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Originally posted by thedoctorswife
I just find it hard to believe sometimes that the US government would even let us know that somewhere like this exists?
Originally posted by zorgon
Originally posted by thedoctorswife
I just find it hard to believe sometimes that the US government would even let us know that somewhere like this exists?
They didn't... it was Bob Lazar that let us know where it was. Before that the government denied its existence.
His question is entirely relevant as Mr. Friedman predicates his entire credibility on the fact that he is a nuclear physicist. In fact, to this day, he wastes no opportunity to remind people of the fact during every interview, lecture and convention he attends. Frankly he has ridden that oxcart since 1970 while, oddly enough, never being questioned on that.
Originally posted by EyeHeartBigfoot
Originally posted by Mr_skepticc
My question would be this, or more of a fact check for him to ackowledge. Wrong or Right?
Mr Friedman isn't it true sir that you have NOT worked as a "nuclear physicist" since somtime before 1970?
Mr Friedman isn't it true that the only career you have had since 1970 has been writing ufo novels and the Roswell Research you swear by, also the speaking engagements you get paid to do?
Just because you have the title nuclear physicist does not mean you are special, smarter than everyone else sir. The truth is you have no clue, and no proof of what you say other than people telling stories.
I know that you have called Bob Lazaar a hoaxer, well sir thats exactly what I say about you.
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Originally posted by dethduck
His question is entirely relevant as Mr. Friedman predicates his entire credibility on the fact that he is a nuclear physicist. In fact, to this day, he wastes no opportunity to remind people of the fact during every interview, lecture and convention he attends. Frankly he has ridden that oxcart since 1970 while, oddly enough, never being questioned on that.
Nuclear Physicist-Lecturer Stanton T. Friedman received his BSc. and MSc. Degrees in physics from the University of Chicago in 1955 and 1956. He was employed for 14 years as a nuclear physicist by such companies as GE, GM, Westinghouse, TRW Systems, Aerojet General Nucleonics, and McDonnell Douglas working in such highly advanced, classified, eventually cancelled programs as nuclear aircraft, fission and fusion rockets, and various compact nuclear powerplants for space and terrestrial applications.
He became interested in UFOs in 1958, and since 1967 has lectured about them at more than 600 colleges and 100 professional groups in 50 U.S. states, 10 Canadian provinces and 18 other countries in addition to various nuclear consulting efforts. He has published more than 90 UFO papers and has appeared on hundreds of radio and TV programs including on Larry King in 2007 and twice in 2008, and many documentaries.
Originally posted by zorgon
The time line seems off... and it does seem odd you would give up a carreer in nuclear physics to become a UFOlogist
You really don't like others questioning your beliefs, do you? Maybe you should look at yourself a little closer before you go calling other people haters.
Originally posted by Imtor
Originally posted by zorgon
The time line seems off... and it does seem odd you would give up a carreer in nuclear physics to become a UFOlogist
What's weird about it? Do you think UFOlogists are some crazy people that were released from the psychiatry? Now I get it this isn't just skeptics here but haters too, haters gonna hate.
Anyway, only one question per person, moderators?
Originally posted by dethduck
You really don't like others questioning your beliefs, do you? Maybe you should look at yourself a little closer before you go calling other people haters.
Friedman might be your little hero but it's illogical to assume that everyone else will fawn over him unquestioningly. Again, that's part of what "Deny Ignorance" means.
Originally posted by cerebralassassins
thank you for the opportunity but i do not require someone else to verify the existence of non terrestrial life.
And yet, you immediately attack anyone who dares to question the credibility of Mr. Friedman
Originally posted by Imtor
reply to post by dethduck
I'm not a believer, sorry for you.
And here, again, you resort to personal attacks filed with assumptions. You do not know me any more than I know you, yet you claim to know what I do and do not believe? Being open minded does not preclude questioning what you are presented with.
I just make connections between facts and give them a 'possible' mark unlike you close-minded for who everything is lie, liers, hoaxes, lanterns, flares, kind of pathetic.
And yet, I agree. I find it far from believable that all we see these days are chinese lanterns and CGI. I leave the possibility open that there is more, but, of course, you've already made that judgement for me haven't you oh so open-mindedly. Now here's the kicker. Mr. Friedman had consistently put everything without exception into the "Grey Basket™©", everything that is but Roswell and the Betty & Barney Hill abductions. The two cases he brought forth nearly 40 years ago now and generally all that he built his fame on.
I've said it many times, one should nail in their heads that when so many people are reporting things, then apparently some objects are seen and their behavior should tell that it's not always balloons flares or whatever stupid reasons you give. So one should not believe everything on the internet but should not be ignorant twat who refuses one damn thing to say 'possible'. Im in the middle get it? In many places I call the videos hoaxes, in some I just think they could not.
Seriously, show some integrity and refrain from the insults. It does nothing to bolster your viewpoints.
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And the postings that you've attacked, and that is what you did, were indeed valid questions that apparently you did not like. Do not come in here playing moderator and passing judgement on others. We already have people for that. This is a forum of differing opinions, either respect those differences or ignore them.
Originally posted by Imtor
reply to post by dethduck
This thread is about questions to him, not haters or skeptics to discuss if he's a lier. I responded to what appeared to be hateful posts about him in a thread for questions. Whether he's a lier or not you can't say, keep the hate to yourself, else this is just trolling when the point of the thread is people to just ask questions not talk about his credibility... If you don't believe him, why post here at all? You (all who do so) are trollingedit on 8-7-2011 by Imtor because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Rising Against
Originally posted by cerebralassassins
thank you for the opportunity but i do not require someone else to verify the existence of non terrestrial life.
What makes you think he's "verifying" it for us?
He's someone who's been in the field for a long time, and has a lot of knowledge on the subject. So, for this reason it's great to have his insight like this. But, nowhere does it say his word is to be blindly accepted still..
I think he'd prefer we at least think for ourselves here.
Anyway, I'll think of a question sometime later on once I have time to really think about it (and come up with one no one's thought of thus far).