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Originally posted by IPILYA
reply to post by whaaa
I don't see it as materialism, so much as I see it as that materialism being bigger and better than our fellow man. That never ending attempt to feel more important. It seems to me that this civilization is set up to pay the thinkers vastly more than the physical laborers, and that for some reason, makes the thinker more productive and more important than the laborer in societies eye. In other words, The less actual work one does, the more they get paid to do so, usually off the back of the ones who do work more. I am not saying that those people payed to think simply sit around and only think, but you can see, in the quality and length of life span, it is much different between a worker and a thinker.
Lets say an architect gets paid $50,000 for a two week project. In that same 2 week period the laborer that is doing the building makes $3,0000. Multiply that by a team of twelve(36,000) + the building company profit of $14,000 making 50,000( General numbers to show example).
As for the value I think it is fear based. In fact I think the process of life today is fear based.
Most people have a conscious or subconscious fear of having nothing. Not just the material, that most have but also shelter and food in more than a few cases. There are very few people completely off the grid, living completely self sufficient without the fear of loosing the land on which they live. In fact, at least in the United States, to do this is illegal in most parts. You must have plumbing at the very least in order to live there and in a lot of places electricity is also required, forcing you to work within the system, which also creates the fear of retribution of not maintaining. It is becoming easier today with alternative energy but even in that you must work within the system to pay for it all(In most cases) and maintenance, not to mention the inspections that pop up from time to time and the fear associated with being judged.
How do you work within the system without fear of judgment and ridicule from multiple angles?
Some may say "I don't care I will live my life the way I want" but that can and most often will lead to conflict and possible incarceration(legal kidnapping) or death. But the answer always comes back to having enough money to pay the people, who have the most fear of loosing their lively hood, which creates greed and hording. Through their fear, they assume if they carry the bigger stick, without compassion, they have some semblance of control.
The downward spiral of the corruption of the spirit.edit on 7-7-2011 by IPILYA because: (no reason given)
Technology is a whole other question. Some of what you propose sounds to me like trading human masters for machine masters. Our lives now have been reduced to servicing the machines we've become dependent upon. We need to actually scale back the amount of tech we use to reach a certain level of sustainability, something I don't think is possible given our current technology. Tech needs to be simplified and made more environmentally friendly (an oxymoron, I know) but it's what we use and we cannot simply abandon it.
When people are in danger of being shot for stealing a few tools or a bicycle we have definitely lost our way as spiritual beings. That is something we cannot be if we attach too much importance to things and possessions. Star and flag
PS - Why are Adam and Eve wearing animal skins? They covered themselves in fig leaves.