I'll be the first to flag this. I agree with the title of this thread wholeheartedly. Police are not above the law and should not be granted greater
rights of privacy than the average citizen. There are far too many cops willing to abuse their authority and engage in criminal acts to allow them
immunity from being recorded. If a cop is honest and ethical and he should have no problem having his actions recorded.
Caught in the act - Why citizens MUST retain the right to film police & government officials (Stosse, page 1
reply posted on 7-7-2011 @ 12:25 PM by morder1
reply to post by nyk537
Private citizens have the right to privacy...
Public officials dont(While uniformed/on the clock)...Once they take on civilian clothes, then sure they have the right to privacy
Great video find... Modern
Private citizens have the right to privacy...
Public officials dont(While uniformed/on the clock)...Once they take on civilian clothes, then sure they have the right to privacy
Great video find... Modern
reply posted on 7-7-2011 @ 12:36 PM by LockNLoad
reply to post by nyk537
I disagree, and the reason is, as stated in the video the police and other government officials ultimately work for us (the tax payers) and we should have the ability to monitor and document their on duty performance just like any other employer.
I disagree, and the reason is, as stated in the video the police and other government officials ultimately work for us (the tax payers) and we should have the ability to monitor and document their on duty performance just like any other employer.
reply posted on 7-7-2011 @ 02:12 PM by apacheman
Remember what Robert A. Heinlein, speaking through the character Lazarus Long said:
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To combat this, videotaping them at work is an absolute necessity. They have NO privacy rights when they're on the job, nor whenever they are in public view, same as everyone else, so there shouldn't be an issue.
In a mature society, “civil servant” is semantically equal to “civil master.”
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To combat this, videotaping them at work is an absolute necessity. They have NO privacy rights when they're on the job, nor whenever they are in public view, same as everyone else, so there shouldn't be an issue.
reply posted on 7-7-2011 @ 07:57 PM by Lemon.Fresh
Reply to post by BirdOfillOmen
At one of the departments I know of, all the officers had a key to the recorder in the trunk. They took their own videos out and turned them in at the end of the day.
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At one of the departments I know of, all the officers had a key to the recorder in the trunk. They took their own videos out and turned them in at the end of the day.
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reply posted on 7-7-2011 @ 08:01 PM by HermitShip
reply to post by Malcram
I agree. I also think that this is still passing of the responsibility of the People to police their employees. If we leave it entirely to the departments; the video recording equipment, then the same thing can happen. I also think that education would be in order, and we need very specific classes at the academies teaching Civil Rights, and the Bill of Rights, as well as the Constitution, and the Declaration of Independence.
Some type of rules as well. If the Officer commits a Felony, he is gone, and can never be a cop again.
3 Strike rule for all other infractions below Felonies. Then they are gone, and cant be a cop again.
Instead of looking for People of lower intelligence, the opposite should be true.
Police Unions need to be done away with. The police work for the Government, the Government works for the People, they dont need Unions. Pay raises should include Personal evaluations by Senior Officers. Senior Officer pay rate determined by public oversight and administration councils that would run the departments ultimately. It seems councils made up of the public need to start forming for all areas of these endeavors.
I agree. I also think that this is still passing of the responsibility of the People to police their employees. If we leave it entirely to the departments; the video recording equipment, then the same thing can happen. I also think that education would be in order, and we need very specific classes at the academies teaching Civil Rights, and the Bill of Rights, as well as the Constitution, and the Declaration of Independence.
Some type of rules as well. If the Officer commits a Felony, he is gone, and can never be a cop again.
3 Strike rule for all other infractions below Felonies. Then they are gone, and cant be a cop again.
Instead of looking for People of lower intelligence, the opposite should be true.
Police Unions need to be done away with. The police work for the Government, the Government works for the People, they dont need Unions. Pay raises should include Personal evaluations by Senior Officers. Senior Officer pay rate determined by public oversight and administration councils that would run the departments ultimately. It seems councils made up of the public need to start forming for all areas of these endeavors.
reply posted on 7-7-2011 @ 08:21 PM by Gorman91
reply to post by ModernAcademia
You know what's cool? They can't stop it. Even if they banned cell phones, anyone with half a brain could strip the exterior, mount it to a suitcase, a tie, or a boot, and no body would ever know. And if they ignored such proof because it was under illegal means, sucks for that government. They're dead.
Basically government, end of your world. Straighten up or retire before you're caught.
You know what's cool? They can't stop it. Even if they banned cell phones, anyone with half a brain could strip the exterior, mount it to a suitcase, a tie, or a boot, and no body would ever know. And if they ignored such proof because it was under illegal means, sucks for that government. They're dead.
Basically government, end of your world. Straighten up or retire before you're caught.
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