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Originally posted by Xcalibur254
reply to post by SatoriTheory
Don't forget China. They have 4,000 years of continuous history recorded and they mention no doom planet, no global flood, no increase in massive earthquakes, etc. So, if the return of this thing is such a world changing event why don't the Chinese mention it?
Originally posted by Skippy1138
Originally posted by phantomjack
It was predicted that when Elenin, Saturn, and Earth aligned on 7.7.11, we would see the signs here on earth.
Except that it's not 7/7............
Originally posted by nusnus
reply to post by Heartisblack
LOL thats just mean now Ozarks on his head and such hehehe
But I noticed something interesting in his posts.
He wants people to stock up on food.
And it might sound bizarre but a very well known spiritual leader of the Sufi order has been going around telling people to stock up on food too. These people can't even be related I'm sure. So thats what caught my eye in the first glance.
Just letting you people know Terral isnt the only person who thinks stocking up on food is a good idea.
Gravity depends on two things: the mass of the object pulling on you, and its distance. The more mass something has, the stronger it pulls, and the farther away it is, the weaker it pulls. As a matter of fact, the strength depends on the square of the distance. If you double the distance, the force of gravity drops by 2 x 2=4. If you put something ten times farther away, the gravitational force drops by 10 x 10=100. You can see that gravity gets weak pretty quickly with distance.
The tidal force is much like gravity, but it drops with the cube of the distance. This makes it much less important in our case. Say you double the distance to an object. Its tidal force on the Earth drops by 2 x 2 x 2=8. If you increase its distance by a factor of ten, the tidal force drops by 10 x 10 x 10=1000! So tides are in fact much weaker than gravity.
So if we know the mass of an object and its distance, we can calculate the forces of both gravity and tides. It shouldn't be too much of a surprise to find out that the overwhelming winner in this game is the Earth's own Moon. It doesn't mass much (only about 1/80 of the Earth), but it is very close (Venus, the closest planet to the Earth, is at best 150 times farther away).
To make matters easier on us, let's say that the moon's gravitational force on the Earth is equal to 1 in whatever units gravity is measured in. That way we can see right away how strong the other planets are; a gravity of 10 means the planet pulls on the Earth 10 times as much as the Moon does. We can do the same with tides; assume that the tidal force is equal to 1 in tidal force units and see how the other planets fare.
So, in units of Moon gravity and tides, below are the forces on the Earth from rest of the planets the data for masses and distances are from the NASA data, The Nine Planets. The masses are in units of 10^22 kilograms (the Earth masses 6x10^24 kilograms, or 600 on this scale), and the distances in millions of kilometers. By the way, the distances of closest approach to the Earth are used to maximize the effect. Realistically, the force will be smaller than what is listed.
Originally posted by phantomjack
Originally posted by TupacShakur
reply to post by phantomjack
A comet absolutely cannot affect the Earth from that far away, the gravitational attraction is just too weak. Even if it were a brown dwarf like many people think I still don't think it's close enough to affect us gravitationally. The idea of a comet or even a brown dwarf as far away as it is causing earthquakes here on Earth due to gravity alone is outrageous. What's the closest that Elenin will get to Earth, does anybody know? Also does anybody know how far away it was during the time of the earthquake?
Closest: 22 Million Miles. Current distance is I think, and I am guessing from data I have seen, around 1.4 AU? Look it up on JPL.
It may be outrageous if the situation were in a vacuum void of all other events and data currently occurring. NASA has not been clear on the composition of the "comet" and if you look at the JPL models, the darn thing is changing course at 10 degree angles. How can that be?
All things being equal, I would agree with you. However, there are too many unanswered questions, or rather, a void of information coming from Government.
I look at these things:
1. Ancient scripts and writings
2. History of the world, in comparison to the events in number 1
3. The heightened distribution of warnings from NASA to its employees
4. The same about FEMA
5. Why is Hollywood bombarding us with end of the world movies?
6. We can track a bolt in orbit, and it took an unknown russian astronomer to find ELE in November?
7. Why was the shuttle program discontinued?
8. Why is the US Government behaving and spending money like there is no tomorrow?
9. Why the push for one world government?
10. An inbound object that we can not see? Or can we see it?
These and other questions keep me awake at night.