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Feds: Pot has no medical purpose

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posted on Jul, 8 2011 @ 08:49 PM
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The Department of Justice declared Friday: "DHHS concluded that marijuana has a high potential for abuse, has no accepted medical use in the United States, and lacks an acceptable level of safety for use even under medical supervision." (Read the rest of the ruling here.)

The decision comes almost a decade after medical marijuana supporters asked the feds to reclassify cannabis. The activists point to research that showed its effectiveness in treating certain diseases, like glaucoma and multiple sclerosis, and the side effects of chemotherapy. The LA Times spoke to advocates who criticized the ruling, but said it came with a silver lining because they could now move the issue to the federal courts.

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It is completely ludicrous the Federal Government will allow oxycodone, which is basically synthetic heroin, to be prescribed, but classify cannabis as having no medicinal purpose or value. The evidence against this position is overwhelming. There must be some ulterior motive for them to maintain this stance. There may be many.



posted on Jul, 8 2011 @ 08:56 PM
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Mercury is good for you as is apsertame

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Apparently radiation is good for you too..
It gives you cancer which is also good for you...
As is chemotherapy, which over 90 percent of oncologists wouldn't take to save their lives...
of course if you take it
and they get cancer...
they can spend the money they ( bernie) made off of your slow horrible death to buy lots of pot....
and get some hot hookers to wait on em hand and foot...
down in mexico at that posh clinic


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posted on Jul, 8 2011 @ 09:00 PM
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they are right, with the varied usage of what they refer to as pot leaves little or no purpose to visit a medical office as often as the feds would like.

in fact, the usage of pot as medicin is totally dextrimental to their medical establishment.

what would you expect them to say?

pot is so great we are making its use mandatory, so we can end several billion dollars industrial monopolies, and even achieve world peace along the way since everyone would be to stoned to consider the concept of war?


 
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posted on Jul, 8 2011 @ 09:01 PM
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Oh my god. Another retarded, in the most retarded sense possible, ruling by the feds. And everybody knows why too...Big Pharma can't make money off of something anyone can grow. There it is...Unbelievable. So I wonder, why is cannibis so much worse than alcohol? How many deaths a year are contributed to weed compared to alocohol abuse/drunk driving? Disgusting is what this is....f$%^ the gov't is what I say. California, where I live, atleast is a bit more tolerant.


Thanks for the heads up on how more stupid our gov't is becoming...S&F for you!


Stay Green my friends!



posted on Jul, 8 2011 @ 09:02 PM
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that isn't exactly a foundation for the existance of things.

very few items or food stuffs have medical purposes. should they all be prohibited?

does the fed have a medical purpose?


 
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posted on Jul, 8 2011 @ 09:03 PM
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These are the kind of people who are on the frontlines of the medical marijuana movement today:



Joe Schwartz is a 90-year-old great-grandfather of three who enjoys a few puffs of pot each night before he crawls into bed in the Southern California retirement community he calls home.

The World War II veteran smokes the drug to alleviate debilitating nausea and is one of about 150 senior citizens on this sprawling, 18,000-person gated campus who belongs to a thriving — and controversial — medical marijuana collective operating here, in the middle of one of the largest retirement communities in the United States.

The fledgling collective mirrors a nationwide trend as more and more senior citizens turn to marijuana, legal or not, to ease the aches and pains of aging. But in Laguna Woods Village, tucked in the heart of one of the most conservative and wealthiest counties in California, these ganja-smoking grandparents have stirred up a heated debate with their collective, attracting a crackdown from within the self-governed community.

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People who have lived long lives and know what it takes to survive. They are turning away from the poison pipeline of big pharma and toward low impact herbal remedies they can provide for themselves.



posted on Jul, 8 2011 @ 09:04 PM
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Hmm I would love for them to challenge this link, which contains hundreds of news sites/ studies/ etc


*SNIP*
MOD NOTE: Find a better source.
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posted on Jul, 8 2011 @ 09:07 PM
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I guess we can't even plant vegetables...
much less be one




Originally posted by ModernAcademia

Woman Faces Jail Time for Planting Organic Vegetable Garden


moneyland.time.com

A Michigan woman is being charged with a misdemeanor offense and is facing up to 93 days in jail. Her crime? Planting a vegetable garden—in her own yard. Her front yard, that is.

Like many consumers today, Julie Bass, of Oak Park, Mich., appreciates the taste and healthfulness of organic vegetables

Front yard or back, it’s her property, and she’s allowed to do with it what she pleases, right? Wrong, say the local authorities, citing local codes that require front yards to have only “suitabl
(visit the link for the full news article)

www.abovetopsecret.com...

they said "suitable" in the bylaw means "common"
and it isn't "common" to have a veggie garden in the front yard...
edit on 8-7-2011 by Danbones because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 8 2011 @ 09:08 PM
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it's a warning by the feds to the states.. HERE WE COME... ~!! As I've stated multiple times over the years that everyone is elated by the states allowing the 'medical marijuana' act...but

The Feds are STAUNCH about it STILL being a Schedule I drug..

excerpt from the PDF..

Based on the DHHS evaluation and all other relevant data, DEA has concluded that there
is no substantial evidence that marijuana should be removed from schedule I. A document
prepared by DEA addressing these materials in detail also is attached hereto. In short, marijuana
continues to meet the criteria for schedule I control under the CSA because:

1) Marijuana has a high potential for abuse. The DHHS evaluation and the additional
data gathered by DEA show that marijuana has a high potential for abuse.

2) Marijuana has no currently accepted medical use in treatment in the United States.
According to established case law, marijuana has no “currently accepted medical use”
because: the drug’s chemistry is not known and reproducible; there are no adequate
safety studies; there are no adequate and well-controlled studies proving efficacy; the
drug is not accepted by qualified experts; and the scientific evidence is not widely
available.

3) Marijuana lacks accepted safety for use under medical supervision. At present, there
are no U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA)-approved marijuana products, nor
is marijuana under a New Drug Application (NDA) evaluation at the FDA for any
indication. Marijuana does not have a currently accepted medical use in treatment in
the United States or a currently accepted medical use with severe restrictions. At this
time, the known risks of marijuana use have not been shown to be outweighed by
specific benefits in well-controlled clinical trials that scientifically evaluate safety and
efficacy.
DOJ source



posted on Jul, 8 2011 @ 09:10 PM
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i've seen that list before...i think right here on ATS...it 404'd of course
but it's a staggeringly large list of studies that show positive results



posted on Jul, 8 2011 @ 09:13 PM
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Pot: Feds have no medical purpose.



posted on Jul, 8 2011 @ 09:14 PM
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Originally posted by HUMBLEONE
Pot: Feds have no medical purpose.

not even sudafed?



posted on Jul, 8 2011 @ 09:17 PM
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I think it is very attractive to the Feds as they are in desperate need of additional income streams. The fastest, easiest way for them to make money from marijuana (on the books) without upsetting K Street is to crack down on dispensaries. Confiscate the weed (wonder where it will go from there) and fine the collectives and owners.



posted on Jul, 8 2011 @ 09:54 PM
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this was a response to a NINE YEAR OLD PETITION!




NORML had previously filed a similar rescheduling petition with the DEA in 1972, but was not granted a federal hearing on the issue until 1986. In 1988, DEA Administrative Law Judge Francis Young ruled that marijuana did not meet the legal criteria of a Schedule I prohibited drug and should be reclassified. Then-DEA Administrator John Lawn rejected Young’s determination, a decision the D.C. Court of Appeals eventually affirmed in 1994.

A subsequent petition was filed by former NORML Director Jon Gettman in 1995, but was rejected by the DEA in 2001.




Federal Government Reaffirms ‘Flat Earth’ Position Regarding Medical Cannabis


the conspiracy here is that Cannabis is currently scheduled incorrectly to keep it illegal and unobtainable. due to the controversy suroundly it's highly anticancerous, among other medicinal values, along with industrial hemp being a real source for biofuel that beats corn and other crops easily, it is easy to see that the scheduling of the Cannabis plant is a step taking by those involved in the benefits of prohibition to make prohibition of such a beneficial plant seem so logical on paper.

people are waking up, however, it is only a matter of time until prohibition ends and the time is drawing near as the age of information is allowing many people to become aware of the truth behind this plant and what it can do ( cure cancers and other illnesses, provide biofuels to end dependance on foreign fossile fuels )
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posted on Jul, 8 2011 @ 10:09 PM
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Yeah and the hypocrisy of the feds is bottomless

www.federalregister.gov...

does one hand even know what the other is doing?

www.rm3.us...

Oh yeah gotta pave the way for this

www.eastbayexpress.com...

Do they even realize they are becoming irrelevant to those who are ill and need this medicine?
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posted on Jul, 8 2011 @ 10:14 PM
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Okay if they want to play the "it has no medical purpose" card, then howabout for recreational use?? Straight up.

alcohol, by all means is "worse" than pot yet remains legal, howabout it?

then again it doesn't cause serious damage physically, mentally or to the people around you in the same way so it must stay illegal, right? pharma corp. won't make the funds necessary to maintain their oligarchy if everyone could just grow their own all-round drug. not to mention people owning their own minds.
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posted on Jul, 8 2011 @ 10:33 PM
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Yes. Great post. There is definitely a conspiracy at the highest levels aimed at keeping cannabis illegal and out of the hands of the masses. It may go all the way back to the beginning of Biblical society. In the Garden of Eden, the only two plants mentioned by name were the Tree of Knowledge and the Tree of Life. Adam and Eve were forbidden to take and eat of the fruit of the Tree of Knowledge. There was no such prohibition against taking and eating of the Tree of Life.

For the purposes of this discussion l will claim the Tree of Knowledge is the opium poppy and the Tree of Life is cannabis. Adam and Eve were enticed by the serpent to disobey God, taking and eating of the fruit of the Tree of Knowledge.



Genesis 3:7a

Then the eyes of both of them were opened, and they knew that they were naked;


They suffered an immediate loss of innocence and spiritual death. Disobeying God and ingesting the fruit separated them from His consumate presence. But this is not why they were banished from the Garden. They were banished from the Garden to keep them away from the Tree of Life.



Genesis 3:22-24a

Then the LORD God said, “Behold, the man has become like one of Us, to know good and evil. And now, lest he put out his hand and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live forever”— therefore the LORD God sent him out of the garden of Eden to till the ground from which he was taken. So He drove out the man;


Now look at our society today, God knows how many thousands of years later. Opiates are pushed on us by the establishment from childhood in the form of codeine based cough syrups, the 'best' pain killers are opiate based, synthetic heroin in the form of oxycodone is the fastest growing prescription drug addiction in the land. It seems original sin is the use of opiates. Partaking of the Tree of Knowledge.

But cannabis is a big no-no. Not that it is the fountain of youth, the allegory kind of breaks down there. But the establishment is dead set against it becoming mainstream. It has been shown conclusively to have restorative properties not found in any other plant. It improves appetite, elevates moods, fights infections and calms nerves. Not only that, but it can be used for food, clothing, shelter, and fuel. It is a wonder plant. The Tree of Life!



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posted on Jul, 9 2011 @ 02:06 AM
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All intents and purposes, the Feds should just admit that smoke particulates (from cigars, cigarettes, cannabis, etc.) can damage lungs. Simplistically, would you let babies inhale your second hand smoke? I think not.

So if the Feds say smoking/eating pot has no medical purpose, then maybe it's true. Look at how potheads handle themselves: they seem sluggish and don't look all that alert/responsive or giggle too much for their own good. So right there, something is wrong when pot is used.



posted on Jul, 9 2011 @ 02:11 AM
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Best thing to do is avoid sources with links from Cannabis web sites and link directly to the originating entity or publisher..I think they are really trying to accommodate but still weigh in federally instead of from a solid states rights stance. So in CYA form they quash links to Cannabis sites that are too "cheech and chong" so to speak.
Thing is plenty of research and facts to back up the MMJ stance and really argue for the legalization but as long as the feds take their schizophrenic approach IMO ATS is just playing cautious. Like don't piss off the mad man.
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