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posted on Jul, 11 2011 @ 11:02 AM
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man is this a joke or what am not sure atm, but in fact your complaining about how the animal is killed but infact your not complaing about the death of the animal . am sure you are wearing some sort of clothing from a sweatshop from a poor country. i cant rember the name of that clip on how animals are killed in normal meatfactorys but if the stun gun dont kill them they normaly beat it to death, but ofc its ok as long its its not muslims beating the animals to death right? normaly what theses "evil muslims" do is they pray before slitting the throat daam thoses mulsims the nerv of them right.
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posted on Jul, 11 2011 @ 11:04 AM
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Complete illogical fear.

Muslims are growing in numbers faster, what are you gonna do about it? Ban reproducing? Force them to only have one baby which I suggested through sarcasm in the Original Post? How does Muslims reproducing equate to Muslims taking over anyways?

So what if they demand stuff, how does that equate to Muslims taking over? Every segment of the society has the right to demand stuff, and it is up to the government to decide whether to grant those demands or not, the government chosen by the people. So once again, how does that equate to Muslims taking over the West?

Muslims praying outside over crowded Mosques, how does that equate to Muslims taking over the West?

Some Muslim youths approach a man and tells him you can't drink here, how does that equate to Muslims taking over?

Do you even see how irrational and illogical you sound?
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posted on Jul, 11 2011 @ 11:04 AM
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Originally posted by Suspiria

Oh you mean those supermarkets that replaced all the local butchers that people blindly go to buying the same pre packed crap week in week out without looking at the packet?.
Sorry but my main concern is the feeding of my family, not checking everything for some damn little squiggle.
Not everywhere has all the major supermarkets parked within local distance.



Yes I mean those supermarkets that sell that pre packed crap. It might be pre-packed but it's not Halal and that is my point, you've jumped onto a common misconception that has been banded around by sensationalist newspapers, christian blogs and right wing fascists intent on spreading hatred through ignorance.

I do not doubt that the main concern is the feeding of your family, as is mine, and there is no need to check for "some little squiggle" as everything is very clearly marked.

I would be very surprised that anywhere apart from major supermarkets would sell Halal meat. Of course I am not including the small markets that are generally owned by the muslim community and advertise quite clearly that their butchers are indeed Halal.

There's no under the radar stuff here.



posted on Jul, 11 2011 @ 11:06 AM
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I appreciate this thread is just a massive piss take, but to sweep aside peoples concerns (and no it's not just the Daily Fail reading majority) is folly. So is cocking your leg in a pissing contest over the gradual stealthed change to Halal meat. I couldn't really care less how it's killed, you could cosh it round the chops with a lump hammer and stick an electric dildo up its arse to kill it for all I care, but to laugh aside peoples concerns or whip them up into righteous frenzy is no better than any religious hatred inspired thread.

Troll thread is just that - a troll thread.



posted on Jul, 11 2011 @ 11:13 AM
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Book burning is inconsiderate of someone's religion and killing innocent people far away because of it is NUTS. Oh and I left out honour killing whatever That is!
And enough muzlims kill people for barbarian reasons that it's in the news almost every week and That's Too Much, and yes I know it's their culture but they can keep their culture at their home not mine. If christians and buddhisst etc. can't pray in schools and in the streets etc in America then neither can THEY.
Look at the Uk, it's over run with muzlims and their 'special law'.
I am against organized religion but christians/basicly catholic 'offenders' pretty much ended in the 13 century- is pretty much history. muzlims raping, head sawing, etc is now, if you want links , let me know there are Many.

Anyone that has a credo of kill the infadels is creppy and not to be trusted.



posted on Jul, 11 2011 @ 11:13 AM
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It is not a case of "cocking ones leg", it is a case of debate which is what this site thrives upon.

Asda & Tescos are the only two supremarkets to supply Halal meat and have been doing so since 2000, the rest of the supermarkets refuse to do it due to the unnecessarily cruelty of the ritual killing.

There is no gradual stealth takeover of Halal, it's as simple as that...

We are here to deny ignorance are we not?



posted on Jul, 11 2011 @ 11:18 AM
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ATS motto is "deny ignorance", you are doing very little to do that.

Do you even understand what you are talking about? See the title of the thread, it says Muslims are taking over the West?? Are they taking over the West?



posted on Jul, 11 2011 @ 11:21 AM
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I am from the UK and I assure you we are not "overrun with Muslims" or indeed under Sharia Law..

I have lived in Birmingham which has a very high concentration of Muslims and have worked and befriended many. It has it's no go areas, but so does London with the black population or Portsmouth's white population in areas is very violent.

Not once have I ever had any religious views, laws or beliefs pushed on me by a muslim, the same cannot be said for Christians.



posted on Jul, 11 2011 @ 11:21 AM
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Islam grants radical Muslims a mandate. It is a mandate to change the existing society into an Islamic society. This isn't about building a few mosques for the needs of Muslim congregations, or schools, or a few cultural centres. It is to make Islam supreme, and thus dominate every aspect of society. This is not only the desire of fundamentalists but, from their teaching, preaching and publications, would seem to be the desire of a large number of Muslims all over the world.



posted on Jul, 11 2011 @ 11:25 AM
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Originally posted by Soldier of God
Islam grants radical Muslims a mandate. It is a mandate to change the existing society into an Islamic society. This isn't about building a few mosques for the needs of Muslim congregations, or schools, or a few cultural centres. It is to make Islam supreme, and thus dominate every aspect of society. This is not only the desire of fundamentalists but, from their teaching, preaching and publications, would seem to be the desire of a large number of Muslims all over the world.


So you believe Muslims are taking over by building congregations, schools, cultural centre etc?? Does that really make sense to you, or is it just me?



posted on Jul, 11 2011 @ 11:29 AM
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Originally posted by confreak

Originally posted by Soldier of God
Islam grants radical Muslims a mandate. It is a mandate to change the existing society into an Islamic society. This isn't about building a few mosques for the needs of Muslim congregations, or schools, or a few cultural centres. It is to make Islam supreme, and thus dominate every aspect of society. This is not only the desire of fundamentalists but, from their teaching, preaching and publications, would seem to be the desire of a large number of Muslims all over the world.


So you believe Muslims are taking over by building congregations, schools, cultural centre etc?? Does that really make sense to you, or is it just me?


If you read what I wrote I said it is NOT about those things, but they would have you believe that they only want such things.



posted on Jul, 11 2011 @ 11:32 AM
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Originally posted by Soldier of God

If you read what I wrote I said it is NOT about those things, but they would have you believe that they only want such things.


I'm still not quiet getting you, and I know you don't get yourself either.

You are telling us that Muslim schools are not actually Muslim schools? Rather they are something which is used to take over the West?



posted on Jul, 11 2011 @ 11:34 AM
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Muslims are growing in numbers faster, what are you gonna do about it? Ban reproducing? Force them to only have one baby which I suggested through sarcasm in the Original Post? How does Muslims reproducing equate to Muslims taking over anyways?


It is simple: in democracy, numbers matter. Muslims multiplying => muslims taking over the west.




So what if they demand stuff, how does that equate to Muslims taking over? Every segment of the society has the right to demand stuff, and it is up to the government to decide whether to grant those demands or not, the government chosen by the people. So once again, how does that equate to Muslims taking over the West?


Muslims imposing their demands on others => muslims taking over the west.




Muslims praying outside over crowded Mosques, how does that equate to Muslims taking over the West?


They disregard laws are block streets with their numbers => muslims taking over the west.




Some Muslim youths approach a man and tells him you can't drink here, how does that equate to Muslims taking over?


They disregard laws and already practically took over that area => muslims taking over the west.




Do you even see how irrational and illogical you sound?


You are the illogical one. As for irrationality, the muslims may not take over the west, but the signs could certainly be interpreted as such. Your original post has in fact showed the opposite of what you intended to show.
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posted on Jul, 11 2011 @ 11:36 AM
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Originally posted by confreak

Originally posted by Soldier of God

If you read what I wrote I said it is NOT about those things, but they would have you believe that they only want such things.


I'm still not quiet getting you, and I know you don't get yourself either.

You are telling us that Muslim schools are not actually Muslim schools? Rather they are something which is used to take over the West?


Just because you don't understand plain english don't include me in your comment. Yes, I can tell you don't understand many things...



posted on Jul, 11 2011 @ 11:50 AM
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Once again, Muslims reproducing = Muslims taking over the West.. Do you see how irrational you sound? Everyone has the right to reproduce right? Including you??

Once again, Muslims making demands = Muslims taking over the West.. Do you see how irrational + illogical you sound? Everyone has the right to make demands, including you..

Once again, Muslims praying in the street because they can't fit in the mosque = Muslims taking over the West.. Do you see how irrational + illogical you sound? You have the permission to parade in the streets, and have the permission to make protests etc.. According to your logic only Muslims block an empty road for 5 minutes?? Do you see how much of a bigot you sound??

Once again, Muslims approaching a man and telling him drinking in this area is not allowed = Muslims taking over the West.. Do you see how irrational + illogical you sound? Every one has the right to approach someone and tell him you are not allowed to drink in public.

It seems people are not even ashamed of being a bigot anymore, they believe Muslims are taking over the West based on the most rediculouse excuses imaginable.

Take Over means " seize and take control without authority and possibly with force;".. How are Muslims taking over anything without authority? Are they in UK with guns? Tanks? Drones? Tell us, how are they taking over, by reproducing? How is that taking over? Reproducing is not taking over, because they have the right to reproduce..



posted on Jul, 11 2011 @ 12:35 PM
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Take Over means " seize and take control without authority and possibly with force;"


Take over means also seize or take control with authority, not just illegitimaly.

www.thefreedictionary.com...



Once again, Muslims reproducing = Muslims taking over the West.. Do you see how irrational you sound? Everyone has the right to reproduce right? Including you??


Generaly, yes. It is a take over, look at the definition. Also, when a nation recognizes that there is another culture increasing its numbers, they do have rights to implement various immigration and integration policies to ensure cultural hegemony or protect against some unwanted cultural elements.




Once again, Muslims making demands = Muslims taking over the West.. Do you see how irrational + illogical you sound? Everyone has the right to make demands, including you..


Look at the definition and see your error. It can mean exactly that. Also, I can make demands, that does not mean I should make them. Demands to impose shariah law will be met with hostility.




Once again, Muslims praying in the street because they can't fit in the mosque = Muslims taking over the West.. Do you see how irrational + illogical you sound? You have the permission to parade in the streets, and have the permission to make protests etc.. According to your logic only Muslims block an empty road for 5 minutes?? Do you see how much of a bigot you sound??


You are not being coherent here.




Once again, Muslims approaching a man and telling him drinking in this area is not allowed = Muslims taking over the West.. Do you see how irrational + illogical you sound? Every one has the right to approach someone and tell him you are not allowed to drink in public.


Was it against secular law? Or was it against shariah law only? If it is the first case, then it is acceptable, but adding this

throw it away or face Allah's wrath!""
is still some cause for concern.
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posted on Jul, 11 2011 @ 12:50 PM
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Originally posted by Maslo
when a nation recognizes that there is another culture increasing its numbers, they do have rights to implement various immigration and integration policies to ensure cultural hegemony or protect against some unwanted cultural elements.


Yes...yes...up with cultural purity!! And maybe we should be looking at a little more "lebensraum" while we are at it...

Now you are going to point out where this exactly is written, right? Some of us would like some proof....

Peace
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posted on Jul, 11 2011 @ 12:57 PM
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Well if you, as a country, were nice enough to take in people who want to escape from their crap countries, and they wanted to tell you you couldn't drink or your girl had to wear a burqa, you'd rightfully be a little pissed.



posted on Jul, 11 2011 @ 01:18 PM
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Originally posted by timi0000
Well if you, as a country, were nice enough to take in people who want to escape from their crap countries, and they wanted to tell you you couldn't drink or your girl had to wear a burqa, you'd rightfully be a little pissed.


Why? I constantly have people who think they can tell me what to do and how to do it. It's a free country....let it out!!.....it's not like I have to listen, right?

Peace



posted on Jul, 11 2011 @ 04:35 PM
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Originally posted by Soldier of God

Originally posted by mehforfun
i would asume they are idd coming to the west, but why? is it that their land has been taken over and occupied. i mean start a war in another country and i think that countries people should have the right to live in yours once you rebuild all the damges, and ofc bring back the dead. i mean you cant just come there and take crap and leave the country in rubble and acept the people will rebuild it.


Usually when the U.S. has a war, they do more rebuilding and infrastructure work than the country's leaders have in the last century...


Perhaps because they destroyed everything the countries leaders did in the last century. It could also be that after a war the U.S. essentially makes the country a satellite state. And would you be referring to Iraq when you say usually? Because we have a mixed record on our post war infrastructure work.

It is also interesting that we can't even get our own infrastructure right.

$2 Trillion needed

As far as Muslims taken over, it is just fear of things people do nut understand.

I always find the legislation banning sharia law laughable since America is under no threat of sharia law.

If we are going to ban sharia law, can we also ban the intrusion of christian 'morality' from our lives and laws?
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