Originally posted by junior2991
Because the foundation on which Jesus Christ lies is the catholic and christian churches, which have been proven to be obstacles in mankind
development and also responsible of millions of deaths since its beginnings.
I think you got it upside down. Are you seriously claiming that the "foundation of Jesus Christ" is the Catholic Church, and not the other way
around? Because the Catholic Church really only appeared some centuries after Christ.
The Church has never been an obstacle in mankind's development. This is a myth. If anything, mankind owe most of its development to the Church. Know
you that, before the industrial revolution, virtually all scientific development was sponsored by the Church. There was no economic incentive to
pursue science, and it was considered a spiritual calling, restricted to priests and dilletant aristocrats. Moreso, also education was under the
responsibility of the Church, since there was no economical incentive to educate the masses. Pick any scientist responsible for a revolutionary
discovered that lived before Mendel, inclusive. He was a priest, or he was working for the Church, comissioned.
The Church has never been responsible for "millions of deaths." Even the most bloodthirsty moment of the Catholic Church, that is, the Inquisition,
only killed around 1200 people in hundreds of years. All of them were trialed. All of them were found guilty. All of it is documented. Comparatively,
French Reign of Terror killed around 10000, in less than an year.
Therefore, if such a being exists it wouldn't allow its main followers and the people that represent and spread the BS, murder people and be
extremely rich for thousands of years. I don't think that your GOD has a right not to be ridicule. I don't see he's glory and justice anywhere do
I am sure that you have your own reasons to believe that God shouldn't
allow those things to happen. I'd like, however, to know what basis
you have to say that He wouldn't
. Do you know God so personally that you can claim with absolute certainty how He would or would not act?
And all the man made "GODS" should show up and try to do something about what is unfolding in this world if they exists. which sadly for you,
hallucinating people will never happen.
Oh, don't worry. He will. Everything seems to be going according to the plan, unfold on the Bible.
If religion didn't exist the world will be a much better place. Imagine all the time being wasted worshiping GODS..
History proves you otherwise. Notably is the quote of the atheist historian Will Durant: "There is no significant example in history, before our
time, of a society successfully maintaining moral life without the aid of religion."
For instance, Galileo said that the earth wasn't flat but the church killed him because he didn't want to take his words back. and then many years
after the church proclaimed that the earth was indeed round in shape. how funny!
I am appalled. Is that what passes for knowledge of history today? There was never a moment in time where people believed that the Earth was flat.
Considerations that the Earth was a sphere are as old as Ancient Egypt. Galileo never made any claims that the Earth wasn't flat. Galileo proved that
the Ptolemaic model of Earth as the center of the Universe was wrong. He proved such by using the observed positions of Venus and Mars on the sky and
comparing them to the Ptolemaic predictions. Then he proposed another model of the Sun as the center of the Universe, which was still wrong, but at
least matched the observations.
And then he wrote a quite offensive book called "Dialogues" on which he very much offended the Pope (who at that moment in time was also the king)
and got arrested by it and ordered to stop talking about his ideas until they could be independently verified, under penalty of prison, and he agreed
to it. And they were independently verified and the result was that, although his ideas were promising and deserved further considerations, there
wasn't enough proof to warrant them as correct yet.
And then Galileo got somewhat upset that his cherished ideas weren't promptly accepted and went on to teach them as truth on the College he lectured
on, breaking a direct order from the king himself to not to do it, and for that he was house arrested and his books were banned and further research
on the topic was banned. Point is, if Galileo himself admitted that he didn't have proof of his ideas. He wasn't, however, killed (that was