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Elenin - info or disinfo?

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posted on Jul, 10 2011 @ 02:32 AM
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I certainl read this this with a pinch of salt.



A subtle psyops – psychological warfare operation – intended to engender public fear and apprehension around Comets Elenin, Levy and Honda (all expected to pass near Earth in the Fall of 2011) may be part of a future false flag environmental war attack on specific human settlements and populations using the HAARP-Chemtrails tectonic and weather warfare system.


This article goes on to cover a lot of information on the subject. It looks at Elenin himself, and what people are saying about him. It makes some pretty radical claims regarding HAARP and the Japan earthquake which I just don't beleive for a moment. In fact I think half the article may well be rubbish! lol

However, as an underlying theory, I think there may well be some truth in this: that there is an effort to make the world expect catastrophy in relation to this object, in order to pave the way for some sort of "ecological" fals flag operation.



There appears to be a concerted effort by a command and control network within NASA, the White House, and amongst information operatives like Richard C. Hoagland to create a fear-based psyops around Comet Elenin. Functionally, the psyops appears to be attempting to create a collective fear or “buy in” by some portion of humanity of coming comet-caused catastrophe. This fear or meme may be necessary to carry off a planned Fall 2011 false flag catastrophe incorporating the symbology of destructive comets, the Mayan calendar and an End of the World motif.



So, I do agree with the outcome. That Elenin is of no threat to the earth, but that does not mean we should not expect some serious events which may be "related to it" according to those who controll our media.




posted on Jul, 10 2011 @ 02:41 AM
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I am leaning towards the government having sweet FA to do with creating any disasters.but taking advantage of them instead.

edit on 10-7-2011 by 12voltz because: of the missing letter



posted on Jul, 10 2011 @ 03:01 AM
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ANY article that contains the name elenin is rubbish



posted on Jul, 10 2011 @ 03:08 AM
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Originally posted by VicDiaz89
ANY article that contains the name elenin is rubbish


Thank you for your erudite, intelligent and well thought out responce.


Ya can't get away from the fact that the bloke who discovered this object is called Elenin. You want him to change his name?



posted on Jul, 10 2011 @ 03:39 AM
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Is it too much to ask?



posted on Jul, 10 2011 @ 03:57 AM
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some people say the dumbest sh1t.



posted on Jul, 10 2011 @ 08:34 AM
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Originally posted by VicDiaz89
ANY article that contains the name elenin is rubbish


just like the person "Leonid Elenin" is rubbish



posted on Jul, 10 2011 @ 08:39 AM
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I'd say it's highly unlikely. The only ones who even care about Elenin are the conspiracy theorists and astronomers. If they wanted to set it up for a fall they would have to get the public to know it exists.



posted on Jul, 10 2011 @ 08:40 AM
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There appears to be a concerted effort by a command and control network within NASA, the White House, and amongst information operatives like Richard C. Hoagland to create a fear-based psyops around Comet Elenin.


Since when is Hoagland a "NASA Operative"?!?! There is indeed a massive fear mongering campaign afoot, but it's entirely grassroots. People like Terral Croft and other religious cultists have been bombarding sites all over the internet with the same half-baked garbage.Incidentally, you need to post a link to the article so we can all read it.



posted on Jul, 10 2011 @ 08:40 AM
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Is there a link to the source of your info?
Thanks



posted on Jul, 10 2011 @ 08:43 AM
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posted on Jul, 10 2011 @ 08:44 AM
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Originally posted by DJW001
reply to post by Shamatt
 



There appears to be a concerted effort by a command and control network within NASA, the White House, and amongst information operatives like Richard C. Hoagland to create a fear-based psyops around Comet Elenin.


Since when is Hoagland a "NASA Operative"?!?! There is indeed a massive fear mongering campaign afoot, but it's entirely grassroots. People like Terral Croft and other religious cultists have been bombarding sites all over the internet with the same half-baked garbage.Incidentally, you need to post a link to the article so we can all read it.


Doh!


I totally meant to post that link!

www.rumormillnews.com...



posted on Jul, 10 2011 @ 08:44 AM
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Originally posted by DJW001
www.exopolitics.com...

Who else?


Ahhhhhhhhhh, thanks. Now things are clear.



posted on Jul, 10 2011 @ 08:44 AM
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Originally posted by DJW001
www.exopolitics.com...

Who else?


www.rumormillnews.com...



posted on Jul, 10 2011 @ 08:50 AM
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This article re-hashes all of the deliberate lies and distortions of the Doom Patrol:

The disaster preparedness e-mail.
The 2010 White House authorization to watch for NEO's.
An insinuation that SETI was cut for a reason.
The end of the WISE mission.
Leonid Elenin's debunking "proof" of something.
IT EVEN QUOTES SORCHAA FAAL!



posted on Jul, 10 2011 @ 09:07 AM
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Originally posted by DJW001
This article re-hashes all of the deliberate lies and distortions of the Doom Patrol:

The disaster preparedness e-mail.
The 2010 White House authorization to watch for NEO's.
An insinuation that SETI was cut for a reason.
The end of the WISE mission.
Leonid Elenin's debunking "proof" of something.
IT EVEN QUOTES SORCHAA FAAL!


What is your point?

I said in the OP that the article was probably half rubbish. I was also very specific abbout the subject of this thread. You don't seem to have taken either of these things on board.



posted on Jul, 10 2011 @ 09:11 AM
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What is your point?


That it is 100% rubbish. Alfred Lambremont Webre, JD, MEd actually seems to be spearheading the fear mongering disinfo campaign now.



posted on Jul, 10 2011 @ 02:50 PM
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actually there is good reason to believe that cometary/asteroid impacts have occurred throughout history and are then covered up

www.sott.net...



It would be naïve to think, however, that one merely has to point to deep-seated cracks in the structure of modern knowledge to have scholars setting to and constructing a better framework within which mankind might plan his future. There is considerable intellectual capital invested in the status quo, enough to ensure that those with an interest in preserving it, the 'enlightened' and the 'established', will continue to present the cosmos to us in a suitably non-violent form. The history of ideas reveals that some will even go further and act as a kind of thought police, whipping potential deviants into line. For them, temporal power takes precedence over the fate of the species. (Clube, The Cosmic Winter)

This problem of the "status quo" and "thought police" is not a minor issue. In this series of articles that were kicked off by Mike Baillie's book New Light on the Black Death, we have repeatedly come face to face with the obvious fact that those in positions of power and authority lie to the masses of humanity as a rule rather than an exception.
Again and again in this series, we have discussed historical cometary bombardments, the consequences for humanity being dire enough to begin with, but which were then exacerbated and capitalized upon by pathological deviants, following which the facts were covered up by lies. Worse, again and again we have seen that the masses of humanity that suffer the most from these assaults and manipulations appear to be quite willing to be deceived even to their own death and destruction (if only someone will give them something warm and fuzzy to believe in and a scapegoat to blame). At present, we are observing this phenomenon playing out on the global stage in real time and again and again we shake our heads and ask "why?!" What is it about our world, our present day culture, the human beings that occupy our planet, that gives rise to this bizarre condition that lies are preferred over truth, death over life?


www.sott.net...

scroll down to the comets and catastrophe section in the left sidebar on the page for the links to the rest of the series

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The-Dark-Ages-Were-They-Darker-Than-We-Imagined-< br />

CATASTROPHES IN HUMAN HISTORY www.barry.warmkessel.com...



ABSTRACT

Throughout history, mankind has feared comets, and perhaps rightfully so. The Egyptian record shows that our civilizations have been ravaged by comet impacts and volcanic eruptions throughout the centuries. Contained herein is an initial list of such catastrophes between 3200 BC and 550 AD. Data has been extracted from thee records and from petroglyphs that put a human face on the scope and magnitude of these catastrophes. This data is presented for the world to see what the past has to offer and imagine what the future contains.

INTRODUCTION

A Catastrophe in prehistory is a very strange subject. I shall attempt to explain it in this way. The whole (Egyptian) prehistory is a constant hymne to the KING, who is able to control everything: the State, his People, the Enemies, the Economy, the Art, etc. Then, suddenly, a Catastrophe occurs. Everybody is surprised that the KING is not able to destroy, remove, or whatever, the Catastrophe. It turns out the Catastrophe is more powerful than the KING. So, everybody is silent, and everybody waits till it is all over. Then people start again all the hymnes about the power of the KING, etc.

So, the result is that there is hardly any information about all these Catastrophes. It is very hard to get data. If there are stories about Catastrophes, these are so-called "Lamentations" without any information about what really happened. It simply is a very strange subject!

The geographic knowledge of the Ancients is much better than we generally believe. Australia was discovered in the 3rd Dynasty. America was discovered in the 4th Dynasty, the Atlantic Ocean was crossed in the 5th Dynasty, the last territories on Earth were discovered in the 11th Dynasty (Hawaii and Antarctica).

Usually there is some information about the Catastrophe that occurred during the reign of the king. These Catastrophes are so big, that people had to mention these, because of the huge impact on society. So, when studying the notes, small indications are visible that point to these Disasters. Monuments and petroglyphs are more serious "documents" for information about duration and casualties of Catastrophes. However, the subject remains difficult to analyze.




that said i find it remarkable how elenin [and now yet another comet],nibiru,tyche,nemesis and other stuff has been all mixed up into some monstrous syncretic piece of Doomtarding

re disinfo this supposedly goes back to Zeta-Talk:

educate-yourself.org...


Rachel writes to ZS Livingstone concerned about the "inbound" planet Nibiru psyops being promoted at many Doom & Gloom web sites who've bought into the CIA/NASA/Pentagon deception originated by Nancy Leider at Zeta Talk in October of 1995. Between 1995 and 2003, Nancy and Zeta Talk steadfastly held to the predicton that Nibiru (or the 12th Planet, or "Planet X") would arrive and cause worldwide cataclysmic devastation on earth in late May or early June of 2003. When their staunch prediction never materialized in 2003, they simply moved up their Dooms Day prediction date to 2012. I've posted dozens of articles since 2003 about the foolishness and stupidity of buying into the Nibiru psyops, but there are always new suckers to climb on board that Merry Go Round with each passing month.

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With 3600 year orbit it should have returned about 150 BC. There is no astronomical record of its return.

If it were somehow missed by the sky watchers of Alexandria, Babylon, Rome, Persia, India and China by showing up on the opposite side of the
sun and it were to return in another 3600 years then it should show up 3450 AD about 1439 years from now.

I was told in 1971 by the Melchizedek teachings that the people of"Maldek" had destroyed their own planet. Maldek/Marduk/Nibiru are the same planet. I believe the destruction happen about the time of Abraham circa 2000 BC.



be sure to follow the links at the bottom for more details.

if something is approaching for a collision rest assured:

1-you will be told nothing

2-if you survive you will be told lies as to what happened, and scapegoats will be found to make everybody forget that those in charge said nothing and were "mysteriously" not too put out by the catastrophe.



posted on Jul, 10 2011 @ 02:53 PM
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PS S&F
for openmindedness



posted on Jul, 11 2011 @ 07:32 PM
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Comet Elenin will sweep past Earth in late 2011. NASA’s Don Yeomans says its passage is nothing unusual and no dramatic events are expected.


It seems that the closest this will come to earth is 22 million miles.


For some reason astronomers don’t understand, this comet has been associated by doomsdayers with various prophecies (“Thirst and famine when the comet will pass.” – Nostradamus: Century 2, Quatrain 62). Yet it is only an ordinary comet after all. At its closest point, Elenin will pass 35 million kilometers (22 million miles) from us, or nearly 100 times the moon’s distance, according to Don Yeomans of NASA’s Near-Earth Object Program Office at NASA’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, California. He said:


This comet is also comparably smaller to other spotted, and it's mass make up is not dense enough to cause any effects here on earth.


Comet Elenin will not only be far away, it is also on the small side for comets. And comets are not the most densely-packed objects out there. They usually have the density of something akin to loosely packed icy dirt. So you’ve got a modest-sized icy dirtball that is getting no closer than 35 million kilometers. It will have an immeasurably miniscule influence on our planet. By comparison, my subcompact automobile exerts a greater influence on the ocean’s tides than comet Elenin ever will.


It appears that the comet will be at it's closest on October 16 at 22 million miles. So I am wondering if wild Elenin claims will taper off and die after the 16th of October? What do you think?


Don Yeomans with the truth about Comet Elenin



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