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Originally posted by undo
reply to post by Amaterasu
any reason you can think of that Ann D (unham) would be modified? and did i read you correctly, are you saying the digital scan was manipulated or only the pdf? oy this is getting worse by the second lol
Originally posted by Amaterasu
Originally posted by undo
reply to post by Amaterasu
any reason you can think of that Ann D (unham) would be modified? and did i read you correctly, are you saying the digital scan was manipulated or only the pdf? oy this is getting worse by the second lol
The PDF is merely the file format. The image IN the PDF is forged. I think They found a BC signed by an Ann D(unkirk? oolittle? avis?) and used that much of the sig, adding the remainder of the sig digitally. Why They did it that way, rather than forging the whole sig is unclear.
I think They scanned a BC with "Ann D(avenport?)" and used some of that sig, but made the sig read correctly, and then replaced some text (by pasting various letters where they were needed - explaining the identical "i"s and other letter matches), thereby presenting a false document to "prove" Obama was born in the US.
Originally posted by aptness
So contrary to what Amaterasu and other birthers claim, scanning a document, converting to PDF and optimizing it will create the sort of ‘inconsistencies’ the birthers are all up in arms about.
It’s troubling that you actually believe this nonsense. So if they had forged the whole signature, they would have fooled you.
Originally posted by Amaterasu
I think They scanned a BC with "Ann D(avenport?)" and used some of that sig, but made the sig read correctly, and then replaced some text (by pasting various letters where they were needed - explaining the identical "i"s and other letter matches), thereby presenting a false document to "prove" Obama was born in the US.
Originally posted by Amaterasu
Originally posted by aptness
So contrary to what Amaterasu and other birthers claim, scanning a document, converting to PDF and optimizing it will create the sort of ‘inconsistencies’ the birthers are all up in arms about.
Excuse me... I said SPECIFICALLY that the layers are NOT the issue. Please don't claim *I* was making an issue out of the layers (in fact, the layers were what allowed Them to more easily forge what They produced). *I* have issue with a half scanned, half forged mother's signature and multiple "scanned" letters being identical.
Please actually address MY issues rather than make false accusations.
Originally posted by aptness
It’s troubling that you actually believe this nonsense. So if they had forged the whole signature, they would have fooled you.
Originally posted by Amaterasu
I think They scanned a BC with "Ann D(avenport?)" and used some of that sig, but made the sig read correctly, and then replaced some text (by pasting various letters where they were needed - explaining the identical "i"s and other letter matches), thereby presenting a false document to "prove" Obama was born in the US.
Wow, those are some dumb people the NWO got working for them to cover-up this 5 decade plan to put a foreign-born black man with a muslim name in the White House...
edit on 5-7-2011 by aptness because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by miniatus
This post means absolutely nothing .. People are focusing on the wrong document.. The document that matters is the original, not the PDF released for people to see online yet people keep analyzing the PDF and yelling fake! .. duh? it doesn't take much of a brain to see the gigantic holes in that logic.
Again - all this reveals is that the document has been processed with illustrator.. which is not even remotely surprising, you can tell that by the simple fact the color security backing was added.. this speaks nothing to the original document from which it was scanned.
Again - All this fuss about the digital document while it wasn't the digital document that was certified as official
Originally posted by caladonea
Really...aren't there enough threads on this subject? It has been discussed (ad nauseam). Right now he is the president ...he is in office....accept it.
And for those of you who may not know: (ad nauseam) "is Latin for an argument that has been discussed to the point of nausea; has been discussed to a disgusting or ridiculous degree"
Originally posted by miniatus
You don't have the original document to prove that it's forged..
the birther stance on the birth certificate is weak at best because it's standing on evidence it doesn't even possess..
I don't doubt the document released for public consumption was processed, I suspect the signature and other parts were faded..
my birth certificate is hardly legible and I'm not even as old as the president.. it stands to reason that parts of the document were probably enhanced for the public released document...
The version we saw is the version released to the public, not the version submitted and certified as official...
Until we see that then there's really not much to do but theorize .. analyzing the PDF version is a huge waste of time.
Originally posted by aptness
Originally posted by Amaterasu
I think They scanned a BC with "Ann D(avenport?)" and used some of that sig, but made the sig read correctly, and then replaced some text (by pasting various letters where they were needed - explaining the identical "i"s and other letter matches), thereby presenting a false document to "prove" Obama was born in the US.
It’s troubling that you actually believe this nonsense. So if they had forged the whole signature, they would have fooled you.
Wow, those are some dumb people the NWO got working for them to cover-up this 5 decade plan to put a foreign-born black man with a muslim name in the White House...
Originally posted by Scytherius
The world burns while the Birthers fiddle.
These are NOT experts.
This is NOT a theory.
The BC is NOT a forgery.
This is more idiotic than people living on the sun.
I'm tired of the stupid being allowed to vote.
Originally posted by fleabit
Seriously.. the President has the FBI, CIA, NSA, and various other organizations at his disposal.. they can forge absolutely anything.. and the best they can manage is a kludged together document anyone kid with a computer can "crack?"
If they wanted to forge this document, you would never know.
Wow. You don't understand how much They love to toy with Us, because, overall, We're the dumb Ones. They know that if They say something is so, most will still believe. They LIKE making it blatant, and then have some who go about the web deflecting, assassinating character, and sidestepping specific questions in the process. Those would be called shills... Or Troll-Rats.