Michelle Bachmann signs pledge to ban pornography. The pledge also states that homosexuality is both

"HOMOSEXUALITY IS A CHOICE" --- True. Sometimes I like apples over oranges, DARK chocolate over creamy vanilla, etc.

"HOMOSEXUALITY IS LIKE POLYGAMY, ADULTERY, POLYANDRY" --- True: Some people get easily bored with the same deal.

"HOMOSEXUALITY IS A PUBLIC HEALTH RISK" --- True. Humans are designed with sexual organs meant to complement the "other half", not gross us out!

"SEX IS BETTER AFTER MARRIAGE" --- False: Are you people insane? That's a matter of opinion.

"PORNOGRAPHY SHOULD BE BANNED" --- False: Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. Nudity can be artistic if done tastefully. If not, ban those fugly ones!

"REJECT SHARIA ISLAM" --- False. Might as well reject Mormonism and other polygamistic relationships to "level" the playing field.

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I didn't realize this pledge was extreme. As long as people are NOT hurting each other and clean up their mess, I don't see how signing a pledge would help her presidential campaign.

Whilst Homosexually is definitely NOT a choice, it seems that Ignorance Is

What a waste, to live life so closed minded,

does Michele know how many people she will
place in the unemployment line when the porn
actors can no longer make a movie and feed
their families ???

Some make careers out of porn.
Some make enough money to put
them through college.
This will also cut out the revenue
from taxes paid on porn movie sales.
It will also cut out royalties paid to
the actors after the fact.

I bet she has no idea of the economic
implications of what she speaks.

reply to post by pikypiky

"HOMOSEXUALITY IS A CHOICE" --- True. Sometimes I like apples over oranges, DARK chocolate over creamy vanilla, etc.

It could be a choice. However I don't think it's a conscious choice...or one that we really have a say on. I don't know if that makes sense but consider Child Psychology. I think it's a deep rooted thing. Or at least not genetic. Doesn't make it wrong though.

"HOMOSEXUALITY IS LIKE POLYGAMY, ADULTERY, POLYANDRY" --- True: Some people get easily bored with the same deal.

O.o Care to elaborate?

"HOMOSEXUALITY IS A PUBLIC HEALTH RISK" --- True. Humans are designed with sexual organs meant to complement the "other half", not gross us out!

I have no words to explain how wrong you are. No words.

Originally posted by drew1749
reply to post by kro32

 

How about you prove me wrong and post why I'm wrong rather then call me a liar and in general just try to troll and derail my thread.

This will be my last message to you unless you get the info you claim I'm lacking.

I don't want to have the thread derailed.

Fair enough.

From your source:

The ninth step calls for the banning of “all forms” of pornography.

Now from the actual document she signed regarding the ninth step:

"Human protection of women and the innocent fruit conjugal intamacy- our next generation of American children- from human trafficking, sexual slavery, seduction into promiscuity, and all forms of pornography and prostitution, infanticide, abortion and other types of coercion or stolen innocence."

Now tell me what part of that does it say to ban pornography. It speaks about the protection of women and children which every politician should be worried about.

To those that claim homosexuality is a 'Choice' do you have any family member who is gay?

i have several, and many mates that are Likewise, and trust me they did not select to be Gay,

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Now that wasnt very nice now was it?
I think you should apologise, if you dont next time I do ya mum I wont use lube

reply to post by kro32


...so I'm a liar because my source is wrong?

Also I'm not focusing on that thing. The thing I care about is her stance against gay people.

Why? Because she can never ban porn even if she wanted to. But she could do something about gay people...just because there are that many ignorant people in the world.

Also thank you for responding with actual info. I'm sorry if I came off as rude it's just I can't stand being called a liar.

No problem but you did put the pornography in your op and you should know that people (like me) will check facts since I like to debate on the actual issue.

Didn't mean to derail your thread though

Thanks

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reply to post by kro32


Fair enough but I'd like to point out my OP wasn't far off.

In fact it was spot on on the homosexuality comment. Then about porn...well she still doesn't like it.

Originally posted by drew1749
reply to post by Helious

 

Ron Paul 2012? lol

If he doesn't get in (which he probably won't) my faith in humanity will drop...a lot.

While I agree with Ron Paul on most of his political ideas and his obvious loyalty to the Constitution....... He has not set the table to see a nomination within his party. He has made his views too main stream and obvious to his would be opposition.

Had he just been a tad bit smarter about where and when he spoke his true feelings we could have all been in for a great surprise but alas..... Now, everyone knows exactly where he is coming from and there is no hope that we would be elected, too many people in power stand too much to lose.

Originally posted by Darth_Prime
Whilst Homosexually is definitely NOT a choice, it seems that Ignorance Is

What a waste, to live life so closed minded,

First, "Whilst" is not a word. Second, this thread is not about homosexuality. If it were, I would tell you that yes, it is a choice, as is all sexual preference. This is not debatable, it is a fact. This topic is not here to debate that point and we agree, this women is a closed minded baboon who shockingly passed the bar somehow.

Originally posted by Helious

Originally posted by Darth_Prime
Whilst Homosexually is definitely NOT a choice, it seems that Ignorance Is

What a waste, to live life so closed minded,

First, "Whilst" is not a word. Second, this thread is not about homosexuality. If it were, I would tell you that yes, it is a choice, as is all sexual preference. This is not debatable, it is a fact. This topic is not here to debate that point and we agree, this women is a closed minded baboon who shockingly passed the bar somehow.

wow, you sound sure about that preference thing.

ya, she passed the bar, did you?

lol, some far left site spouts more BS and you people think it's kentucky blue grass.

um um!

Originally posted by fooks

Originally posted by Helious

Originally posted by Darth_Prime
Whilst Homosexually is definitely NOT a choice, it seems that Ignorance Is

What a waste, to live life so closed minded,

First, "Whilst" is not a word. Second, this thread is not about homosexuality. If it were, I would tell you that yes, it is a choice, as is all sexual preference. This is not debatable, it is a fact. This topic is not here to debate that point and we agree, this women is a closed minded baboon who shockingly passed the bar somehow.

wow, you sound sure about that preference thing.

ya, she passed the bar, did you?

lol, some far left site spouts more BS and you people think it's kentucky blue grass.

um um!

I am sure about the preference thing, it's not my personal opinion, it's fact. I'm not "guessing". I could be born really wanting to eat tomatoes all the time without exception, yet.... .I am still free to eat onions if I choose.

Actually yes, I have passed the bar, in fact, I have passed it 5,000 times as I am a bartender, I pass it every day.

And what in the hell are you going on about in that last sentence? I don't know how to respond because you formed that sentence like your from Kentucky (the bad side). Mostly cause you don't pay attention to detail. I don't have a left or right bone in my body, just common sense.

Maybe I could lend you some?

Originally posted by Helious

Originally posted by fooks

Originally posted by Helious

Originally posted by Darth_Prime
Whilst Homosexually is definitely NOT a choice, it seems that Ignorance Is

What a waste, to live life so closed minded,

First, "Whilst" is not a word. Second, this thread is not about homosexuality. If it were, I would tell you that yes, it is a choice, as is all sexual preference. This is not debatable, it is a fact. This topic is not here to debate that point and we agree, this women is a closed minded baboon who shockingly passed the bar somehow.

wow, you sound sure about that preference thing.

ya, she passed the bar, did you?

lol, some far left site spouts more BS and you people think it's kentucky blue grass.

um um!

I am sure about the preference thing, it's not my personal opinion, it's fact. I'm not "guessing". I could be born really wanting to eat tomatoes all the time without exception, yet.... .I am still free to eat onions if I choose.

Actually yes, I have passed the bar, in fact, I have passed it 5,000 times as I am a bartender, I pass it every day.

And what in the hell are you going on about in that last sentence? I don't know how to respond because you formed that sentence like your from Kentucky (the bad side). Mostly cause you don't pay attention to detail. I don't have a left or right bone in my body, just common sense.

Maybe I could lend you some?

comm on, i bet you haven't passed a bar in your life without stopping in. dude, left yourself wide open.

well your "personal" opinion is wrong, none of my current gay friends is gay for some reason other than

that's what they feel they are and i don't judge them on that.

i've had lot's of gay friends who were living a lie, wife, kids, the whole facade.

some risked and lost family support and jobs by comming "out".

i've known a few that have struggled with the realization and over compensated with drugs and booze and nothing i could do to help them.

they suffered big time. now i've never seen homosexuality tied to masochism because that is what you are saying.

they like the fact that society will not accept them and bask in the vilification and humiliation of their outward lifestyle?

BAAAAAAAAHHH in response to the kentucky blue grass.

that progressive site wrote a crappy lying hit piece to steer the gays toward the left, that's what i see

and why are you progressive straight people wanting to back that? think gays are stupid sheep?

or do you people really like them? doubt it. just more votes.

The MSM+NWO supports homosexuality because it's one more nail in the coffin of the traditional family. That's why your fears are totally unfounded. By opposing homosexuality (and pornography) Michelle has dug her own grave here. As for parsing the words of the document differently -- too late. This is politics, perception is reality, and the perception (and thus the reality) is dictated by the media. This stuff is too good, they will eat her alive with this.

You can talk about gay rights all you want, hold gay pride demonstrations all day, and I understand the nobility of that idea of equality. But you need to understand that what in a vacuum could be seen as a positive thing, to give rights to that minority, is ultimately being used for negative by the evil people behind the scenes. They don't care about gays, they care about controlling everyone, and this is one of their tools to achieve that ultimate end.

Same thing with feminism. Our country "progressed" by making women equal, but in reality the feminist movement was fully supported by the NWO crowd as one more attack on the traditional family. You've been told all your life how feminism was good, women in the workplace was good, and in a way it was good, at least in terms of the idealistic notion of equality. But the reality is a divorced nation, a nation of fatherless children, a nation where men have no rights in court and where the government can take your kids away for trivial offenses like spanking. It all ties together. The progressive agenda is a naive, idealistic agenda which actually brings about the NWO agenda. The people marching in the street over this have absolutely no clue they're being used, they are well-intentioned idiots like most everyone else.

Watch "An interview with Aaron Russo" and listen to what he says about women's lib. Note, I don't necessarily advocate taking away women's rights and homosexual rights. I don't think there are easy answers. But people need to know how they're being used and manipulated in order to fight against it.

She makes Sarah Palin look like a centrist who is nothing more than a blow up doll.

reply to post by Helious

I could be born really wanting to eat tomatoes all the time without exception, yet.... .I am still free to eat onions if I choose.

I suggest you look up the definition of homosexuality. It is the WANTING that counts. If a homosexual chooses not to have homosexual relationships, he is still a homosexual, because he is still attracted to men.

Homosexuality (sexual orientation) is NOT a choice. Only homosexual sex and relationships (acts) are a choice.

What is their definition of pornography?
Will they ban the homoerotic "Ben-Hur" and "Spartacus"?
Could they please explain what is pornography, and can I keep my US Physique Pictorials of wholesome men in gym and nature?
Can I keep my Bibles with pictures of hunky topless men?
Will they ban the Song of Songs for straight people?
Surely pornography is in the eye of the beholder.
I think they just want more people to stop fantasizing and do the real thing again.
I can understand that, but it's quite dangerous these days.

It seems there's an explosion of teen pregnancies in several countries recently.

Nothing so far promises an intervention in this tragedy, and I don't think criminalizing porn is gonna help.