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posted on Jul, 11 2011 @ 05:22 AM
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The Vatican will do something and will create a one world religion.

For centuries the Vatican has attempted to obtain control of Jerusalem, which started with the Crusades.
They want to make the people to beleive that the Messiah that they will put on the world's stage is going to be accepted as genuine.
All of this has to happen in the Old City Of Jerusalem
What they will bring fort is that this "Messiah" will merge the three monotheistic religions, usher in peace and harmony in the world, and solve the Middle East conflict.

The Vatican will proclaim this so-called "Messiah" . However he will be a false one and it and the Vatican will insist that by having a "world government" for example the United Nations the world peace and harmony will be ushered in. This will be a lie, and a fraud, but never mind.
I think that Israel will be stripped of its sovereignty as an independent nation giving way to a "regional bloc of nations" in the Middle East. Israel will be pressured to accede to these demands by all world bodies and the superpowers on the claim that "this is the only way to solve the Middle East conflict.

To convince the Jews to go along this path they will convince them that with the "Messiah" having appeared for the Jews, it is time to start rebuilding the Third Temple- what they call "Solomon's Temple".

Make no mistake about it. The Old City of Jerusalem, as well as most of the eastern half of the city, is what The Vatican is after.

SHIMON PERES CONFRONTED FOR HANDING JERUSALEM TO THE VATICAN ... Palestinians proposed giving Temple Mount to the ...

www.youtube.com...


On September 10 1993, 3 days before the signing of the Oslo Accords Washington, the Italian newspaper La Stampa reported that then Foreign Minister Shimon Peres concluded a secret deal with the Vatican to hand over sovereignty of Jerusalem's Old City to the Vatican. The agreement was included in the secret clauses of the Declaration Of Principles signed on September 13th, 1993 in Washington, DC.


Why?

By the control of the entire Old City of Jerusalem (and not just Church properties) and being able to build whatever Vatican wants on Mount Zion is critical for the program they have planned to put into play in old Jerusalem.
This deal was signed with Israel b y Yossi Beilin and Shimon Peres (in secret and without the approval of the Knesset).

This gives the Vatican and the Catholic not only extraterritorial status to their properties (which is what the bi-lateral agreement the Israeli government signed with the Vatican on December 30th, 1993, put in law) but of control over the entire city as "custodians" under UN presence. In this way the Jews will give up control over the Old City.

I would not be surprise once the Vatican has full control of the Old city of Jerusalem they and NWO Project Blue Beam bring out a False Holographic Second Coming. The technology is there

NWO Project Blue Beam

alternativenewsreport.net... ... oking-gun/

Blue Beam in Cina.
www.youtube.com... ... r_embedded




posted on Jul, 11 2011 @ 05:26 AM
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Tuesday, July 7, 2009
The Pope Calls For World Government With Real Teeth
In his brand new encyclical entitled Caritas in Veritate, or Charity in Truth, Pope Benedict is openly calling for a "true world political authority" with "real teeth". At a time when many prominent world leaders are publicly calling for a "New World Order", to have the Roman pontiff openly declare that we all need a world government is more than a little alarming.

The 144 page encyclical is the result of a 2 year effort by Pope Benedict to bring Catholic social teaching up to date on issues such as economic development, terrorism, sex tourism, population issues, bioethics and the environment.

In calling for more globalization and a true world government, the Pope chose words that were very direct and to the point:

"There is a strongly felt need... for a reform of the United Nations Organisation, and likewise of economic institutions and international finance, so that the concept of the family of nations can acquire real teeth... there is urgent need of a true world political authority."

Real teeth?

What would a world government with "real teeth" look like anyway?

Apparently the Pope feels that the job of such a world political authority would be "to manage the global economy; to revive economies hit by the crisis; to avoid any deterioration of the present crisis and the greater imbalances that would result."

To manage the global economy?

A one world economic system?

Seriously he can't be serious.

But he is.

Not only is he advocating a one world economic system, but he is advocating a very socialist one. In the encyclical, the Pope wrote that a one world economic system would "open up the unprecedented possibility of large-scale redistribution of wealth on a world-wide scale".

A redistribution of wealth?

Since when did the Pope become a socialist?

When the Pope puts out an encyclical that openly calls for a one world government and a one world economic system, it just shows all of us how late in the game things really are.

The truth is that those of us who study Bible prophecy also know that a one world religion is coming in the last days, and that the Roman Catholic organization will be very involved in that.

A one world government, a one world economic system and a one world religion will be three of the key pillars of the future kingdom of the antichrist. While we are still quite a way from any of that becoming a reality, the truth is that it is quite chilling for the Pope to be calling for a one world government. Let us hope that we still have a significant amount of time before it becomes a reality.


www.chroniclewatch.com... ... government/

Pope Demands World Government.flv

Very interesting video what the pope wants and said
www.youtube.com...

Pope Is Head Of Coming One World Religion.mp4
Spring 2011

www.youtube.com...



posted on Jul, 11 2011 @ 05:33 AM
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Just a couple of words here WHO CARES??? just had to waste a minute i'll never get back to write that



posted on Jul, 11 2011 @ 06:10 AM
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God doesnt need money or power or land or the vatican.


Religon and power through money or economic or government influence is a crime against humanity.

There can be no religous ideal allowed to foster itself through the use of money or power of fiscal enterprise.

God doesnt need dollars.


A one world faith would result in world harmony,everyone could eat and sleep under a roof.



If we took back all of the money and economic power the religons have raped from the normal healthy people we would have something resembling utopia.

religons owning things is a crime against humanity,religons using media or any method beyond word of mouth is a crime against humanity,overt and covert advertising with the media globally is a crime against humanity,corporations have no right to acess our psyches with immoral intent.

A one world faith would seperate church and power,the vatican WILL NEVER DO THIS ,religons always start wars to stay alive whenever humanity figures them out and comes hunting them.



The internet is the bloodhound and humanity is running through the forest right now straight to the vatican.



posted on Jul, 11 2011 @ 06:47 AM
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Even being a thoroughly reader of ATS, this is my first post here.

Reading this thread I can't stop myself to underline a pretty disturbing thing: human species is not better now than it was almost a thousand years ago; we are still prepared to kill each other in the name of religion and we are SO convinced that our beliefs are the righteous ones and others' are just a bunch of crap!

Is it so important the fact that Jesus Christ walked on water by himself or not? Or that the Islam God is called Allah and the Christian God is called, well, God? We are so ready to burn the others just because they read a different book? Common, this is stupid...
Islam kills people but also Christians kills people, is that simple, and this is a truth not from few years ago but from the day when the religions were born. We are so damn ready to look at the neighbors without looking in the mirror first, and this is the real danger, for all of us.

Falls of Christ's Church? You can't be serious, dude... the real Church - whatever that one is - lies in the mind and heart of the believers, not in a building or physical symbols and if we're cannot accept the fact that different peoples have different beliefs, we're ALL screwed by a long shot.
God - and by that I mean GOD, the unique one - is powerful enough to know what we keep in our heart and I'm sure He does not agree with the fact that we became more and more intolerant to other people just because they call Him Jehovah, Buddha or Allah.
It is not the religion who make people good or bad, the society we live in does this.

I'm living in a country which is one of the most free country from the religion point of view; we have all churches here. The Christians have Muslim friends, the Muslims have Hindu friends, we salute each other, we talk to each other, NEVER been a religious controversy here, NEVER. There wasn't any "ritual" or "honor" killing here, NEVER. There wasn't any Muslim cursed or attacked by Christians, NEVER. There are halal stores and Christians buy stuff from there; our kids are playing together, no matter their religion. In the offices we have Muslim people and when they have to pray, everyone respects that.
In few words, nobody is trying to enforce his beliefs to anybody; we respect each other, and I think this is the way it should be.

We should stop listen so much to the media and governments and try to listen to our true heart instead.

Falls of Christ's Church? No, dude, the real danger is the fall of humanity, the fall of reason, the fall of common sense over a bunch of symbols and books.
My 2 cents...
edit on 11-7-2011 by shansen because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 11 2011 @ 06:52 AM
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Originally posted by shansen
Even being a thoroughly reader of ATS, this is my first post here.

Reading this thread I can't stop myself to underline a pretty disturbing thing: human species is not better now than it was almost a thousand years ago; we are still prepared to kill each other in the name of religion and we are SO convinced that our beliefs are the righteous ones and others' are just a bunch of crap!

Is it so important the fact that Jesus Christ walked on water by himself or not? Or that the Islam God is called Allah and the Christian God is called, well, God? We are so ready to burn the others just because they read a different book? Common, this is stupid...
Islam kills people but also Christians kills people, is that simple, and this is a truth not from few years ago but from the day when the religions were born. We are so damn ready to look at the neighbors without looking in the mirror first, and this is the real danger, for all of us.

Falls of Christ's Church? You can't be serious, dude... the real Church - whatever that one is - lies in the mind and heart of the believers, not in a building or physical symbols and if we're cannot accept the fact that different peoples have different beliefs, we're ALL screwed by a long shot.
God - and by that I mean GOD, the unique one - is powerful enough to know what we keep in our heart and I'm sure He does not agree with the fact that we became more and more intolerant to other people just because they call Him Jehovah, Buddha or Allah.
It is not the religion who make people good or bad, the society we live in does this.

I'm living in a country which is one of the most free country from the religion point of view; we have all churches here. The Christians have Muslim friends, the Muslims have Hindu friends, we salute each other, we talk to each other, NEVER been a religious controversy here, NEVER. There wasn't any "ritual" or "honor" killing here, NEVER. There wasn't any Muslim cursed or attacked by Christians, NEVER. There are halal stores and Christians buy stuff from there; our kids are playing together, no matter their religion. In the offices we have Muslim people and when they have to pray, everyone respects that.
In few words, nobody is trying to enforce his beliefs to anybody; we respect each other, and I think this is the way it should be.

We should stop listen so much to the media and governments and try to listen to our true heart instead.

Falls of Christ's Church? No, dude, the real danger is the fall of humanity, the fall of reason, the fall of common sense over a bunch of symbols and books.
My 2 cents...
edit on 11-7-2011 by shansen because: (no reason given)



Welcome mate and brilliantly said



posted on Jul, 11 2011 @ 08:05 AM
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Originally posted by KeeperOfGenisis

Originally posted by shansen
Even being a thoroughly reader of ATS, this is my first post here.

Reading this thread I can't stop myself to underline a pretty disturbing thing: human species is not better now than it was almost a thousand years ago; we are still prepared to kill each other in the name of religion and we are SO convinced that our beliefs are the righteous ones and others' are just a bunch of crap!

Is it so important the fact that Jesus Christ walked on water by himself or not? Or that the Islam God is called Allah and the Christian God is called, well, God? We are so ready to burn the others just because they read a different book? Common, this is stupid...
Islam kills people but also Christians kills people, is that simple, and this is a truth not from few years ago but from the day when the religions were born. We are so damn ready to look at the neighbors without looking in the mirror first, and this is the real danger, for all of us.

Falls of Christ's Church? You can't be serious, dude... the real Church - whatever that one is - lies in the mind and heart of the believers, not in a building or physical symbols and if we're cannot accept the fact that different peoples have different beliefs, we're ALL screwed by a long shot.
God - and by that I mean GOD, the unique one - is powerful enough to know what we keep in our heart and I'm sure He does not agree with the fact that we became more and more intolerant to other people just because they call Him Jehovah, Buddha or Allah.
It is not the religion who make people good or bad, the society we live in does this.

I'm living in a country which is one of the most free country from the religion point of view; we have all churches here. The Christians have Muslim friends, the Muslims have Hindu friends, we salute each other, we talk to each other, NEVER been a religious controversy here, NEVER. There wasn't any "ritual" or "honor" killing here, NEVER. There wasn't any Muslim cursed or attacked by Christians, NEVER. There are halal stores and Christians buy stuff from there; our kids are playing together, no matter their religion. In the offices we have Muslim people and when they have to pray, everyone respects that.
In few words, nobody is trying to enforce his beliefs to anybody; we respect each other, and I think this is the way it should be.

We should stop listen so much to the media and governments and try to listen to our true heart instead.

Falls of Christ's Church? No, dude, the real danger is the fall of humanity, the fall of reason, the fall of common sense over a bunch of symbols and books.
My 2 cents...
edit on 11-7-2011 by shansen because: (no reason given)



Welcome mate and brilliantly said



I do not know what country you live in but you should see what Muslims and Christians controversy is all about in England and in France



posted on Jul, 11 2011 @ 08:07 AM
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Christian Heritage Party of Canada: Canada Must Act Against Sharia Law Now

Marketwire (press release) 9 February 2011
By Jim Hnatiuk

A crisis of global proportions is being felt by Western countries that have accepted mass immigration from the Muslim world. Most European states find themselves dealing with immigrant populations unwilling to accept the laws in their adopted societies.

Despite the protestations of some Muslims, it is a fact that immigration and migration have been inherent forms of jihad since Islam's inception, designed to make Islam the dominant force in countries that are currently non-Islamic.(1)

Instead of integrating and abiding by cultural and legal norms, Muslim immigrants have segregated themselves into cultural ghettos where they continue to apply Sharia law to themselves and non-Muslims alike.(2)

This has resulted in riots in France,(3) a rape crisis in Sweden,(4) Sharia punishments being taught to school children in Britain,(5) and holiday welfare fraud in Denmark,(6) to name only four of many social problems. (...)



posted on Jul, 11 2011 @ 08:16 AM
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Video: Richard Dawkins "Islam Is One Of The Great Evils In The World"

FaithFreedom.org 11 July 2011

By Jonathan Harrell

Richard Dawkins is one of the most prominent author and rational thinker.
Richard makes point like no other, he is also the founder of RDF and Out Campaign. Richard has left many Muslims to convert and leave their Islamic faith.
Dawkins has participated in many debates. He also mention Faith Freedom International in one of his best books "God Delusion.”


His Take On Islam

Islam deserves criticism on account of the logical consequences of its dogma, namely, that the murder of fellow human beings is to be rewarded with sensual pleasure in a hedonistic ‘Paradise’- a concept born in the fantasies of an Arab rebel some fourteen centuries ago. The religion of Mohammed is a dangerous system when the teachings and example of the ‘prophet’ are believed and followed.



posted on Jul, 11 2011 @ 08:23 AM
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So basically your bases is that there was an attack on Christ Church building done by Elits of the Earth via US Navy to help destroy the blueprint of the Kingdom of the SON of MAN on EArth???? In order to bring fourth a new religion. WHY START A NEW RELIGION THEN???
And not stop it as they attempt to destroy the current. Do you have any direction of where this NEW RELIGION will come from?
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posted on Jul, 11 2011 @ 08:57 AM
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I know what is happening in other countries but try to think outside the box a little: without media enraging people, without governments' erroneous approach to the matter, would YOU, and I mean, you, as a person, throw a stone to someone else just because his beliefs are different than yours? I hope not, mate, because this is what THEY are expecting from us... keeping us busy hating each other... "Divide et impera", are you familiar with this?

Immigrants... well, this is a bad excuse for politicians' stupidity; almost every time something bad is happening in a country on a big scale, one of the favorite class to blame is immigrants'. The governments are trying hard to put them in an inferior position, they started to feel inferior and from here to ethnic or religious conflicts is no more than one step, c'mon...

Western governments can't deal with other religion's immigrants? Then just don't allow them to enter the country, for crying out loud! Oh... they're working for less than a native... they do lesser jobs, like cleaning the streets and unclogging the toilets... well, then this is something completely different, I'm afraid, which is having nothing to do with religion.

What do you expect from them, to come in a Western country and embrace all values there on a snap, giving up all of their own beliefs and values? This is not better than what "white men" did to all of the other cultures in history, expecting them to give up their beliefs just because the whites told them to do so... Mexico, Incas, Native Americans, all of these should tell you something. Thousands and thousands killed because they worshiped a different God, entire cultures and civilizations wiped out in the name of God, wrath and destruction, mass murder... all of these in the name of God - or so it was told, because the real God in this case is having a different name: Money, Power, Land, Oil, Control, Politics, you name it...

What a pity. Such a beautiful world we're living and yet we can't enjoy the life because we're more preoccupied about how our neighbor is praying to God. Yuck.



posted on Jul, 11 2011 @ 09:17 AM
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Originally posted by tichan55
Video: Richard Dawkins "Islam Is One Of The Great Evils In The World"

FaithFreedom.org 11 July 2011

By Jonathan Harrell

Richard Dawkins is one of the most prominent author and rational thinker.
Richard makes point like no other, he is also the founder of RDF and Out Campaign. Richard has left many Muslims to convert and leave their Islamic faith.
Dawkins has participated in many debates. He also mention Faith Freedom International in one of his best books "God Delusion.”


His Take On Islam

Islam deserves criticism on account of the logical consequences of its dogma, namely, that the murder of fellow human beings is to be rewarded with sensual pleasure in a hedonistic ‘Paradise’- a concept born in the fantasies of an Arab rebel some fourteen centuries ago. The religion of Mohammed is a dangerous system when the teachings and example of the ‘prophet’ are believed and followed.



Okay, how about YOUR opinion about this?
The world is full of "scholars", "wise men", studying religion, giving opinion, reasoning and stuff but I wonder if a Muslim "scholar" ever seen a Christian child dying because of hunger and if a Christian "scholar" ever seen a Muslim child dying because of hunger. I wonder if any of them can look straight in that child's eyes and tells him while he's expiring "Kiddo, sorry for you but you are from the wrong religion so I can't do anything for you".

Feeding me with precious quotes from God knows what nerd, won't do. I want to know YOUR OWN opinion. We should think for ourselves, not swallow arguments from some people we don't even know just because they happen to be charismatic and know perfectly how to sell their stuff.

"Cogito, ergo sum"
Descartes knew something, that's for sure...



P.S. Okay, I feel I have to make some things clear: I'm not saying that one religion is better than others. I'm only saying that we should think for ourselves a little more and try to accept each other as humans, not zealots.

Peace.
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posted on Jul, 11 2011 @ 09:27 AM
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The Muslim Brotherhood was a Nazi formation, and CIA is heavily invovled. They love repression of people instead of the progression that was happening, and control of the earth's resources, and libraries buried underground.

Just search Banna and Nazi, like this: here

All religions contain light squares and dark squares.

Stand in the light squares only: No Wars, no starvation/homelessness; Peace/Love/Kindness/Understanding/Helpfulness/Generosity/Forgiveness. No retaliation. In the Talmud, Kindness is equal to the weight of all the laws combined.

And here:

12 Hatred stirs up dissension, but love covers over all wrongs.

1Peter 4;7-11

7The end of all things is near. Therefore be clear minded and self-controlled so that you can pray. 8Above all, love each other deeply, because love covers over a multitude of sins. 9Offer hospitality to one another without grumbling. 10Each one should use whatever gift he has received to serve others, faithfully administering God’s grace in its various forms. 11If anyone speaks, he should do it as one speaking the very words of God. If anyone serves, he should do it with the strength God provides, so that in all things God may be praised through Jesus Christ. To him be the glory and the power for ever and ever. Amen.

Luke 7;44-46

Do you see this woman? I came into your house. You did not give me any water for my feet, but she wet my feet with her tears and wiped them with her hair. 45You did not give me a kiss, but this woman, from the time I entered, has not stopped kissing my feet. 46You did not put oil on my head, but she has poured perfume on my feet. 47Therefore, I tell you, her many sins have been forgiven—for she loved much. But he who has been forgiven little loves little.



posted on Jul, 11 2011 @ 12:51 PM
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Originally posted by conspir007
Ok first off, all of you have great comments....here is the thing though, I truly do believe that we are in fact headed for a ONE WORLD FAITH. Here is why I believe in it. Its almost, or its just as similar as to how the higher powers want to have a ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT. I mean it is true, all these religions and ideas just cause pain, suffering, genocides, murder, I mean to the higher powers, it is going to be a whole lot easier for them to control, if they can just have a ONE WORLD FAITH, or for short OWF. Just as it will be easier for them to rule, if they can have a OWG or ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT. I mean the religion would honestly be, Jewish I think. Just for the matter that this person know as "Christ" was a Jew, so it would only make sense to make the religion for the entire world "Jew" right? I'd think so. All in all, I don't think this idea is to far off. If anything having a OWF would definitely involve some population control, I mean telling people to believe in one thing and that you can't have the freedom to have your own beliefs? There is gonna be some blood shed. But isn't that what the governments would want too? I mean we are starting to become to much for this planet if you think about it, so having a OWF would definitely work in the governments best interest...now for us, I foresee a revolt. Who is with me? Haha I am off on Tues, and Wed I can only revolt on those days.


I dont think it can be jewish because in Revelation it explains how Israel is attacked by all nations, now why would they be attacking their own religious point? Also, the Bible explains how Israel will be a burden in the last days for the entire world. Thirdly, those left behind that decide they made the wrong decisions that convert to Christianity can only be saved by being beheaded, that is something the fundamental Muslim religion does. So, to me at least, its logical to assume that has to be a player in the OWF somehow.

But I do agree with the one poster, this thread does seem like alot of hype and the original OP is just stirring the pot to see just how many replies it can get or if serious, some real biased issues towards Christians. And the comment of "Christians burning people". Its the lake of fire for not repenting of sins and the soul is sent there, its not sticking actual people in trash cans and dousing them in gasoline.



posted on Jul, 11 2011 @ 01:18 PM
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One other thing I would like to add. About the post and the pope being a socialist. The world is already divided into 10 economic regions. Just waiting to be put into place. All these countries failing, bailouts, and the IMF is the front runner to be installed. My belief anyway, is what was explained in the Bible of the "ten horns". Jack Van Impe preached about it being the revived Roman Empire (The EU), others said it was OPEC, others said Arab League of Nations or the G8 to expand to the G10. My belief has always been when the global economy fails, then the currency and everyone's assests are reset. Then, the 10 economic regions go into place and the one world government and currency takes affect or at least is set up. That is why I have attempted to pay off as much debt as possible. Why China, for example, along with other countries has been buying up so much land, gold and other precious metals.

If you have a loan, that is not your assest when everything resets. That is the assest to which who you own the loan to. This, in the humble posters opinion, happens right after the whole world looks to completely destroy itself and almost anyone will turn to a person in dispair. Setting up the anti christ, and yes, I do believe in Project Blue Beam and, yes, I do believe aliens are fallen angels and society are being set up and desensitized for the rapture. Whether its pre or mid, or post. I dont know. What I do know is what scripture tells me. What it tells me is, that there has to be a one world govt., a one world currency, a false prophet, and an anti christ that makes wonders and miracle seem to appear in the heavens and claims to be the messiah. And all this HAS to come first before Jesus actually makes his return. That is why one of my earlier posts I distiquished between Christians and true believers. Because some Christians will fall for the anti christ, if not most. True believers will know, that the anti christ has to come first. Thats why I personally believe in the pre trib rapture and aliens will be the explanation for the missing people. The ones left have "moved" on to a higher plane of understanding because the Christians were the problems of the world and was holding everything back, but now they are gone so lets move on our way. I expect an onslaught on true believers very shortly. And if I have to explain why I make a reference to the 2, then you already know what I am meaning.



posted on Jul, 11 2011 @ 01:51 PM
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The EU was built on the Nazi formation of it. And the fourth reicht is the platform. Its not socialism, or at least its a corruption of what truly is social democracy, which is freedom and equality.

www.dailymail.co.uk...


Revealed: The secret report that shows how the Nazis planned a Fourth Reich ...in the EU

The paper is aged and fragile, the typewritten letters slowly fading. But US Military Intelligence report EW-Pa 128 is as chilling now as the day it was written in November 1944.

The document, also known as the Red House Report, is a detailed account of a secret meeting at the Maison Rouge Hotel in Strasbourg on August 10, 1944. There, Nazi officials ordered an elite group of German industrialists to plan for Germany's post-war recovery, prepare for the Nazis' return to power and work for a 'strong German empire'. In other words: the Fourth Reich.


www.suite101.com...
Did the Nazis Create the European Union?


Scandal in Europe over NATO Officers Wearing Nazi Symbols in

In addition is it any coincidence that the Pope is an ex Nazi, Prince Charles, Prince Bernhard of Holland, NASA, the Cia, The Rockefellers famous connections, the Bush family, the Trilaterial commision, the Bidlenberg Group, the Muslim Brotherhood, the list goes on, and on, and on...............


So the Nazi's are planning to bring in another religion. NOT ON MY WATCH!



posted on Jul, 11 2011 @ 02:51 PM
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The furnace of fire represents the reaction of sin; why wailing and gnashing of teeth? Because the people will realize how horrible the actions they have committed were when they themselves experience them. Such a fire is everlasting if people refuse to change their ways and follow righteousness.

1 Corinthians 3:12-17
12 Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble;
13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.
14 If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward.
15 If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.
16 Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?
17 If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.

We cannot begin to find out the works of God and this is justification to the faithful. We are promised that our deeds will return back to us; this is how we should operate, loving our neighbors as ourselves. The faithful are not faithful for the sake of not experiencing hell-fire, but it is an inward desire to want to be closer to God. God knows the hearts and judges accordingly as is good.

Psalms 18:25-26
25 With the merciful thou wilt shew thyself merciful; with an upright man thou wilt shew thyself upright;
26 With the pure thou wilt shew thyself pure; and with the froward thou wilt shew thyself froward.

Usually how one conceptualizes God is how one views their reality and their self.
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posted on Jul, 11 2011 @ 04:21 PM
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When the information in the OP about the events in Otautahi/Christchurch are wrong, then the rest of her posts can be taken with a grain of salt. Nobody cares though, they're just involved in a religious debate to-ing and fro-ing and full of bluster without even bothering to check the facts of the OP.

Crazy religos.




posted on Jul, 11 2011 @ 05:40 PM
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Originally posted by Unity_99
reply to post by sdebunker
 


The EU was built on the Nazi formation of it. And the fourth reicht is the platform. Its not socialism, or at least its a corruption of what truly is social democracy, which is freedom and equality.

www.dailymail.co.uk...


Revealed: The secret report that shows how the Nazis planned a Fourth Reich ...in the EU

The paper is aged and fragile, the typewritten letters slowly fading. But US Military Intelligence report EW-Pa 128 is as chilling now as the day it was written in November 1944.

The document, also known as the Red House Report, is a detailed account of a secret meeting at the Maison Rouge Hotel in Strasbourg on August 10, 1944. There, Nazi officials ordered an elite group of German industrialists to plan for Germany's post-war recovery, prepare for the Nazis' return to power and work for a 'strong German empire'. In other words: the Fourth Reich.


www.suite101.com...
Did the Nazis Create the European Union?


Scandal in Europe over NATO Officers Wearing Nazi Symbols in

In addition is it any coincidence that the Pope is an ex Nazi, Prince Charles, Prince Bernhard of Holland, NASA, the Cia, The Rockefellers famous connections, the Bush family, the Trilaterial commision, the Bidlenberg Group, the Muslim Brotherhood, the list goes on, and on, and on...............


So the Nazi's are planning to bring in another religion. NOT ON MY WATCH!






So your saying, that Nazi Germany tried to take over the world, then made a plan to lose WW2 so they could build a post war platform to form a EU with the help of NASA, the CIA, (not suprised to see Bush name thrown in there), and others you mentioned. With the basis of this EU based on freedom and equality while they trained their SS soldiers to grow up with puppy german shepards and them kill them when entering the army and put millions of people in gas chambers. Thats freedom, democracy, and equality? Plus, your going to tell me that EU countries are not socialism countries? If you want to say they started a war with the intention of killing millions because of their ethnic and religious belief, by a dictator that his plan was to intentionally lose the war, so he could have the countries that whooped his butt pay to rebuild his country to carry out his platform. Yeah, I would say that is a "share the wealth" plan, and that is socialism. Why do you think the EU is a mess right now? There is no wealth to share anymore, and people has gotten so use to govts giving them everything that they cant afford anymore, they are rioting in the streets and countries going broke. Oh, and one more thing. If the person that is running a country wears a military uniform to work everyday, yeah I would say that isnt a democracy or equality.



posted on Jul, 11 2011 @ 06:11 PM
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Nazi-ism is the vehicle that greater interests than Germany have OK'd, from its international banking roots, to being promoted heavily by the support of the Bush and Rockefeller families.

That they caved and now operate out of the US/UK and middle east, and are the main doers in NWO, forthcoming fascism, black operations and even Sharia, is pretty obvious to those who have done the research, even just toeing in on it.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Heres a thread about Jim Marrs: The Rise of the Fourth Reich

someone who has done quite a bit more.

So, in answer, yes that would be what I'm saying. Though Hitler was a tool and a means to an end.

From the Georgia Guidestones to any talk of a new religion, with an emphasis on keeping populations down, and eugenics, this is related to the same groups.
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