wounds retaliation. But whoso forgoeth it (in the way of charity) it shall be expiation for him. Whoso judgeth not by
that which Allah hath revealed: such are wrong-doers.
59:11 The disbelieving people of the Scripture are liars.
59:11 Hast thou not observed those who are hypocrites, (how) they tell their brethren who disbelieve among the People of the Scripture: If ye are
driven out, we surely will go out with you, and we will never obey anyone against you, and if ye are attacked we verily will help you. And Allah
beareth witness that they verily are liars.
6:106 Stay away from idolaters.
6:106 Follow that which is inspired in thee from thy Lord; there is no God save Him; and turn away from the idolaters.
16:39 Disbelievers are liars.
16:39 That He may explain unto them that wherein they differ, and that those who disbelieved may know that they were liars.
6. Non Muslims are guilty, evil, wicked, evil-livers, who have diseased hearts and are not to be trusted
3:110 Muslims are the best people. Most Non-Muslims are "evil-livers."
3:110 Ye are the best community that hath been raised up for mankind. Ye enjoin right conduct and forbid indecency; and ye believe in Allah. And if
the People of the Scripture had believed it had been better for them. Some of them are believers; but most of them are evil-livers.
9:125 Disbelievers are wicked and have diseased hearts.
9:125 But as for those in whose hearts is disease, it only addeth wickedness to their wickedness, and they die while they are disbelievers.
45:31 Those who disbelieve are guilty folk.
45:31 And as for those who disbelieved (it will be said unto them): Were not Our revelations recited unto you ? But ye were scornful and became a
16:27-29 Disbelievers are evil and will dwell in hell forever.
16:27 Then on the Day of Resurrection He will disgrace them and will say: Where are My partners, for whose sake ye opposed (My guidance) ? Those who
have been given knowledge will say: Disgrace this day and evil are upon the disbelievers,
16:28 Whom the angels cause to die while they are wronging themselves. Then will they make full submission (saying): We used not to do any wrong. Nay!
Surely Allah is Knower of what ye used to do.
16:29 So enter the gates of hell, to dwell therein for ever. Woeful indeed will be the lodging of the arrogant.
9:7-9 Don't make treaties with non-Muslims. They are all evildoers and should not be trusted.
9:7 How can there be a treaty with Allah and with His messenger for the idolaters save those with whom ye made a treaty at the Inviolable Place of
Worship ? So long as they are true to you, be true to them. Lo! Allah loveth those who keep their duty.
9:8 How (can there be any treaty for the others) when, if they have the upper hand of you, they regard not pact nor honour in respect of you ? They
satisfy you with their mouths the while their hearts refuse. And most of them are wrongdoers.
9:9 They have purchased with the revelations of Allah a little gain, so they debar (men) from His way. Lo! evil is that which they are wont to do.
7. Don't be friends with non-Muslims. Kill them instead.
4:89 Have no unbelieving friends. Kill the unbelievers wherever you find them.
4:89 They long that ye should disbelieve even as they disbelieve, that ye may be upon a level (with them). So choose not friends from them till they
forsake their homes in the way of Allah; if they turn back (to enmity) then take them and kill them wherever ye find them, and choose no friend nor
helper from among them,
8. Non-Believers secretly hate Muslims - don't be friends
3:118 Don't be friends with non-Muslims. They all hate you and want to ruin you.
3:118 O ye who believe! Take not for intimates others than your own folk, who would spare no pains to ruin you; they love to hamper you. Hatred is
revealed by (the utterance of) their mouths, but that which their breasts hide is greater. We have made plain for you the revelations if ye will
9. Don't pray for dead disbelievers or attend their funerals
Don't pray for dead disbelievers or attend their funerals. 9:84
9:84 And never (O Muhammad) pray for one of them who dieth, nor stand by his grave. Lo! they disbelieved in Allah and His messenger, and they died
while they were evil-doers.
So the Koran seems to be unequivocally anti-integration with clear prohibitions on Muslims becoming friends with Non Muslims.
But don't tell me...
They are out of context
The translation is wrong
Only a Muslim can understand the Koran
Just you stick to your ad hominium attacks. Its not that you are terribly good at them, just better than when you try to take yourself too
Originally posted by megawattboss
In the meantime, please don't belittle my superior prowess
You are a scream. Keep it up!
edit on 13-7-2011 by ollncasino because: Spelling and other minor changes