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posted on Jul, 12 2011 @ 01:41 PM
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Originally posted by amaster
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It's also a possibility that this may just be a double exposure. I don't think there is anything "supernatural" about this.
edit on 7/11/2011 by amaster because: (no reason given)


i thought that initially; however i've never seen a double exposure looks so opaque. imho it's just as likely he astral-projected!




posted on Jul, 12 2011 @ 02:01 PM
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Originally posted by Time2Think
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Does anyone know the reason for Jeff's unexpected death? Please don't get upset at me for asking, if it's not a good question then don't bother to respond. I'm personally going through brain cancer right now and it drives me freaking nuts when people start asking me all kinds of inconsiderate questions.


He was being treated for pain due to a sciatica condition that he'd been dealing with since getting out of the Navy. The VA had him a variety of medication regimens, and had started him on a Fentanyl patch. There have been some problems with it over the years. www.aboutlawsuits.com... We don't know for sure that he's yet another victom of a patch failure, but the cause of death (sudden onset resperatory failure) is typical of a patch failure. We're waiting on the toxicology report, and I'm trying not to get royally pissed until I know for sure what actually killed him. The coroner is focusing on that patch though, at this stage of things.



posted on Jul, 12 2011 @ 02:07 PM
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Originally posted by maceov
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Okay, so Brion was there in spirit, because the love of his life was marrying someone else. THAT, I can accept and appreciate. He may have had an out of body experience of some kind, and only his soul was there...


This as her brother's wedding. She'd already been married to Frank for a half dozen years or better by then. They (Brion and Cindy) hadn't even seen each other since 1977 (the photo was 1985). Just to clear that up.


BUT what nobody else is mentioning, at least to my knowledge, as I've not read through EVERY reply, however rude and obtuse as some of them seem to be, is the GLOWING ANGELIC BEING standing BETWEEN the two ladies in the photograph. The wings are jutting out the back, and there is a clear head and body standing there.

Perhaps that angelic being transported Brion's spirit to the event somehow. With God, ALL THINGS ARE POSSIBLE!


I have a real problem with that idea. Mainly because the shining thing seems more like a specific shape than like a representation of anything (like an angel) else. The curves, lines and angles are too clearly defined. I have no idea what it is, and no one can recall anything even remotely resembling something like that in te room. It was a simple, no-frills, keg and cash-bar reception at the VFW. No light show or special effects involved.



posted on Jul, 12 2011 @ 02:15 PM
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Originally posted by amaster

Finally, if this is a picture of Cindy and her sister at their brother's (John's) wedding to which Jeff was the best man, then why did Jeff have this picture? Wouldn't John have it. Why would Jeff have an old picture of his brother's wife. You said John's got the negatives, so why did he give this picture to Jeff? If he made a duplicate, he would have given it to Brion or Cindy instead. Something isn't adding up.


Jeff had my late mother's Jr. High School report cards, so who knows why he had anything that he had. We didnt even know that most of tis stuff even existed. Jeff was the best man, and so he had several photos from that day. Maybe he noticed the weirdness of that photo himself and took it because of that, and then forgot about having it. I haven't got a lot of answers. I'm the one asking questions.


Regardless, if this is true, and the negative does exist and Brion is shown in it, then case closed. He was there.


I'm with you on that, but the other people we've showed this to who were there disagree with us. I wasn't there, so I can't say one way or the other, although I do have my reasons for doubting that Brion would've been welcome at the party. The negative was found last night, and it backs up the contents of the photo. That's all I have on that.



posted on Jul, 12 2011 @ 02:18 PM
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Did anyone mention Doppleganger yet? They always fascinate me and could account for the photo.



posted on Jul, 12 2011 @ 02:19 PM
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Originally posted by DancingEagle
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Perhaps this could explain your mysterious photograph - ever heard of Ted Serios's "Thoughtographs?"

en.wikipedia.org...

I saw this photo show at; The Albin O. Kuhn Library Gallery presents Psychic Projections/Photographic Impressions: Paranormal Photographs from the Jule Eisenbud Collection on Ted Serios. For several years in the 1960s psychiatrist Dr. Jule Eisenbud, a faculty member at the University of Denver, conducted experiments with Ted Serios, a Chicago man who possessed an apparent ability to place images from his mind onto Polaroid material using psychic energy. Over the course of these experimental sessions Serios produced a vast body of photographs, or “thoughtographs,” that continue to baffle researchers and critics to this day.

Pretty amazing stuff.
edit on 12-7-2011 by DancingEagle because: Left out Ted's name in the intro.


I might hold off on passing this on. I'm not looking forward to Brion suddenly believing that he's got some psychic gifts. He's a Sr VP with a large high-tech corporation and it's tough enough to deal with him already. I may sandbag this suggestion for a bit, and look into it on my own.



posted on Jul, 12 2011 @ 02:29 PM
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Originally posted by Nola213

But anyways, great thread. I usually don't buy any doppleganger, astral projection, or paranormal stuff, but this photo and the look on Brions face it all just seems troubling when you first look at it, before even hearing the details..., something about it seems off. This one has me stumped.


The Doppelganger notion clashes with my own thoughts on reality too, but I'm at a loss to explain any of this. Ecven that light seems like it just plain doesn't make sense - not even as a spectral anomaly. It just doesn't make any sense, and yet, there it is (and on the negative as well, according to John, Brion and Cindy, who looked at it last night)


By the way, sorry to hear about the loss of your brother.


The indications are that he was surprised by it, and didn't suffer. Still, I'm hoping it wasn't that Fentanyl patch. That'll just get me up to me *ss in litigation, and I have a lot of other things to get done. I hate corporate screw-ups, and this one - if it's a patch failure - killed my brother. Just thinking about it drains all the energy out of me.



posted on Jul, 12 2011 @ 02:32 PM
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Originally posted by glowie
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This post has really amazed me and thank you for the mystery. One question please and its probably not the time to ask your brother but do you know if he was under severe stress or contemplating doing himself harm? Was he aware of this wedding and the exact time of the reception? This is very freaky and you do sound very genuine. Good luck with your efforts and condolences to you and your family on the loss of your brother


Brion knew of the wedding, and Jeff was John's best man, so I'm sure there was a some amount of discussion between the two of them about the specifics. I wasn't really focusing on it at the time. I had a lot of other things going on that had nothing to do with my hometown, so I wasn't privy to any of what they discussed. I'm just reasonably assuming that Brion would've known all the details beforehand.



posted on Jul, 12 2011 @ 02:34 PM
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Ok, from what I understand is that your brother had a crush on the gal in the photo but her then boyfriend was a bit of a loony and prone to violence so your brother couldn't (or rather, shouldn't) be around her or him. Then you also say that your brother wasn't even in that town during the time of this photo. I fully believe what your saying, the look on your brothers face as well kinda stands out to me.

I'm not one that believes in astral projection and the likes, but perhaps that's exactly what was going on here? He does look a bit out of place.

I'm also sorry to hear about your loss, it's never easy to lose someone close to you.



posted on Jul, 12 2011 @ 02:39 PM
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Originally posted by Frontkjemper
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Ok, from what I understand is that your brother had a crush on the gal in the photo but her then boyfriend was a bit of a loony and prone to violence so your brother couldn't (or rather, shouldn't) be around her or him. Then you also say that your brother wasn't even in that town during the time of this photo. I fully believe what your saying, the look on your brothers face as well kinda stands out to me.

I'm not one that believes in astral projection and the likes, but perhaps that's exactly what was going on here? He does look a bit out of place.

I'm also sorry to hear about your loss, it's never easy to lose someone close to you.


Brion and Cindy would've gotten maried if he hadn't joined the military and lost her to Frank's constant presence while he was overseas. It was pretty traumatic, I would imagine, even though Brion toughed it out and moved on with his life after the severe ramifications of charging back in to win her back became extremely obvious to everyone involved. Frank's not looney. He's dangerous. Even now, it's pretty treacherous. We had an armed police detail at Jeff's funeral due to the potential for weird activity. I grew up in a brutal little area.
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posted on Jul, 12 2011 @ 02:46 PM
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I know the flag in the background has been mentioned before in this thread but I am unsure if it is a poster of a flag or a real cloth flag. It appears to be cloth , which is strange because there are what seems to be odd reflections on it that would make no sense if it was a cloth flag.



posted on Jul, 12 2011 @ 02:56 PM
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The odd reflections you see on the flag are from cigarette smoke. If you notice, Cindy is holding one in her hand as she waves to the camera.



posted on Jul, 12 2011 @ 02:56 PM
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Doppelganger, astral projection, parallel universe, ect... it is most likely one of these things for sure! Something paranormal...Given the strong attachment between the two people. Problem is you may never really know which one it was. You have to chalk it up to the unexplained, as the unexplained happens all the time.We can never fully know why these things happen but they just do, that is a fact! I know this does not really help but...that is just the way it is... something weird happen and you will be left scratching your head. I have had my share of the weird and strange... things that happen, where I am left with the " how the heck did that happen" pretty annoying not to have the answers!!!!
Great post!!! Thank you for sharing and showing us one more piece of evidence of our strange and wonderful universe.
I do not think this will hurt or affect your brother, other then the fact of him being confused for a very long time.



posted on Jul, 12 2011 @ 03:28 PM
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I'm assuming that the flag had a plastic covering over it. Super cheesy, but pretty common back then.



posted on Jul, 12 2011 @ 03:31 PM
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I'm wondering if anyone's ever run into something like this - a living person showing up in a photo hundreds of miles away from where they were at the time.


Sort of. I have a short (around two minutes long) audio recording of a conversation between my mother and her sister, recorded at a place and a time when they most definitely were NOT together.

The conversation itself is nothing special; the only thing that makes it "special" is the sheer impossibility of that conversation taking place where it did and when it did, in the first place. There is no possibility of confusion.
More details would be a waste of time, as a person is either going to believe it or not, much like in your case.
I am still trying to crack this puzzle myself.

In your case, I would agree with Kacou's suggestion, as it is the only alternative suggestion that makes sense.
It was either that or.... something we as a civlization still have no idea about.


P.S. The light between the women is clearly just that: light shining from another room or from outside.




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posted on Jul, 12 2011 @ 03:35 PM
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*Update* I just got a call that there were several photos found that put the reception's band under that plastic covered flag (to the right of the center of this shot just a little). At this point in the investigation, the time of the photo itself has been established as being just as the hall was being shut down for the night. I guess that explains Cindy's bleary look. The band had torn down and packed off, and this was a good-night wave from her to whomever was taking the photo. Kind of places the time as being deep into the evening.

Just a new bit of information.
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posted on Jul, 12 2011 @ 03:53 PM
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Cool picture great mystery.....i have a quick question.

At the time the picture was took, was Cindy and her dangerous husband having major issues?

I can only think that if she was with a dangerous man and having issues with him at that time, that your brother is somehow connected to her on a different level, and maybe like her guardian angel type thing. and some part of him has been there for her all along.

Your brother's expression does look like one of concern, but not for himself, IMO anyway.

very interesting none the less great read star and flag for you.



posted on Jul, 12 2011 @ 04:08 PM
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Great movie but "ramtha" kinda freaks me out



posted on Jul, 12 2011 @ 04:25 PM
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If you look at the waving girl and look at the space under her arm and armpit you'll see a leg? is that suppose to be the mans leg? It looks very fake, and the proportions aren't right...somethings...off.



posted on Jul, 12 2011 @ 04:35 PM
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Originally posted by NorEaster

Originally posted by Trueman
The ghostly face on the right of the flag looks like smiling for the photo too. What about the camera used, do you have it now?

Do your brother recognized the clothes his image wears in the photo ?


Hell, I recognize the shirt he's wearing. He and I spent a lot of time working together on a variety of projects during that period, and that shirt was a go-to standard. That and a t-shirt most of the time. Most guys have a favorite flannel. That blue one was his favorite for years.


Amazing, that means is not another person. As I wrote in my second post of your thread, this could be case of bilocation.





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