Phil Imbrogno gone from field - he faked his educational credentials, page 11
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reply posted on 27-7-2011 @ 12:39 PM by jritzmann
Originally posted by dreadphil
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I will readily admit the subject of UFO and ET's do bring out many hoaxers and frauds, and ever do I wonder at their reasoning behind such flagrant (and oft times not so flagrant) ruse's, is their need for attention so great as to put themselves out there like that? There are also the ones who use such chicanery to make money off the more gullible people as well. It is hard enuff to sift thru whats truth and not without all the fakers muddying up the waters.


I think it's 2 fold - some start these ridiculous lies and flame wars just for attention, which they ultimately think will garner them more listeners. It's essentially bullying sophomoric garbage (and demonstrably so).

The other half is probably due to a point Biedny made long ago (and despite that we don't much like each other anymore, he's still 100% right): these people can't get arrested in any other field, their entire lives are wrapped up in the drama and controversy in effort to have people notice them. The problem is listeners and the interested public don't care about their tirades, and so they end up marginalizing themselves in the end...over and over.

When no one pays them any mind, they simply up the diatribes and personal B.S. until you respond and validate them as worthy of response...and largely these days, I try not to even bother. Ultimately, these people don't add anything to the subject - and that's what I'm here for.

Now hoaxers, have a real game these days - page hits can equate to cash flow if they play their cards right. If you can pull a good fake, you can hoard it onto a page and advertise on that page with AdSense or direct sales. Going far enough, it can lead to mainstream media coverage which only ups the visibility. But, it also denigrates the subject when found to be fake. And of course there's number two in that equation: that the fakers just want to play games and have a laugh - or act like they're proving some point about the gullibility of the UFO field.

It's a tough deal all around. No wonder we're not making a lot of headway with this UFO problem.


reply posted on 27-7-2011 @ 02:22 PM by Kandinsky
After recent posts, I went and downloaded a couple of the Mind Cemetery shows and listened to the Imbrogno one. Gotta say I enjoyed it and there are a couple of laugh out loud moments in there. I'm Swiss with the podcast rivalry and listen to Paratopia regularly and the Paracast, if there's guests on who I'm interested in. I downloaded the Paul Kimball interview too, I like the guy, and will give it a listen tomorrow.

It's a pity the last couple of pages have strayed into a mini-flame war...that's just ufology I guess.

No doubt Dr Imbrogno BS MVP PhD and Honorary President of Earth will be chuckling into his Hennessey and wiping the tears away with royalty checks.


reply posted on 27-7-2011 @ 10:42 PM by ChipatMindCemetery
Thanks Kandinsky for giving it a shot and listening.

ritzmann:
If you and your partner are just going to sit on a make believe high ground and try to stay above the fray at least do so without directly contradicting yourselves yet again.

You say there were lies told about you and your show? What lies were they? ALL information came from your show and the forums you posted in.

Sophomoric bullying? Could of fooled me... actually you are fooling no one. Your right back here on the forums keeping the fire going with every condescending comment.

ZERO response to the attacks your show made against Mabus towards their guest Stan Romanek.

ZERO response to how your show claimed to have insider information, and talked about this sealed degree nonsense.

But hey I get it, other podcasts and frankly listeners aren't worthy of such responses from your show because your all too good for that kind of thing. You want to talk about how we would marginalize ourselves.... you couldn't be more wrong, people like what we do. Because to be honest you and your ilk have been getting away with saying whatever you want and not having it thrown back in your face for a long time. It's even more insulting that the new show on the block did it and heaven forbid you get questioned about your statements, and posts on multiple forums.

You can have your pals here at ATS silence the supporters of Mind Cemetery and The Church of Mabus but you sir are the one marginalizing yourself in the end, your tactics are old and tired, your hypocrisy knows no bounds and with every passing view of this forum thread more and more intelligent, informed people decline to listen to your next show.

You don't really believe that your show or any paranormal/Ufology show can push forward the serious scientific research of the topic do you? Oh hell, why even ask you it's just another distraction question you want out there to keep from answering the real questions about the ethics behind your relationship and subsequent handling of the Imbrogno fallout. That's what's its been about from the start, ethics.


reply posted on 5-3-2012 @ 06:06 PM by anotherseeker
Here's a list of links about the recent Phil Imbrogno story, including any mentions here on the Above Top Secret forum. If anyone has any relevant links please message me or post them yourself so we can build up an archive on this topic and keep this thread as a handy reference list.

Above Top Secret thread links

7/6/2011 Phil Imbrogno gone from field - he faked his educational credentials by davidbiedny (this thread you are reading now)
7/13/2011 Phil Imbrogno's apparent response in the above ATS thread, posted as badboy666
7/20/2011 With so many frauds, who can I trust? by dreadphil
Search "imbrogno" at Above Top Secret

Phil Imbrogno links

Djinn Universe
Llewellyn Author page
Amazon Books page
Coast to Coast Radio interviews
Youtube videos
Google search for interviews
Search in the Paracast forum

Other links

7/6/2011 Phil Imbrogno - The Fall of a Paranormal Hero?? by The ParaHunter
7/7/2011 Re: Phil Imbrogno Caught Fabricating MIT by Gene Steinberg
7/7/2011 Fall from grace? by Tony Morrill
7/8/2011 On Imbrogno - and DMR by Don Ecker
7/9/2011 Paratopia Episode 124: Imbroglios Abound by Jeff & Jer
7/10/2011 What I've learned from the Phil Imbrogno fiasco by Tony Morrill
7/11/2011 Priorities by Paul Kimball
7/13/2011 Imbrogno, Fraud, Stolen Valor by Don Ecker
7/14/2011 A Phil-a-buster by Nancy Birnes
7/14/2011 Don Ecker — July 24, 2011 by Gene Steinberg
7/15/2011 Saucers, Lies and Audio Tape by Lance Moody
7/16/2011 Re: Imbrogno Academic Fraud & Stolen Valor by Gregory Boone
7/16/2011 Your Paracast Newsletter — July 16, 2011 by Gene Steinberg
7/17/2011 The Crash of Philip J. Imbrogno by Kevin Randle
7/18/2011 Did William Levengood of the BLT crop circle research team fake his PhD credentials? by the blue raven
7/18/2011 Prominent UFO Author exposed by lancemoody
7/20/2011 Minisode: Where in the world is…………Philip Imbrogno? *update 8-4-11* by Chip
7/20/2011 Phil Imbrogno - Fraud and stolen Valor (?) by philliman
7/22/2011 Grass Roots Welcoming Committee in UFO Land by Regan Lee
7/29/2011 Philip J. Imbrogno withdrawing from paranormal research! by trainedobserver
7/30/2011 Your Paracast Newsletter -- July 30, 2011 by Gene Steinberg
7/30/2011 Professional Credentials for Paranormal Investigators by Josephine
11/20/2011 It was just a year ago that disgraced fraudster Phil Imbrogno was threatening... by Stone Chambers of Putnam County Facebook
1/12/2012 Imbrogno Resurfaces in Canada by ufology
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