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The Coming War With China: Evidence!

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posted on Jul, 10 2011 @ 03:30 PM
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Here is the data on why war with China may be inevitable. The You tube videos are excerpts of a 4 hour presentation on all the facts. I saw the guy speak in my area this weekend and he condensed things into a about an hour and a half. I was spell bound and did not realize how much evidence there is to back this up and came away realizing I need to do something. So first I am trying to get the word out. This is something all Americans need to know and understand this is urgent. We can no longer afford to be apathetic and dismissive.

The Chinese and Russians have told us what their plan is and why they want to do it. But apparently few are taking them seriously. With the missile they fired on the west coast recently and one of their subs popping up in our war games which got there undetected proves we are very vulnerable. They have bought or stolen all our technology and Russia's and have improved on it. There is evidence they are farther along then us on some of it leaving us defenseless on some of it. Please take the time to watch these videos before commenting.


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Here is some excerpts of a speech their senior General gave a few years back. This is the guy who ordered the massacre of Tienanmen Square:


General Chi Haotion: Would the United States allow us to go out to gain new living space? First, if the United States is firm in blocking us, it is hard for us to do anything significant to Taiwan and some other countries! Second, even if we could snatch some land from Taiwan, Vietnam, India, or even Japan, how much more living space can we get? Very trivial! Only countries like the United States, Canada and Australia have the vast land to serve our need for mass colonization.
 
Therefore, solving the 'issue of America' is the key to solving all other issues. First, this makes it possible for us to have many people migrate there and even establish another Chinaunder the same leadership of the CCP. America was originally discovered by the ancestors of the yellow race, but Columbus gave credit to the White race. We the descendants of the Chinese nation are ENTITLED to the possession of the land!


Here he lays out how they want America and the rest of the world and they want to kill two thirds of Americans and keep one third to serve them and how they will do it.


It is historical destiny that China and United States will come into unavoidable confrontation on a narrow path and fight. In the long run, the relationship of China and the United States is one of a life-and-death struggle. Of course, right now it is not the time to openly break up with them yet. Our reform and opening to the outside world still rely on their capital and technology. We still need America. Therefore, we must do everything we can to promote our relationship with America, learn from America in all aspects and use America as an example to reconstruct our country. Only by using special means to 'clean up' America will we be able to lead the Chinese people there. Only by using non-destructive weapons that can kill many people will we be able to reserve America for ourselves.


Biological and chemical weapons will be their main thrust and also EMP They want to leave infrastructure intact as much as possible


There has been rapid development of modern biological technology, and new bio weapons have been invented one after another. Of course we have not been idle; in the past years we have seized the opportunity to master weapons of this kind. We are capable of achieving our purpose of 'cleaning up' America all of a sudden. When Comrade Xiaoping was still with us, the Party Central Committee had the perspicacity to make the right decision not to develop aircraft carrier groups and focused instead on developing lethal weapons that can eliminate mass populations of the enemy country. Biological weapons are unprecedented in their ruthlessness, but if the Americans do not die then the Chinese have to die. If the Chinese people are strapped to the present land, a total societal collapse is bound to take place.



The last problem I want to talk about is of firmly seizing the preparations for military battle. The central committee believes, as long as we resolve the United States problem at one blow, our domestic problems will all be readily solved. Therefore, our military battle preparation appears to aim at Taiwan, but in fact is aimed at the United States, and the preparation is far beyond the scope of attacking aircraft carriers or satellites. Marxism pointed out that violence is the midwife for the birth of the new society. Therefore war is the midwife for the birth of China's century."


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I have always said it would be logistically impossible for China or any other nation to invade the USA and sustain any kind of campaign for any length of time however the "free/foreign trade zones in all 50 states are the perfect Trojan horse to cache supplies weapons and fighting men under the guise of manufacturing etc. China states one of their strategies is to be friends with us until they are ready to strike. The just unloaded 97% of our treasury bonds so they have no more real stake there financially. Here is a thread sounding the alarm on these Chinese trade zones on all 50 states. Some ridiculed it however these videos provide the evidence. www.abovetopsecret.com...

Please watch the videos everything is in place for them. One big obstacle however is the American people are heavily armed. But if they take out our Grid with an EMP and release biological weapons etc. then wait a little they figure they can walk in and just mop up with little resistance as the people will be sick, dead & dying, without electricity, starving, and in chaos. I know it sounds crazy but you'll see what they have been doing the last 30 years and even before that, however especially in the last ten years they have really ramped up their military capabilities and technology. This is not a drill folks this this is the real deal!

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posted on Jul, 10 2011 @ 03:33 PM
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I think they have already won...

They own a good part of the USA...

We're screwed....



posted on Jul, 10 2011 @ 03:35 PM
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3/4 of Australia is actually baron and unliveable and in many parts you won't survive even afew days out there in the heat during the summer unless you have the skills of the Aboriginals.


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posted on Jul, 10 2011 @ 03:38 PM
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Originally posted by Zaanny
I think they have already won...

They own a good part of the USA...

We're screwed....


We have got to overcome the defeatist attitude. They don't own anything it was all done with funny money by our politicians and the Federal reserve who have no authority or right to sale our lands etc to them or anyone else. Its time to wake and rise up and decide what kind of world we will leave our children and grandchildren!



posted on Jul, 10 2011 @ 03:40 PM
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Re biolgical, chemical, nuclear and space weaponry.....the USA have the biggest of them all and could wipe out China within 20 minutes to half an hour.

Don't be so paranoid of the Chinese or Russians. What they have together, the USA has 10 fold.



posted on Jul, 10 2011 @ 03:45 PM
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Originally posted by bluemirage5
Re biolgical, chemical, nuclear and space weaponry.....the USA have the biggest of them all and could wipe out China within 20 minutes to half an hour.

Don't be so paranoid of the Chinese or Russians. What they have together, the USA has 10 fold.


So you think, It's not paranoia it is hard evidence! Watch the videos and see the evidence! Folks you cannot afford to dismiss this without looking at the facts!
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posted on Jul, 10 2011 @ 03:45 PM
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Thanks for posting, I have not the time at present to watch the vids.
However, The off coast missile was not proven to be a missile.
There were some decent explanations at the time, that coincided with
airplane in the same spot.
It was very possible that the rocket exhaust was just a contrail filmed at
an usual angle, as well as the contrail being in an odd position.

The other thing i don't agree with you about , is why would China
want to war with the USA, and wipe out all the assets that in owns there.
That would just be plain stupid.

If the United states was attacked in earnest, the attackers would be destroyed
by the following, whether the Chinese or the Russians got their shot in first or not
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The Russians and the Chinese would not be able to take out all the United States
land based ICBM's on a first strike.

Why .. They don't have the capability, or the surprise advantage. Some, if not all the enemy missiles would be detected by the US.

The United States and it's Allies would launch their Trident forces from submarines.
This is a fail safe. The subs fire if they hear nothing from the command.

The result , everybody loses.

The Chinese will never attack the United States
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posted on Jul, 10 2011 @ 03:56 PM
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They aren't talking about nukes, they are talking about biological weapons, which could be introduced without anyone taking responsibility. Heck, all they need to do is blame it on terrorists.



posted on Jul, 10 2011 @ 03:59 PM
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So he thinks that the Chinese and or the Russians would be able to take out the United States
with Bio weapons.

What do you think would happen??

Clue ........... Their Mushroom shaped

Or do you think that they would be able to kill the entire US population and Armed
forces, before they could retaliate with the above mushroom shaped bombs.

It's a fallacy, never going to happen.
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posted on Jul, 10 2011 @ 04:05 PM
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Thanks for posting, I have not the time at present to watch the vids.
However, The off coast missile was not proven to be a missile.
There were some decent explanations at the time, that coincided with
airplane in the same spot.
It was very possible that the rocket exhaust was just a contrail filmed at
an usual angle, as well as the contrail being in an odd position.


Thanks for your courteous response. I read all the explanations and the contrail theory is the least plausible IMO. I'd say the evidence points to a missile. Still for sake of argument even if it wasn't a Chinese test there is plenty of other evidence of Chinas military capability and technology.


The other thing i don't agree with you about , is why would China
want to war with the USA, and wipe out all the assets that in owns there.
That would just be plain stupid.


I would have agreed with you a few days ago until I saw the presentation Live. However look at it this way they want to "take possessions of their assets" as they believe they cannot sustain their population in Asia and want to expand to America first and the rest of the world. They believe America is rightfully thiers the the American Indians our thier progeny etc. etc.


If the United stated was attacked in earnest, the attackers would be destroyed
by the following, whether the Chinese or the Russians got their shot in first


This is why you need to watch the video and read the General's comments. They have a plan on how to do this take our navy out quickly and our army capabilities. etc. And it is plausible. They have a couple of means of getting nukes and missles off without detection etc.


The Russians and the Chinese would not be able to take out all the United States
land based ICBM's on a first strike.


The problem is we and you are still thinking post world war II strategies and as I said I would have agreed with you just a few days ago. It takes a lot to get may attention on this sort of thing I was was alarmed for the first time in years when I saw the evidence compiled in this mans presentation. The the videos I posted only touch on a few main but salient points however they are enough.


Why .. They don't have enough of them , or the surprise advantage. Some if not all would be detected by the US.


Oh yes they do however they only need an EMP to take out our grid crippling us. They do not want an nuclear exchange they want to keep infrastructure intact as much as possible. They will not do a conventional nuclear strike.


The United States and it's Allies would launch their Trident forces from their submarines.
This is a fail safe. The subs fire if they hear nothing from the command.

The result , everybody loses.

The Chinese will never attack the United States


As I said they have a plan and they have said their goal is to take over the USA. We need to take them seriously. Watch the videos ASAP!


So he thinks that the Chinese and or the Russians would be able to take out the United States
with Bio weapons.

What do you think would happen??

Clue ........... Their Mushroom shaped

Or do you think that they would be able to kill the entire US population and Armed
forces, before they could retaliate with the above mushroom shaped bombs.

It's a fallacy, never going to happen.


How would they know it was Chinese? They would blame it on terrorist. Please look at the facts before just claming its a fallacy. This is why I said watch the videos. The evidence is there and its and its plausible. If you watch then you can argue specific points if you disagree. Right now you don't have all the facts presented in the videos.
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posted on Jul, 10 2011 @ 04:08 PM
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Well researched OP. Frightening, but important. I do believe that we need to be carefully watching the Eastern Powers. Also, the recent determination that cyber attacks would count basically as war seemed rather like the U.S. announcing its intent toward China as well. I recognize that there was a bit of politcal fluffery that served to backpeddle what the determination actually said, but, fluffery aside it's out there now. The economics increasingly look like a war with China may very well be inevitable just from our end. Factoring in their issues apart from our debt is sobering indeed.


S&F
*I do know that fluffery isn't a word. I have just decided that it should be!*



posted on Jul, 10 2011 @ 04:09 PM
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thanks for your courteous response too.

I will watch the vid tomorrow night if i get time,,and come back to you
then.

until then .............

peace


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posted on Jul, 10 2011 @ 04:10 PM
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Is anyone surprised that free market trade agreements has resulted in communist China rising as a world power?

We have shipped our manufacturing and our technology to China to make a few quick bucks for the bankers who now run our country, and have no loyalty what so ever to the people of the U.S..

Clearly by the speech given by the Chinese general, we are playing by two sets of rules. They have no qualms about racism, aggression, and conquest. They aren't going to be fair, they aren't going to support multiculturalism. We are foolish not to recognize this and act accordingly.

International Corporations, even the ones headquartered in the U.S. have no loyalty to the people of the U.S.. All indication is that the people who control the highest levels of finance and banking in the U.S. would rather the people of the U.S. be turned into slaves, and our rights taken away from us.

Pursuit of free market economics, which is another form of communism, is succeeding in destroying our nation, stripping us of our rights, undermining our military viability, and threatening our very way of life.

More and more it is becoming clear that our biggest enemies are the people who control our banks and investment industry. They seem intent on crushing us as a nation, and putting out the light of freedom and opportunity for all.



posted on Jul, 10 2011 @ 04:14 PM
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Originally posted by rigel4
thanks for your courteous response too.

I will watch the vid tomorrow night if i get time,,and come back to you
then.

until then .............

peace


Cool and thank you!



posted on Jul, 10 2011 @ 04:18 PM
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I couldn't agree more and wish that everyone could understand the truths that you just stated. We need to stop hating ourselves, stop believing the lies, and stop worrying about everybody else. Because they aren't staying up at night thinking about to keep US fed and improve OUR lives. This country needs to start looking out for its own interests and international corporations have a conflict of interest there.



posted on Jul, 10 2011 @ 04:18 PM
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Once again, not if we didn't know who was responsible.

With all the massive amounts of goods China ships into the U.S., how hard would it be to introduce some form of stealth bio weapon?

Ever watch the original Batman movie with Jack Nicholson as the Joker?

en.wikipedia.org...(1989_film)


The Joker holds the city at his mercy by chemically altering everyday hygiene products, causing those using a certain combination of products to laugh to death — leaving them with a post-mortem grin resembling his own.



posted on Jul, 10 2011 @ 04:18 PM
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The Head of the PLA has stated many times that he sees war with the United States as inevitable. The thing is, people keep denying it or believing it.

China will use everything at its disposal to wipe out any resistance with a first strike. They may strike someplace like San Diego San Francisco and Seattle with Chemical weapons so they can use the seaports later, while nuking Los Angeles.

They can get these weapons off shore with no problem using container ships and Subs.

Deeper targets will be Chem-Bio weapons, with maybe a nuke for DC, New York and Atlanta.

Chemical weapons dissipate relatively quickly with time, while Bio weapons can get out of control, though they may have a vaccine against it.

They realize that if they launch land based systems, that the world (Not just the U.S.) will see what is happening and launch a retaliatory strike.

It would quite the gamble for the Chinese to attack via a ground force though as there is a whole lot of water to cross first and then there are the logistical problems associated with keeping their forces sustained.

I see a war between India and China first before they attack the U.S..



posted on Jul, 10 2011 @ 04:19 PM
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There are too many cuts in the video where points are lost; is there anywhere we can get video of the full presentation?



posted on Jul, 10 2011 @ 04:21 PM
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China simply doesn't have the capacity to get troops and supply's here to sustain a war on American soil. Anything they try to send would be sitting on the bottom of the ocean in pieces.

If their reason is only to aquire more land than they would just head over to Russia that has plenty of open living space and plenty of resources including oil.



posted on Jul, 10 2011 @ 04:23 PM
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I have to agree, China doesn't want to start a war with us. They want our money to get destroyed, and to invade the world's markets, but not a war with the Untied States.

As much as I don't like this country, we are still the superpower.





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