ATS Reality: CoIntelPro, Shills, Freemasons, and Socks: The Definitive Guide

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posted on Apr, 19 2012 @ 03:50 AM
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I know the tos.. and Ive had enough issues to know the manner in which I should go about handling the issue.. and as I stated and will state now for the last time.... ALL options that I should have do NOT work. thanks.




posted on Apr, 19 2012 @ 03:52 AM
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I know the tos.. and Ive had enough issues to know the manner in which I should go about handling the issue.. and as I stated and will state now for the last time.... ALL options that I should have do NOT work. thanks.



posted on Apr, 19 2012 @ 03:52 AM
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posted on Apr, 19 2012 @ 03:52 AM
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Originally posted by Gemwolf
reply to post by GuidedKill
 


As I said before, we're not going to hand a soap box to someone that wants to dish ATS on ATS.

If someone stuck posters claiming that you are a murderer all over your house, are you going to leave the posters up because you're a "big boy" and able to handle it?

There are countless videos and websites created by members banned from ATS proclaiming that ATS is the big bad wolf. Links to these are posted in threads time and again, and time and again we remove it. This is not new, i.e. it's standard procedure.


I guess I could use ATS tactics and run outside under cover of darkness and remove all the posters as if they didn't exist. Then make my own posters and act like there really aren't accusations against me. That sounds like a much better plan.

But if you really like to know what I would do instead of reading my mind. I would like I said, STAND UP and face the people accusing me. For some reason ATS has chosen your plan......



posted on Apr, 19 2012 @ 03:53 AM
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reply to post by Gemwolf
 


I know the tos.. and Ive had enough issues to know the manner in which I should go about handling the issue.. and as I stated and will state now for the last time.... ALL options that I should have do NOT work. thanks.



posted on Apr, 19 2012 @ 03:53 AM
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There are several threads discussing this issue. Feel free to use the search function and add your thoughts.



posted on Apr, 19 2012 @ 03:54 AM
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reply to post by Gemwolf
 


I know the tos.. and Ive had enough issues to know the manner in which I should go about handling the issue.. and as I stated and will state now for the last time.... ALL options that I should have do NOT work. thanks.



posted on Apr, 19 2012 @ 03:54 AM
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I would wager, no, many don't, if any.

Just when certain things are questioned, will these points be pointed out.

The fact is, the rules is the rules, period.

I have questioned many things, in my time here, and have come to accept the rules.

It really is not that hard.

vvv



posted on Apr, 19 2012 @ 03:55 AM
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Is there any evidence to prove this is not a governement run site?



posted on Apr, 19 2012 @ 03:56 AM
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Oh okay, i tried to, they all seem to be getting 404'd and or referred to come here to discuss it by the mod, so I guess that is my roundabout answer.



posted on Apr, 19 2012 @ 04:00 AM
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Originally posted by GuidedKill
I guess I could use ATS tactics and run outside under cover of darkness and remove all the posters as if they didn't exist. Then make my own posters and act like there really aren't accusations against me. That sounds like a much better plan.

But if you really like to know what I would do instead of reading my mind. I would like I said, STAND UP and face the people accusing me. For some reason ATS has chosen your plan......


I'm not sure I understand the question. I thought we're here busy discussing the fact that people accuse ATS of being an ATS government agency? Nothing happened "under the cover of darkness". Everyone saw what happened. There are still threads that were not deleted but simply closed. I even made a statement in this thread describing exactly what happened. No one is hiding anything... I'm here facing you and everyone else having a go?



posted on Apr, 19 2012 @ 04:01 AM
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The rules are rules thing is funny...

Especially on a conspiracy site...

More so coming from a site founded in a country based on the violation of rules...

No sire we do not like them rules enforced on us arbitrarily and on the whim of those in power with out explanation...

atleast we americans used to like to have a little representation and or explanation on these type of matters.

But I think the MODS, and the MEMBERS forget where we are, on the internet, in a Fricken conspiracy forum that claims to wish to deny ignorance, perhaps a little more understanding from both the people complaining about this, and from the MODS enforcing it.



posted on Apr, 19 2012 @ 04:02 AM
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Originally posted by GaVinCe
Is there any evidence to prove this is not a governement run site?


What proof do you want?

What evidence is there to be given, to make you believe it is not?

It seems that many have made up their minds already, therefore they have a preconceived idea, of what ATS is or is not.

To try and disproof your point of view, will be quite hard, since no evidence will suffice for those that believe what they want to believe.

This does not just hold true for the topic at hand, but for many topics, be it aliens, ufo's, reptilians, dentists etc etc.

vvv



posted on Apr, 19 2012 @ 04:03 AM
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edit on 19-4-2012 by GuidedKill because: (no reason given)



posted on Apr, 19 2012 @ 04:03 AM
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We get that it is within the rules, so much should have been obvious for everyone. We get that this is a private forum and that freedom of speech doesn't apply as such. This is a non-issue. What we are criticizing is how the mods and administrators use these rules to immediately delete any sort of inquiry into who ATS represent, and we want real answers to this obviously totalitarian double standard.

Now, instead of pasting the rules everyone already knew existed, please contribute to these questions. Why do ATS delete instead of addressing? They have to know how bad this looks, and how much we despise our own governments for doing this.



posted on Apr, 19 2012 @ 04:04 AM
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Originally posted by VreemdeVlieendeVoorwep


I have questioned many things, in my time here, and have come to accept the rules.

It really is not that hard.

vvv


Agree.

Not everything is a conspiracy.




posted on Apr, 19 2012 @ 04:04 AM
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Originally posted by GuidedKill
I guess I could use ATS tactics and run outside under cover of darkness and remove all the posters as if they didn't exist. Then make my own posters and act like there really aren't accusations against me. That sounds like a much better plan.

You're still here, aren't you?
So that sort of invalidates your claim.


Originally posted by GuidedKill
But if you really like to know what I would do instead of reading my mind. I would like I said, STAND UP and face the people accusing me. For some reason ATS has chosen your plan......

That's fine for the staff and the site, but it crosses the line when it starts naming normal, non-staff, members. They don't have to defend themselves, and ATS will use its T&C to protect them from such activity.



posted on Apr, 19 2012 @ 04:05 AM
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Did you read any of the links I linked to a page or two ago? Did you even read the opening post of this thread?



posted on Apr, 19 2012 @ 04:05 AM
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My good sir

May I direct you to a thread I made about this very issue.

I was answered by a mod in that thread, and I accepted his answer.

Have a look if you will.

More Transparency is needed.

And no, I am not "pimping" my own thread, it is relevant to the discussion.

vvv



posted on Apr, 19 2012 @ 04:05 AM
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The video is what I'm talking about. Quit deleting it. Let the MOD's accused answer the questions and accusations being made against them. Hiding the video from ATS members does nothing to help ATS or the MOD's mentioned in the video.





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