reply to post by bauldrick
why did you choose to ignore so many of the questions?
Because most if not all are entirely irrelevant to this thread and accuse the OP, or doubters of 2012, of doing things they didn't do. But here, since
you apparently need everything explained to you carefully I'll look at the questions one at a time.
1 Why are all ancient cultures liars ?
This is what is known as a loaded question. It's like asking a politician "Why do you support the legalization of murder?" when they've never said
anything of the sort. I didn't see the OP claim the ancients were lying about anything.
2 Who was alive to observe these events you or them ?
Any amateur astronomer can watch the stars and as it so happens we do "align" with the galactic center every year, but you'd have to be alive for
26,000 years to watch precession takes place. So anyone can view the "alignment" with galactic center and no one can view the entirety of precession.
Also observing something and understanding it are two vastly different things and while observation can eventually lead to understanding that is not
always the case. I've never directly observed a volcanic eruption yet I understand volcanoes far better than an ancient society that thought eruptions
were caused by angry gods that could be placated with a few extra virgin sacrifices.
3 Which society is more trustworthy ?
A nonsensical question as the majority of society has little or no say in scientific discovery. Also doesn't make sense to judge an entire society as
trustworthy or untrustworthy.
4 Which society made the observations first ?
Doesn't matter. The Greeks saw lightning way before we did, does this mean they were right that it was caused by Zeus? Columbus was long believed the
first to set foot in and observe the New World, does that mean he was right to think he'd made it all the way to India?
5 How many times has modern science been wrong ?
Fewer times than non-modern science. Or would you like your family doctor to do a little blood-letting the next time you visit him?
6 How many times have things had to be revised ?
When new facts are found science refines and revises its views to come to a conclusion that better fits the facts. So things will be revised until we
have the whole picture and every time new info is found it will shift the paradigm a bit and make the picture more clear.
7 What do long dead men have to gain from lying ?
This is why I didn't even want to bother with these questions. NO ONE IS SUGGESTING THEY WERE LYING. Were the ancients lying when they claimed
lightning came from Zeus? OR WERE THEY JUST MISTAKEN? There were some things the ancients knew, other things they were ignorant of, when you're
ignorant of it and you come up with something magical to explain it that isn't lying, it's just being wrong.
8 What do the governments have to gain from hiding the truth ?
A broad sweeping question with a total of less than nothing to do with this thread
9 Why are near earth objects that could potentially hit the earth now top secret ?
Again absolute nonsense with no relevance to the thread but I'll bite on this one... hmm, could it be to AVOID A PANIC? Or perhaps because some of
what might hit Earth is debris that the space program put up there? There's two simple reasons in about 1 second worth of thought.
11 Why all the D.U.M.B bases being built ?
Why all the questions that have nothing to do with this thread?
12 Why have they built the seed fault ?
You do know there are numerous plausible ways that life could be wiped out on Earth right? Having a storage place of seeds or other biologically
valuable materials makes sense from a disaster preparedness stand-point. Or would you like the government to not have a plan in the event of a SHTF
13 Has NASA ever been found to got anything wrong or misled the public ?
They're only human, I'm sure they get things wrong from time to time. Dunno what that has to do with the thread though since NASA wasn't the OPs
source. This question should read "Has Stellarium ever gotten anything wrong?"
Number fourteen I already addressed in my post. Now I'd prefer if this was the last time I have to address your "questions" here since they're almost
entirely off topic. If you want to continue this discussion send me a U2U
edit on 9-7-2011 by Titen-Sxull because: (no reason given)