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WAR: Major U.S Offensive Begins In Najaf

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posted on Aug, 12 2004 @ 01:10 AM
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The expected offensive in Najaf has begun.The aim of this operation is to disarm the militia of Muqtada al-Sadr.Intense fighting is being reported in the holy city of Najaf.Iraqi forces are the only ones allowed to enter the holy sites in the city.
 


Black smoke wafted through the skies over Najaf on Thursday as the U.S. military launched a major offensive to crush the resistance led by Iraqi militants loyal to renegade Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr.

Calling the operation a critical test for the interim government, Iraqi Interior Ministry spokesman Sabah Kadhim said fierce fighting is taking place around the sacred Imam Ali Mosque in the city center, with Iraqi forces taking the lead in that area.

CNN

Please visit the link provided for the complete story.


Here we go...time for all sides to put up or shut up. Its about time that we backed up words with deeds.
This should have been done in Falluja as well.
I expect a swift attack, including into the mosque area, and a strike at muqtada al sadar himself.

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posted on Aug, 12 2004 @ 01:12 AM
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Good Luck and Good Hunting to the coalition troops participating in the battle. Hopefully the delays won't hurt them too badly.



posted on Aug, 12 2004 @ 01:14 AM
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www.cnn.com...



CNN's Matthew Chance, embedded with U.S. Marines, said the assault by the U.S. military includes tanks, heavy weapons and armored vehicles.


Here is the answer to Al Sadar's demand that we leave, and let him and his band of thugs take over.



posted on Aug, 12 2004 @ 01:18 AM
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Yeah! Lets stick that liberation right where it hurts!!!!



Umm sorry, I think i'm in the wrong film.



posted on Aug, 12 2004 @ 05:08 AM
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The millitants in question in Najaf, under their blind religious zeal led by al-sadar....agreed a week ago to a cease fire....which they broke with mortar attacks....
Well, they asked for a fight, now theyve got one.

As far as the mosque goes....the USA would not just bomb the place...there is no use to that other than to anger a bunch of people...
I think you'll see the USA forces cover and enable the Iraqi forces to get up to the mosque, then Iraqi forces will storm it on the ground.

We've given plenty of warnings prior and in fact drove around declaring our intentions to sack the city on loudspeakers, so that any "innocent civilians" can get out of the way....now 2 days later here we come...if your still in the city, you cant say you werent warned.

Millitants...please enjoy the view of the best tank in the world, up close and personally. That is of course unless youre enjoying the missile demonstration from the helicopters already.



posted on Aug, 12 2004 @ 06:02 AM
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Ja achtung, ve vill come unt show you ze tru minink of freedom.

Got Bless Amerika.

BTW on a more serious front i would't believe a sigle word of "embedded" journalists, the word "embedded" suggest they are in bed with something (in this case the US army... eeeww)



posted on Aug, 12 2004 @ 06:15 AM
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Textbook tactics the Marines are sealing off the city so only they can go in and no one can come out, also the marines are attacking key positions to weaken the cities defense and are getting their tanks Bradly’s and humvees in place. This is textbook the US military loves the night we have every single advantage in the night we can see the and they cant see us. The marines are setting everything up and are just waiting till the sun goes down to begin the Arse whooping of al saders army. Al-sader says he is not afraid to die yet he hides like little girl inside a mosque and tells other to fight for him
I guess Al-saders wish will come true he will be killed after all. GO MARINES!!! Even though I am an Army man



posted on Aug, 12 2004 @ 07:08 AM
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Originally posted by Corinthas
Ja achtung, ve vill come unt show you ze tru minink of freedom.

Got Bless Amerika.

BTW on a more serious front i would't believe a sigle word of "embedded" journalists, the word "embedded" suggest they are in bed with something (in this case the US army... eeeww)

Nice attempt at spin there buddy - but you are wrong.
First off, "embed" does NOT have anything to do with being "in bed with something".
Get a dictionary and look the word up.
Having embedded reporters has since WW2 been the best way for the people at home to get news of fighting.
Whether or not the reporting is accurate depends on the leanings of the reporter him/herself.

EMBED
To fix firmly in a surrounding mass: embed a post in concrete; fossils embedded in shale.
To enclose snugly or firmly.
To cause to be an integral part of a surrounding whole: “a minor accuracy embedded in a larger untruth” (Ian Jack).
Biology. To enclose (a specimen) in a supporting material before sectioning for microscopic examination.



posted on Aug, 12 2004 @ 07:19 AM
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These people in Najaf are savages - they would plunge Iraq back a thousand years - truly the world is a far far better place without them.



posted on Aug, 12 2004 @ 07:20 AM
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Well you know the saying; "Establish world peace, kill everyone."



posted on Aug, 12 2004 @ 07:23 AM
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In order to have long term peace it must be necessary for civilised armies to fight those that would have long term jihad.



posted on Aug, 12 2004 @ 08:04 AM
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further,

Iraqis seek Sadr meeting to end Najaf fighting




"We are moving fast now to contain the crisis and end the bloodshed," he said.

"We hope to find a solution soon."

Najaf's Governor Adnan al-Zorfi confirms the initiative and says the council is awaiting the response of Sadr's office.

However, he stresses the militia must leave the holy city without preconditions.

"We do not negotiate with militia and we have no intention of negotiating with them," Mr Zorfi said.

"The situation is becoming unbearable, the militia must leave now."

But the immediate prospects for a stop to the US assault look bleak as the Sadr camp issue its call for US troops to retreat from Najaf before any negotiations would take place.

"The Americans must leave first, then we would be open to negotiations," Sheikh Ali al-Sumeisim said.

www.abc.net.au...
Does anyone believe the 'militia' will be allowed to lay down their weapons and just go back
to wherever they came from, only to start another fight in a month or two. Yeah, right.

Sanc'.
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posted on Aug, 12 2004 @ 08:16 AM
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Originally posted by Mo0se
Having embedded reporters has since WW2 been the best way for the people at home to get news of fighting.
Whether or not the reporting is accurate depends on the leanings of the reporter him/herself.


Thanks for the definition btw.


Did you mean to say that "Having embedded reporters has since WW2 been the best way for the people at home to get THE news of fighting THE GOVT/ARMY WANTS THEM TO HAVE?"

The accuracy of reporting depends (nowadays at least) on wther he "embeds" himself in the first place.

This is getting off topic- Sorry.

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posted on Aug, 12 2004 @ 08:25 AM
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This attack is going to bring more be.ings, more terrorist alerts, more instability in the region and more resentment against America "liberators"

Nice score US, this leader gets kill another will raised up to fill his place and life will go on.


Now I see this president goal all alone, the extermination of the Iraqi citizens in Iraq, if you kill them all they will not attack and they will not complain. Right?

After all the only good thing in that country is their oil.



posted on Aug, 12 2004 @ 08:40 AM
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Originally posted by marg6043
This attack is going to bring more be.ings, more terrorist alerts, more instability in the region and more resentment against America "liberators"


No, if they are not going to pull out, its time to take this Al Sader guy down. Yes another despot will try to fill the void, and we will have to take him out to. This may sound simplisitc, but unless we are going to pull out, we cannot continue to challange our forces without retribution. We are going to get resentment, be.ings etc. no matter what Better to take action then sit on our butts (That for the French to do).



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posted on Aug, 12 2004 @ 08:51 AM
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FredT,

Maybe all this make sense to you but for me a mother of two draft age children it is not.

And for the mothers of the fallen soldiers coming in body bags neither.

I am sorry to said but enough is enough I do not think this president has any Idea of what his goal in Iraq is anymore, its started hazy and now is just hard to see anymore.



posted on Aug, 12 2004 @ 09:01 AM
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muktada al-sadr with undreds of his supporters retreated and now they are surrounded by marines in Ali Shrine.He threatend that they will blow them up if marines attack.

Why US didn't use non-lethal weapns to shock them??for example some kind of gases or sonic weapons?? etc??

It's strange...



posted on Aug, 12 2004 @ 09:05 AM
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That might not be a bad idea. The Russians used some sort of knockout gas to great effect in the theatre hostage situation.



posted on Aug, 12 2004 @ 09:07 AM
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It killed half the hostages too!



posted on Aug, 12 2004 @ 09:16 AM
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Originally posted by muppet
That might not be a bad idea. The Russians used some sort of knockout gas to great effect in the theatre hostage situation.


They aerisolized Fentanyl (a narcodic) forgot the antidote (narcan) and ended up killing a huge amount of people. The best course of action is to starve them out. Last thing we need is a Iraqi version of Waco. Just set up camp around them and let them bake in the sun.....



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