BBC Spreading Disinformation On Libyan Rebels As Common Civilians, page 1

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Topic started on 10-7-2011 @ 08:58 AM by Agent_USA_Supporter

BBC and CNN since the started of the manufactured libyan revolution, i have noticed them, withholding the names of these supposed rebels and locations for which and where BBC and CNN have taken the footage's or the supposed claims made in there every released news article.

As you will noticed in this bbc article which BBC copied and translated it as there own article as you will see, not sure of what language is the second link based on.

Accompanied by a fighter by the name of Ali, we drove several kilometres beyond the entrenched positions that had, for the past month and a half, constituted the front line west of Misrata.

As you see here BBC is losing there credibility as a news organization by faking, altering or even withholding the real names of the supposed rebel fighters, since most if not all of the east libyan fighters are male isnt strange for BBC to fake a name for the rebel giving him Ali? Ali in Arabic is for a girl, it can be also used as nickname, but for a male to have name Ali thats very rare.

Lets continue shall we?

This part is just to hard to buy or even believe, but this what the mainstream news networks do they write articles, copy articles and translate them as there own source.

Abu Baker, a 22-year-old fighter wearing flip-flops and an Argentina football shirt

Again cover name dont even think for a minute thats his real name, if you type his name into google he doesn't even exist, his name as a cover is that of the companion.

As explained in this link by wikipedia if you dont like wikpe google the name on some other site,
Abu Bakar The Prophet

As you saw in the artlice these rebels want to kill Gaddafi

"Everyone here has only one thing on his mind," he said. "If we kill him (Gaddafi) we win. And if we die, we go to heaven."

"If we kill him (Gaddafi) we win.

So these terrorists think by killing him they will win and then libya becomes a puppet state to america and britian, i guess this quote proves they aren't ordinary civilians because they are hired western terrorists in my view, as always if Gaddafi really did horrible which i doubt all people deserve a fair trail, just like saddam had one.

These men are not soldiers. They are students and shopkeepers, accountants and farmers. Their lack of military expertise has cost time and lives. But their commander, Muftah Mohammed, told us morale was high.

students and shopkeepers, accountants and farmers? so the terrorists claim they aren't soldiers but simple students and shopkeepers, accountants and farmers? that makes it good for a

only a western fool would be believe something like this.

Simple students and shopkeepers, accountants and farmers simply cant get just unpacked and unopened new weaponry from NATO, and if you ask me, the rebels are also hired paid mercenaries.

Well there you have it westerns so how come you should care? because the manufactured revolutions in the middle east were designed to make the oil profits rise and therefore we have then are forced to pay more at the gas stations, if these revolutions were really real, how come there is no revoultions happening in the Saudi Kingdom yet?

Oh yes it because they have Oil and if there is a revolution there the Saudi Kingdom will punish the entire western countries if they knew that there's was a revolution happening in there own soil.

All western news networks are Propagandists for the elites and there agenda but you think americans and others will ever realize that?

As for the BBC News Source, heres the news link where they stole or copied the story from.

BBC News Source

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reply posted on 10-7-2011 @ 09:32 AM by freakshowfatty

i noticed it last night on both Fox and CNN calling the rebels something new the moniker "civilian" I think that it validates the reason we're there it programming to make us want to support them. and it was subtle too

I've wondered since this thing started what would Washington do if 1million of us took up arms? Would they fire on 'civilians" ? Well I guess Kent State is the answer, but if Syria is next so is Russia...

reply posted on 10-7-2011 @ 09:39 AM by Mike_A

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Why does your “BBC News source” link send me to www.vnmedia.vn?

As you see here BBC is losing there credibility as a news organization by faking, altering or even withholding the real names of the supposed rebel fighters, since most if not all of the east libyan fighters are male isnt strange for BBC to fake a name for the rebel giving him Ali? Ali in Arabic is for a girl, it can be also used as nickname, but for a male to have name Ali thats very rare.

Is it?

en.wikipedia.org...(name)

Again cover name dont even think for a minute thats his real name

Maybe, maybe not, perhaps they’re protecting their sources; but what reason do you actually have to say that it’s not?

if you type his name into google he doesn't even exist

So Google has a record of every person in existence does it?

his name as a cover is that of the companion.

As explained in this link by wikipedia if you dont like wikpe google the name on some other site,
Abu Bakar The Prophet

I used to know someone called Mohammed but since that was the name of a prophet then clearly he must not have been real.

Never considered the possibility that he was named after the prophet?

As you saw in the artlice these rebels want to kill Gaddafi

So?

So these terrorists think by killing him they will win and then libya becomes a puppet state to america and britian, i guess this quote proves they aren't ordinary civilians because they are hired western terrorists in my view

Sorry you’ve lost me with that logic. Because they want to kill Gaddafi then this proves they’re hired western terrorists in your view.

Personally I think it proves that they don’t like Gaddafi all that much and very little else.

students and shopkeepers, accountants and farmers? so the terrorists claim they aren't soldiers but simple students and shopkeepers, accountants and farmers? that makes it good for a only a western fool would be believe something like this.

Why? Are you suggesting that ordinary people have never taken up arms?

Simple students and shopkeepers, accountants and farmers simply cant get just unpacked and unopened new weaponry from NATO

Why?

Also, no one has ever hidden the fact that there are a lot of ex Libyan military among the rebels.

Well there you have it westerns so how come you should care? because the manufactured revolutions in the middle east were designed to make the oil profits rise and therefore we have then are forced to pay more at the gas stations, if these revolutions were really real, how come there is no revoultions happening in the Saudi Kingdom yet?

Oh yes it because they have Oil and if there is a revolution there the Saudi Kingdom will punish the entire western countries if they knew that there's was a revolution happening in there own soil.

Eh? So they’re attacking Libya to drive up oil prices but they won’t attack Saudi Arabia because they’ve got oil?

reply posted on 10-7-2011 @ 10:14 AM by Agent_USA_Supporter

reply to post by Mike_A

Since you didn't understand me or even bothered of reading the entire the thread, I was saying thats where BBC copied the news source from.

Sounds like you support the east Libyan terrorists, as for me proving you they are terrorists, i am not going to make a 100 threads on that issue, some already discussed about that

Eh? So they’re attacking Libya to drive up oil prices but they won’t attack Saudi Arabia because they’ve got oil?

Nice way of insulting me by pretending you dont understand me and yes that was the point, if Saudi Arabia was hit with the same manufactured uprising they would punish the western countries with higher gas prices, not because of the uprising but in fear.

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reply posted on 10-7-2011 @ 10:18 AM by IamJustanAmerican

A pseudonym (literally, "false name") is a name that a person (or, sometimes, a group) assumes for a particular purpose and that differs from his or her original orthonym (or 'true name')

It has been commonly used for hundreds of years.

Stalin's name was not that.

What exactly do you want the BBC to do?

Ask for a birth certificate?

A person tells you their name you have to take it on face value.

Am I suppose to believe that your screen name on ATS is your real name?

It is not important to the story,the real story that is not being told is that Gaddafi is paying mercenaries to fight this rebellion because his own military can not be trusted.

While the Peon's of this planet are enduring hardships and struggle just to survive those with power,influence and money are increasing all it.

The people like all that rebel are just fighting for freedom.

Freedom is another word when there is nothing left to lose.

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reply posted on 10-7-2011 @ 10:30 AM by Agent_USA_Supporter

reply to post by Mike_A

, no one has ever hidden the fact that there are a lot of ex Libyan military among the rebels.

Ah yes those supposed Ex libyans with the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group which is an as an affiliate of al-Qaeda, that would make it quite obvious, now wouldn't it?

i saw one news article stating they are still present and very much active.

Why? Are you suggesting that ordinary people have never taken up arms?

Why no, of course not but these people in libya aren't ordinary people as you claim they are to be, since with CIA agents running the show along with hired western paid mercenaries.

In one of the videos i have seen i have seen mercenaries carrying there companies Logo T shirt on, now i wonder why would ordinary libyans be wearing a private military contractors company T Shirt in combat? that kind of makes you wonder.

I already stated these Libyans aren't ordinary, not to mention how these rebels rallying on Franch, Britain America.

reply posted on 10-7-2011 @ 10:33 AM by Agent_USA_Supporter

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The people like all that rebel are just fighting for freedom.

what freedom disnfo agent? the freedom for libya to be a puppet state for america and britian?

Fighting for the corporations who are giving them weapons in return for there oil and water? and in return to have John McCain and John Kerry open the stock markets?

Is that kind of freedom you want them to have? dont make me laugh other people on here are already seeing whats really going on in libya, rather then believing the lies, which you are believing heres a quote from that thread and a well excellent points and reasoning.

Before the chaos erupted, Libya had a lower incarceration rate than the Czech republic. It ranked 61st. Libya had the lowest infant mortality rate of all of Africa. Libya had the highest life expectancy of all of Africa.

Less than 5% of the population was undernourished. In response to the rising food prices around the world, the government of Libya abolished ALL taxes on food.People in Libya were rich. Libya had the highest gross domestic product (GDP) at purchasing power parity (PPP) per capita of all of Africa. The government took care to ensure that everyone in the country shared in the wealth. Libya had the highest Human Development Index of any country on the continent. The wealth was distributed equally. In Libya, a lower percentage of people lived below the poverty line than in the Netherlands.

How does Libya get so rich? The answer is oil. The country has a lot of oil, and does not allow foreign corporations to steal the resources while the population starves, unlike countries like Nigeria, a country that is basically run by Shell. Like any country, Libya suffers from a government with corrupt bureaucrats that try to gain a bigger portion of the pie at the cost of everyone else. In response to this, Kadaffi called for the oil revenue to be distributed directly to the people, because in his opinion, the government was failing the people.

However, unlike the article claims, Kadaffi is not the president of Libya. In fact he holds no official position in the government. This is the big mistake that people make. They claim that Kadaffi rules over Libya when in fact he doesn't, his position is more or less ceremonial. He should be compared to a founding father.

The true leader of Libya is an indirectly elected prime-minister. The current prime-minister is Baghdadi Mahmudi. Calling Khadaffi the leader of Libya is comparable to calling Akihito the leader of Japan. Contrary to what your media is sketching, opinions in Libya vary. Some people support Gadaffi but want Mahmudi out. Others want both out. Many just want to live their life in peace. However, effort is taken to sketch the appearance of a popular revolt against the supposed leader of Libya, Gadaffi, when in fact he is just the architect of Libya's current political system, a mixture of pan-Arabism, socialism, and Islamic government.

Are the protesters in Libya comparable to the protesters in Egypt and Tunisia? Not at all. The governments reaction is more violent, and obviously excessive violence is being used. However let us look for a moment at the actions of the protesters. The building of the the general people's congress, the parliament of Libya, was put on fire by angry protestors. This is comparable to protesters putting the United States Capitol on fire. Do you think that for even a moment the US government would sit idly by as protesters put the US capitol on fire?

Great Britain funded an Al Qaeda cell in Libya, in an attempt to assassinate Gadaffi. The main opposition group in Libya now is the National Front for the Salvation of Libya. This opposition group is being funded by Saudi Arabia, the CIA, and French Intelligence. This group unified itself with other opposition groups, to become the National Conference for the Libyan Opposition. It was this organization that called for the "Day of Rage" that plunged Libya into chaos on February 17 of this year.

It did this in Benghazi, a conservative city that has always been opposed to Gadaffi's rule. It should be noted that the National Front for the Salvation of Libya is well armed. In 1996 the group tried to unleash a revolution in the eastern part of Libya before. It used the Libyan National Army, the armed division of the NFSL to begin this failed uprising.

Why is the United States so opposed to Gadaffi? He is the main threat to US hegemony in Africa, because he attempts to unite the continent against the United States. This concept is called the United States of Africa. In fact, Gadaffi holds all sorts of ideas that are contrary to US interests. The man blames the United States government for the creation of HIV. He claims that Israel is behind the assasination of Martin Luther King and president John. F. Kennedy. He says that the 9/11 hijackers were trained in the US. He also urged Libyans to donate blood to Americans after 9/11. Khadaffi is also the last of a generation of moderate socialist pan-Arab revolutionaries that is still in power, after Nasser and Hussein have been eliminated, and Syria has aligned itself with Iran.The United States and Israel however have no interest in a strong Arab world. In fact it seems that elementary to the plan is bringing Libya to its knees through chaos and anarchy. In late 2010, the United Kingdom was still propping up the Libyan government through lucrative arms sales. Nothing is a better guarantee to destroy Libya than a bloody civil war. The tribal system that is still strong in Libya is useful to exploit to generate such a war since Libya has historically been divided into various tribal groups.

This is also why the Libyan government responds by importing mercenaries. Tribal allegiances go before allegiance to the government, especially in Benghazi, and thus the central government has no control over the eastern part of the country anymore. The alternative to mercenaries is a conflict between the various ethnic groups. Gadaffi has tried for 41 years to make the country more homogeneous, but opposition groups funded by outside forced will take little more than a few days to put the country back into the 19th century, before the region was conquered and unified by Europeans. The violence is indeed excessive, but everyone seems to forget that the situation is not the same as in Tunis and Egypt. Tribal ties play a far greater role, and thus the conflict will unfortunately be bloodier.

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reply posted on 10-7-2011 @ 11:38 AM by Mike_A

I read your thread, try using better grammar if you don’t want people to make mistakes.

However since that’s your claim, first of all the source you link to was published a day after the BBC article.

Second, the BBC article has video.

And third, but probably most importantly, the article you link to cites the BBC as it’s source.

Kiệt Linh - (theo Reuters, BBC

www.vnmedia.vn...

www.bbc.co.uk...

I’m really resisting the urge to say something unflattering right now.

I don’t think anything more needs to be said about this rubbish.

Check your sources next time.

reply posted on 10-7-2011 @ 12:37 PM by incrediblelousminds