This Is How You Fix Congress

"The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people, it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government - lest it come to dominate our lives and interests." - Patrick Henry –

The 26th amendment (granting the right to vote for 18 year-olds) took only 3 months & 8 days to be ratified! Why? Simple! The people demanded it. That was in 1971...before computers, before e-mail, before cell phones, etc.

Of the 27 amendments to the Constitution, seven (7) took 1 year or less to become the law of the land...all because of public pressure.

I'm asking each member that agrees with the following to forward this message on to whomever they see fit, and in turn ask each of those to do likewise.

In three days, most people in The United States of America will have the message. This is one idea that really should be passed around.

Congressional Reform Act of 2011

1. No Tenure / No Pension. A Congressman collects a salary while in office and receives no pay when they are out of office.

2. Congress (past, present & future) participates in Social Security. All funds in the Congressional retirement fund move to the Social Security system immediately. All future funds flow into the Social Security system, and Congress participates with the American people. It may not be used for any other purpose.

3. Congress can purchase their own retirement plan, just as all Americans do.

4. Congress will no longer vote themselves a pay raise. Congressional pay will rise by the lower of CPI or 3%.

5. Congress loses their current health care system and participates in the same health care system as the American people.

6. Congress must equally abide by all laws they impose on the American people.

7. All contracts with past and present Congressmen are void effective 1/1/12.

The American people did not make this contract with Congressmen. Congressmen made all these contracts for themselves. Serving in Congress is an honor, not a career. The Founding Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, so ours should serve their term(s), then go home and back to work.

If each person contacts a minimum of twenty people then it will only take three days for most people (in the U.S. ) to receive the message. Maybe it is time.

THIS IS HOW YOU FIX CONGRESS!!!!!

Again if you agree, maybe pass this along - if not,move along and go to another more interesting post.

Pretty sure that will not fix congress. However it is a good start. Probably will need an Amendment to the Constitution for it though.
Fixing congress is really not easy, but the problem is frequently missed by most people. The special interest money is the problem with congress. When a group can influence a representative through donations you always have corruption.
Pretty much every one in congress except Ron Paul accepts special interest money. The real solution is to vote them out.

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I think any Congressman who commits a crime, while in office, and is found to be guilty of that crime MUST be given the maximum sentence allowed for said crime.

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Actually the best way to fix congress is applying a local anesthetic, making an incision in the scrotum, and removing the testicles. Roll the skin up, tuck, and stitch. You've now fixed congress.

No different than fixing a cat, really.

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The sad little bunny likes it alot!
Bookmarking this thread for future issues.

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Again if you agree, maybe pass this along - if not,move along and go to another more interesting post.

Really? All of which you have suggested is sacrosanct and not open to discussion? One tyrant presumes to fix the tyranny of 535 tyrants, take it or leave it.

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Pretty good ideas overall.

6. Congress must equally abide by all laws they impose on the American people.

For this to work, you would have to make the laws already on the books imposed on the government.... which won't happen.

reply to post by Jean Paul Zodeaux


No, I'm simply offering an idea, a suggestion which is open for debate..........sorry if that was not clear.

And if you really find my suggestion offensive and have no counter ideas move along.

No trolling allowed.

At least I'm trying to figure a way out of this matrix.

You're half way there, but this will not fix congress.
Who would vote it in? Congress?
No, the first thing that absolutely must be done is to vote every current member of congress out of office.
They must be replaced not with corporate businessmen, corporate lawyers, investment bankers and career politicians.
They must be replaced with farmers, factory workers, small business owners and school teachers.
Replace them with the very people who will be the ones affected by their legislation.
They must have term limits. Eight years works for the president it should with for them as well.
A moratorium in lobbying should be instated until such that the lobbying laws are rewritten to give a voice back to the populace and away from corporate special interest to prevent undue influence.

These are what must be done first before congress can be fixed and restored to the people where it belongs

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They must be replaced not with corporate businessmen, corporate lawyers, investment bankers and career politicians.

I agree

Nice list.

Question - exactly WHO would we pressure to get anything like this even looked at? Our congressmen??

See the problem?

Fixing congress wouldn't be an issue if people voting weren't so dumb. Congress would fix itself because good people would be elected.

Dumb voters means it cannot fix itself.

Dumbed down education = dumb people = dumb voters = corrupt government = tyranny.

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it is my understanding that in roman times
if the budget wasn't balanced or there was a deficit in the public coffers

the senators had to pony up the difference
out their own pockets.

add that to the list

also if the US were to come clean about C.A.F.R.s
we'd find that NYC (just the city)is siting on 2.2 trillion Dollars of investment capital (liquid assets, stocks bonds etc)
the US-gov is sitting on more than 64 trillion Dollars of investment capital (liquid assets, stocks bonds etc)

whats the debt? 14 trillion? that leaves more than 50 trillion left over divide that by the current population....




www.cafr1.com...
www.cafr1.com...
www.project.nsearch.com...
CAFRs: The Biggest Secret $60 trillion invested by US government www.abovetopsecret.com...
The One Thing they will not discuss, CAFR www.abovetopsecret.com...

an ATS Search for CAFR brings up 9 pages [Psst! hint.]

find the CAFR for your state follow the methodology provided by the links or get an accountant to do it for you.
word of warning when confronted with this , the SOP is the big ignore [and be assured you will be escorted off the premises by security] and some states are now hiding their CAFR offline so...

but it's looking more and more like the walking fox has the right idea, just that another part of their anatomy's should be removed to fix the problem.

what was that the Red Queen was always saying?

Originally posted by ofhumandescent
reply to post by Jean Paul Zodeaux

 

No, I'm simply offering an idea, a suggestion which is open for debate..........sorry if that was not clear.

And if you really find my suggestion offensive and have no counter ideas move along.

No trolling allowed.

At least I'm trying to figure a way out of this matrix.

Uh-huh. This is what you said in your Opening Post, that I responded to:

Again if you agree, maybe pass this along - if not,move along and go to another more interesting post.

This statement is not unclear nor is it vague. You made it perfectly clear that disagreement was not allowed in this thread. Of course, and if you have been paying attention the past few years, have plenty to say about your suggestion on how to "fix" Congress, but what would have been the point of posting my opinions if your intent was to be just another tyrant suppressing dissent? Better, I think, to clear the matter up first.

Now that the matter has been cleared up, let's address your suggestions.

First, and foremost, let's address the overall ideology behind the suggestion to "fix" Congress. The biggest flaw in your belief system is that belief that Congressmen are above the law:

6. Congress must equally abide by all laws they impose on the American people.

Within that same statement is another flawed ideology, and it is the idea that Congress can "impose" upon the people. Nothing could be further from the truth. Congress has no Constitutional authority to "impose" upon the people, and whatever acts of legislation they do pass are required to pass Constitutional muster. This is not to say that the federal government as a whole abides by their Constitutional mandate, but of course why should they when there enough people who actually believe that Congress has the authority to "impose" upon the people? Which leads to the major flaw in your suggestion of "fix"ing Congress.

As long as too many people passionately and vehemently argue that there are no such things as unalienable rights and natural law then no amount of "fix"ing will work. People get the government they deserve, and if enough people are hell bent on doing away with self government in exchange for tyranny then this is what they will get. Hell, people don't even have to be so passionate and vehement that unalienable rights and natural law are non existent. Even if all the people were in agreement that all people everywhere have certain unalienable rights and that any denial or disparagement of these rights is criminal, government - including Congress - would still have a proclivity towards tyranny.

Congress does what they do because the people allow it. There are a few who understand law - real law not legislation acting under color of law - and who stand mightily tall in the face of tyranny and demand justice, but too many do not want justice and instead want entitlements and privileges, and are more than willing to sacrifice, not just their own rights, but the rights of everyone in order to gain these privileges. Too many people ignore the fact that the federal Constitution guarantees to each state a republican form of government. That republic established both federally and state by state is decidedly anti-democratic in the purest sense of democracy.

Those, which is most, who keep insisting we live in a democracy, either knowingly or tacitly put forth the presumption that the majority, or in some cases a well oiled minority, can trample all over individual rights if they have enough votes to do so. This is the purpose of establishing a republic. The republic is in place to prevent the people from voting rights away. It is not lawful in a natural law sense, and certainly not lawful in a Constitutional sense to trample over individual right(s). No act of legislation, under our Constitutional republic, has the authority to deny or disparage rights retained by the people.

Of course, and again, my assertions are few and far between the cacophony of the masses who could care less about unalienable rights and just want their entitlements and privileges. Thus, it is not Congress that needs to be "fix"ed, it is We the People who need fixing. Congress is lawless because the majority of the people are lawless. Denying and disparaging individual rights has become an American past time.

For those who know better, and more and more are learning the law- because ignorance of the law is no excuse and cannot work as a lawful defense - they are discovering that their only real option in this insane nation that has embraced a Congress who has gleefully "imposed" more than 600,000 acts of legislation on the people, is non-acquiescence. This non-acquiescence used to be an American past time and embodied the "American Spirit" but those were different times. Today, spoiled little children at the age of adulthood scream for their entitlements and privileges.

If you truly want to "fix" Congress, let go of the notion that you are "entitled" to Social Security, which is nothing more than a Ponzi Scheme parading about as legal plunder. Let go of the notion that any act of legislation that comes down the pike is law. Legislation is not law, merely evidence of law. If all acts of legislation were actually law, the judiciary would not have the power to strike legislation down as unconstitutional. If all acts of legislation were actually law, the Bill of Rights and any and all Declaration of Rights within State Constitutions would be meaningless. Of course, too many people passionately and vehemently argue that The Bill of Rights and unalienable rights are meaningless, and therein lies the problem. A problem that desperately needs to be fixed.