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reply posted on 23-11-2004 @ 05:21 PM by blue cell
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I think one of the most heroic action's on the battlefield was when a South Korean marine corps plattoon wiped out an elite North Vietminese army
regiment there were only two Korean's dead and more than 400 NVA soldiers dead. 
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reply posted on 23-11-2004 @ 06:06 PM by Creepy
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heroes arent hard to find in the Marine Corps...heres a story of one of those heroes fighting in Falluja....
Marine sacrifices his life for others in Fallujah
Sgt. Rafael Peralta built a reputation as a man who always put his Marines' interests ahead of his own.
He showed that again, when he made the ultimate sacrifice of his life Tuesday, by shielding his fellow Marines from a grenade blast.
"It's stuff you hear about in boot camp, about World War II and Tarawa Marines who won the Medal of Honor," said Lance Cpl. Rob Rogers, 22, of
Tallahassee, Fla., one of Peralta's platoon mates in 1st Platoon, Alpha Company, 1st Battalion, 3rd Marine Regiment.
Peralta, 25, as platoon scout, wasn't even assigned to the assault team that entered the insurgent safe house in northern Fallujah, Marines said.
Despite an assignment that would have allowed him to avoid such dangerous duty, he regularly asked squad leaders if he could join their assault teams,
they said.
One of the first Marines to enter the house, Peralta was wounded in the face by rifle fire from a room near the entry door, said Lance Cpl. Adam
Morrison, 20, of Tacoma, who was in the house when Peralta was first wounded.
Moments later, an insurgent rolled a fragmentation grenade into the area where a wounded Peralta and the other Marines were seeking cover.
As Morrison and another Marine scrambled to escape the blast, pounding against a locked door, Peralta grabbed the grenade and cradled it into his
body, Morrison said. While one Marine was badly wounded by shrapnel from the blast, the Marines said they believe more lives would have been lost if
not for Peralta's selfless act.
"He saved half my fire team," said Cpl. Brannon Dyer, 27, of Blairsville, Ga.
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reply posted on 15-3-2005 @ 08:36 PM by Hellmutt
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Originally posted by mad scientist
The funny thing about the raid on the heavy water plant, is that in hindsight it made absolutely no difference to the war. The Nazi's were never
close to building a bomb, they couldn't even build decent reactor.
Well, it seems like Hitler actually did build a bomb. With the heavy water to build more of them it could have made a big difference to the
war.
Bloomberg: Hitler Tested Grenade-Sized Atomic Bomb, German Researcher
Says
"Scientists working for Adolf Hitler tested a small atomic bomb, shaped like a grenade and designed to be fired from a howitzer"
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reply posted on 17-3-2005 @ 04:46 PM by fritz
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Greatest Heroic Feat
What a brilliant thread guys. Absolutely outstanding contributions thus far and I'm so impressed.
1st: Thermopylae
300 Spartans. Actual battle where 300 men formed a Phalanx and held back 100,000 Persians and allies. They actually only (only?) fought 10,000 - but
to the death.
2nd: Rorke's Drift.
24th Regiment of Foot - later South Wales Borderers, held off shed loads of Zulu Impis and the battle - Hollywood notwithstanding, was fought
almost entirely at night. Must have been terrifying!
3rd: Private John Freeman VC
My Grandfather - Private John Freeman VC - 5th/9th Lancers - at Acre, India, during the Indian Mutiny. After his troop was ambushed and the troop
officer was shot and wounded, he [John] went to his aid and fought off the enemy cavalry - killing their leader in the process.
4th: Anders Lasson VC & Bar
Special Boat Squadron - 2nd or 3rd SAS (Sacred Greek Squadron) during WWII. Fighting Germand and Italians throughout the Greek Islands.
5th: Fallschirmjaegers FJR 1 and FJR 5 - Crete
Anybody who jumps headlong into a heavily defended airbase with no support, deserves respect.
6th: Arnhem - A Bridge Too Far.
Nuff said. Tremendous heroism against overwhelming odds.
7th: Dien Bein Phu - La Legion Etranger
French Foreign Legion parachuting into action to prop up a 'no win' battle.
8th: Over-run of SF base at Lang Vei and 77 Day Seige of Khe Sanh.
Got the official book by Marine Corps. Brilliant. 5,000 Marines, South Vietnamese Rangers a few CIDG's and Green Berets held off 2 full NVA divisions
for 77 days. Outstanding!
9th: Battle of Mirbat - Oman - 1972
Cpl Labalaba - a massive Fijian 'B' Sqn - 22 SAS. Very long story. Went to help his fried in gunpit. Cpl Tobin was firing 25 pdr at Adoo almost over
open sights who was badly wounded. Laba took over the gun after patching Tobin up but was severly wounded. He continued to fight until he was hit in
the jaw. No longer able to fire the 25 pdr, he used his SLR until a round passed through his throat. An account can be read in 'Soldier I' and other
publications such as 'Immediate Action' though I think Richard Mitchel waffles!
Laba died of his wounds and to this date, MOD civil servants have refused to sanction the VC for his actions. WRITE TO YOUR MP!
10th: Colonel Joe Carne - 1 Glosters - Imjim River and Gloster Hill - Korea 1952.
Walked up and down the line with nothing more than swagger stick, encouraging his men - under very heavy fire from attacking Chinese infantry.
When Chinese attacked Glost Hill in force, Col Carne picked up a fallen rifle and several grenades and, charging several Chinese machinegun positions,
single handedly wiped them out. For these selfless actions, he was justifiably awarded the VC.
Not sure of the dates but their courage and selfless devotion to their fallen friends and comrades makes the 2 Delta Force snipers in Somalia stand
out. You must have seen the film Blackhawk Down, maybe played the game. But did any of you watch the real story the other night on 5?
They are real heroes and get my vote!
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reply posted on 18-3-2005 @ 02:51 AM by rogue1
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I have another to add although it isn't one action. The US SOG ( Studies and Observation Group ) commandos formed in Vietnam are the most couragous
men I've ever read about. They were tasked to go into Cambodia and Loas to pinpoint NVA postions. SOG used 3 man teams with the code name for he
leader being 1-0 ( one -zero) and the other 2 members 1-1 and 1-2 respectively.
The missions they went on are some of the most dangerous ever conducted by any soldiers. It was so dangerous that they were expected to be landed in a
hot LZ 50% of the time.
The NVA considered these men such a serious threat that they deployed their only purpose built special operations unit to speciafically hunt thees
men.
Many of these men were never heard from again, and there fate reamins unknown.
As a unit these men are exceptional, the courage and valour displayed are unmatched. These men went out on missions where they knew before hand the
chancess of never coming back were better than average, yet they still went out.
It is estimated that up to 100, 000 NVA soldiers were deployed on the Ho Chi Minh trail in Loas and Cambodia to counter these exceptional
individuals.
PS. SOG were the first to ever use a HALO jump operaitionally. A 3 man SOG team parachuted into the ' Fish Hook ' in Cambodia; as every LZ by this
time was covered by NVA guns
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reply posted on 18-3-2005 @ 08:02 AM by Kidbored
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Although these are all brave actions, you are forgetting one very important battle:
Charge of the Light Brigade
At the battle of Balaclava between 661 and 673 Cavalry armed only with sabres charged 50 Russian artillery and 20 battalions of infantry, when the
light brigade eventually took the position there were 195 men still with horses. The brigade had lost 118 men killed and 127 wounded; 362 horses were
killed. Because of these the VC was invented and it is made from the metal of cannon captured in the Crimean war.
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reply posted on 18-3-2005 @ 02:21 PM by fritz
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Private Johnston Beharry
Having read several newspaper accounts of this undoubtably brave young man's actions, I am at a loss to see why he has been awarded the coveted
Victoria Cross.
Yes his actions were incredibly brave, but no more so than a Colour Sergeant who did something similar a couple of months ago. He was not awarded the
VC.
Apart from the fact that the Victoria Cross may only be awarded for 'acts of heroism and bravery in the face of the enemy', how can this be
justified, as the Prime Minister announced towards the end of last year, that the war was over?
Surely our forces out there are carrying out policing duties in support of the Iraqi government?
Othere, including my grandfather have been awarded the VC for doing less, but far more have been refused for carrying out even braver acts of selfless
courage in the Gulf War.
Is there a hidden agenda? Why have the SAS operatives in Afghanistan and Iraq not been awarded VC's or is this yet another cynical attempt by this
government to pander to certain politically correct and interested parties or, as I feel, this award is being used to give the army something in order
to keep them (General Mike Jackson) quiet?
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reply posted on 20-3-2005 @ 10:30 PM by rogue1
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Originally posted by fritz
Having read several newspaper accounts of this undoubtably brave young man's actions, I am at a loss to see why he has been awarded the coveted
Victoria Cross.
Yes his actions were incredibly brave, but no more so than a Colour Sergeant who did something similar a couple of months ago. He was not awarded the
VC.
Apart from the fact that the Victoria Cross may only be awarded for 'acts of heroism and bravery in the face of the enemy', how can this be
justified, as the Prime Minister announced towards the end of last year, that the war was over?
Surely our forces out there are carrying out policing duties in support of the Iraqi government?
Othere, including my grandfather have been awarded the VC for doing less, but far more have been refused for carrying out even braver acts of selfless
courage in the Gulf War.
Is there a hidden agenda? Why have the SAS operatives in Afghanistan and Iraq not been awarded VC's or is this yet another cynical attempt by this
government to pander to certain politically correct and interested parties or, as I feel, this award is being used to give the army something in order
to keep them (General Mike Jackson) quiet?
 the VC is just as political as any other medal, the Brit Army needed a morale boost so they awarded a VC.
As for the SAS, they haven't seen too much action in Afghanistan nothing worthy of a VC. Besides Afghanistan is a backwater now with a very low level
operations.
PS. The last soldier to win the VC was an Australian soldier in Vietnam. However we don't use the VC anymore, we have our own award now for
Australians called the ' Cross of Valour ' ( I think ). Which incidentally was awarded to an ASAS man.
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reply posted on 20-3-2005 @ 10:43 PM by Hellmutt
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Originally posted by Kidbored
Charge of the Light Brigade [...] the battle of Balaclava [...]
The charge of the Light Brigade was a big blunder. It was a "suicide attack" caused by a misunderstanding. Some guy on a horse were replying to some
other guys question. Something like "The canons are over there" (*pointing "over there" with his sabre*). Somebody took this as a signal to attack
and charged. It turned into a big massacre... very sad.
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reply posted on 29-3-2005 @ 04:36 PM by Hellmutt
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Addition to The charge of the Light Brigade
...But they were brave of course. Very brave. Obeying stupid orders like a good soldier without any questions. They deserve their VC´s but the attack
should have been done differently...
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reply posted on 29-3-2005 @ 04:41 PM by Risky_Bizness
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This story motivates the heck out of me.......
Talk about of the wall, this guy should be up there with
1. Chesty Puller
2. Dan Daley
3. John "Manilla" Basilone
Marine Capt recieves Navy cross
Marine Capt. Brian R. Chontosh received the Navy Cross Medal from the Commandant of the United States Marine Corps, Gen. Michael W. Hagee, during an
awards ceremony Thursday at Marine Corps Air Ground Combat Training Center, Twentynine Palms, Calif.
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reply posted on 31-3-2005 @ 10:22 PM by R988
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Great thread, Heres a couple more to add to the (extremely long) list.
The Allied raid on St. Nazarine, the british took an old US Destroyer, disguised it as German ship, filled it with explosives and commandos and rammed
it into a dock capable of holding the Tirpiz. It was basicallya suicide mission, but knocked out the dock until well after the war. No less than 5 VCs
awarded in that little escapade.
historynet.com...
www.bbc.co.uk...
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Also The Rats of Tobruk, www.diggerhistory.info...
Somehow a bunch of ragtag Australains held off Rommels Army in appalling conditions.
The strategy of Major General L J Morshead, of the Tobruk garrison, was simply this: to hold the town at all costs, and, by offensive forays,
to force the enemy to divert greatly superior forces to hold a dangerous threat and thus weaken his drive against Egypt.
It was in the heat and dust of Tobruk that Australian tenacity and courage achieved its supreme expression. Air raids which had gone into the
thousands before unofficial statisticians lost count had no more effect on members of the garrison than the enemy's artillery, strafing and attacks
by tanks.
The siege was only a couple of months old when the renegade Lord Haw Haw, broadcasting from Berlin, said they were "caught like rats in a trap" and
applied it to the garrison because most of its men could find shelter only underground while the bombers were overhead. Our men accepted the title
with relish. To one another, they were "the rats." To the Axis they were rats with razor-sharp teeth. They became "The Rats of Tobruk"
the first phases of the siege the Australian garrison, concerned primarily with testing its strength, concentrated on defence. But as the troops
proved their ability to repel thrust upon thrust by Germans and Italians, defence gave way to fierce aggression as the world's most daring patrol
fighters went into action each night.
Tobruk patrols were of two types - fighting and reconnaissance. The job of the reconnaissance patrol was to gather information and, if possible, to
secure prisoners for identification. Its members used all their bushcraft to avoid being discovered. Like stealthy shadows, they saw without being
seen. But the fighting patrol went out to fight. Its aim was to do as much damage and to kill as many of the enemy as possible. Its members would
creep up on an enemy post, surround it and then, at a given signal, rush in with the bayonet and kill-soundlessly A few brief minutes of bloody,
sinew-straining work and the foray would be over, with not a shot fired.
So persistent and so deadly were the Australian night patrols that the enemy, living in the perpetual shadow of silent, stealthy death, was soon
reduced to a state of almost panicky nervousness. On the slightest provocation, and often on no provocation at all, he would put down artillery and
mortar barrages.
Two typical examples of AIF offensive patrols are quoted. In the first, the raiders crawled in single file for two miles through a minefield to attack
an observation post, the position of which had been revealed by reconnaissance patrols on the previous day.
The patrol started on its journey after midnight and was preparing for the final assault when Very lights lit up the scene, and the enemy post opened
fire with rifles and machine guns. Five of our men then charged in with bayonets, Tommy guns, and grenades. Despite a volley of hand grenades from the
enemy, the patrol stormed on, killing 15 and wounding many of the estimated 50 enemy before crossfire from supporting posts forced a withdrawal. The
patrol regained its own lines, suffering only slight casualties.
The second classic patrol won for its leader, Lieutenant William. Horace Noyes, the Military Cross. With an NCO, Lieutenant Noyes stalked and
destroyed three light tanks and led a bayonet attack against the enemy garrison. His unit captured the post and killed or wounded the garrison of 130,
as well as the crews of seven machine-guns and 11 anti-tank guns and their protective infantry. It also damaged a heavy tank.
Throughout the siege the AIF garrison operated with a perfect team work that ran from the front-line soldier, back through his immediate headquarters
to the artillery, back to the higher formations, to the supply and ordnance workshops, and to the hospitals. In the entire garrison there was not one
idle mouth to be fed.
And throughout the eight bitter months of heat and dust and blood and flies, the garrison retained those high spirits that are the hallmark of high
courage. If Lord Haw Haw thought he could goad the Australians with his bitter tilt at the "Rats of Tobruk" he committed the grossest of his many
misjudgments.
The men were proud of the title and some of them now treasure an unofficial medal, bearing the stamp of a rodent rampant, which was unofficially
struck to commemorate the defence of Tobruk. see below left
That medal was fashioned from aluminum taken from the fuselage of a German bomber brought down by the anti-aircraft fire of the sharpest-teethed rats
in history. Below right is a newer commemorative medal issued by the Association in 1977
My Grandmothers, Brother was a Rat of Toruk and after he got back from Tobruk he was promptly sent to New Guniea to fight along the Kokoda Trail! Talk
about going out of the frying pan and into the Fire. Amazingly he managed to survive all this and lived out the rest of his life as a huble clerk in a
post office. Honestly we don't even know we are alive.
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reply posted on 26-6-2005 @ 08:45 PM by Hellmutt
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*BUMP*
Glowworm on fire but still fighting
Source
Glowworm, all guns firing and siren wailing like a banshee, tore into the Hipper's starboard side.
As she slipped under, her siren which had been going all through the action, abruptly stopped causing a momentary eerie silence.
The Heritage Coast Foylebank:
Ramming the Hipper
Survivors from Glowworm in the water
Photograph taken from the bridge of the Hipper showing Glowworm
The Hipper, which was carrying 2000 German Alpine troops to Norway had to turn back to Germany for extensive repairs which kept her out of action for
much of the war.
Andy Rules: A Tribute to the H.M.S. Glowworm
When it became clear that he could not outrun the Hipper, Roope turned and rammed his adversary instead. How awesome is this? Rather then surrender,
he rammed the German ship. Lieutenant Commander G.P. Roope, you’ve just been added to my list of all time heroes. I salute you.
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reply posted on 27-6-2005 @ 05:31 AM by Simon666
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Originally posted by Otts
Also, when Richard the Lionheart participated in the Third Crusade and fell ill with fever, Saladin reportedly had his men go into the mountain and
find some ice to soothe the king. Of course, those were the days of chivalry...
Actually, sending ice over allowed him to assess the enemy number of men and their condition.
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reply posted on 27-6-2005 @ 06:00 AM by XyZeR
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IMHO there can be no heroism in WAR, IN WAR there are only loosers.
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reply posted on 27-6-2005 @ 06:29 AM by periwinkle blue
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Heroism
Another fine thread. I'm very happy to see the volume of responses.
Recounted in prior posts are many individual, but by far more campaign references, I suppose because it's easier to recall the name of a battle,
than of a single participant.
For the interested, there is a website devoted to winners of the "Congressional Medal of Honor" with write-ups of the deeds that gained them
their awards.
I'm content to recall my father, a veteran of Guadalcanal, Peliliu and Okinawa during our Pacific WWII campaign. He never considered himself a
hero, and was only to his children.
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reply posted on 29-6-2005 @ 11:39 PM by russiankid
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i think that the tourturing should win an award...
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reply posted on 30-6-2005 @ 10:58 AM by Stealth Spy
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Grenadier Yogendra Singh Yadav, an Indian Army soldier instrumental in capturing the strategic Tiger Hill during the Kargil War, has been provided
with a plot of land in Lajpat Nagar Colony of Ghaziadbad by the Uttar Pradesh Government. He was awarded the Param Vir Chakra - the country's highest
gallantry award - and he spoke about how jawans captured Tiger Hill in an exclusive tête-à-tête. A resident of Aurangabad Ahir under the
Bulandshahr District, Uttar Pradesh he is a 25-year-old soldier. While he and his elder Jitendra have both been in the Army since December 1996, his
younger brother Deepak is a student. He lost his father two months ago and his mother Shanmta Devi looks after the family farms.
It was 10:30 a.m. on July 5, 1999 at 16,500 feet above the sea level. We were 25 soldiers of the 18 Granadiers unit of the Indian Army. We were
ordered to advance to capture Tiger Hill in the Drass Sector. After scaling the rocks for three nights, we were just 50 metres below Tiger Hill. As
chance would have it, a stone slipped during our scaling operation. As the stone rolled down, it provoked heavy crossfire from the Pakistani bunkers
which were just 10 meters above us. Due to the heavy firing, 18 of our jawans and officers had to retreat. Now, we were just seven jawans near the
Pakistani bunkers. We were in a precarious situation, neither could we advance nor retreat. We thus had to wait for the right opportunity. By then,
the enemy had deployed a company of 135 soldiers on top of Tiger Hill. After the firing stopped, we (seven of us) slowly began advancing to capture
the Pakistani bunkers, just 10 metres away from us. At about 11:30 a.m. we opened fire at the bunker and gunned down four Pakistani soldiers. After we
captured the Pakistani bunker, the Pakistan Army from the top of Tiger Hill sent 10 jawans to assess our strength.
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reply posted on 30-6-2005 @ 11:00 AM by Stealth Spy
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UNDILUTED HEROISM By Colonel Lalit Rai, VrC
I am a third generation in the Indian Army and that too in the same Regiment. After I was commissioned, I joined the 11 Gorkha Rifles, the
Regiment that my grandfather and father belonged to - it's like a tradition. I got commissioned into the 7/11 Gorkha Rifles. This incidentally, was
not the battalion that I led into battle. The battalion I was destined to lead, into a fierce series of battles during 'Operation Vijay' was the
1/11 Gorkha Rifles, the one my father had been commissioned into about 42 years ago. I had been posted to various places, served in every type of
terrain conceivable - from deserts, mountains, jungles, ravines, plains, high altitudes, super-high altitudes - you name it. And after various
instructional and staff appointments, took over the command of the 17 Rashtriya Rifles (Maratha LI), a newly raised battalion in J&K, designed to
combat insurgency and militancy. Command of a Rashtriya Rifles battalion is considered a very tough and a challenging assignment. I had promptly
agreed to the offer for the command of the 17 RR.
I took it as a big challenge, firstly, because the troops were from the Maratha Regiment, mostly hailing from in and around Pune, quite different from
the troops I had been commanding throughout my career till then, and secondly, commanding a battalion in a militant infested area has its fair share
of risks and tensions. However it did not take me long to realise that the Gorkha and the Maratha troops were so much like each other in so many ways,
as events and achievements of the battalion would unfold later and substantiate my claim. I enjoyed and loved every moment of my command tenure with
my Maratha boys and we hit it off like a house on fire.
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reply posted on 30-6-2005 @ 01:53 PM by JungleMike
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Three instances of collective heroism that are worthy of note:
1. Defense of Stalingrad. I believe that up to 80% of the city had fallen
into Nazi hands. Talk about a comeback!
2. The Battle of Britain. Facing a numerically superior enemy armed with
high quality weapons, the RAF dug in and changed the course of
WWII in my opinion.
3. The Doolittle Raid. Dark days for US military, the raiders took off on
a one way mission knowing that the blow they were going to strike
was largely symbolic.
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