It's Official: Experts says Barrack Obama's Birth Certificate is a Forged Document , page 5


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reply posted on 5-7-2011 @ 02:34 AM by UcDat
reply to post by Observer99


hmm i see your argument people are partisan its wired into us and a topic worthy of its own thread I think

So without getting into it in to much dept here's how I see this. First we are partisan because we feel a part of whatever group we support. Now when we learn they dont it creates an opportunity to step back and see them for what they are. ie self serving corporate pigs... So getting this kind of story out is the most effective way for us to effect change among the masses. (why do you think the mainstream media wont touch it) New worldviews will emerge one that seeks real representation and the leaders to go with it but even without TPTB we will always have a partisan system.


reply posted on 5-7-2011 @ 03:47 AM by UcDat
Freaking Epic Here's the guy who made the fake someone ought ta make a new thread about it! just stole it off glp....


Take note of the caller named "Larry" who called in about 21 minutes in. He claims the header information on Obama's BC PDF shows it was created by "Derek"


Ok so here's a Derek on Obama's team bets its the same and can anyone confirm the callers info about the header?

Derek R.B. Douglas www.whitehouse.gov...
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reply posted on 5-7-2011 @ 04:08 AM by Skerrako
reply to post by UcDat


Birth certificate stuff coming around again just as another war is.

Can't you people see this is just another NWO leash you are chasing?

Obama is not the problem, the people that directed him to the presidency are.



reply posted on 5-7-2011 @ 04:29 AM by awareness10
Being that Obama`s BC is a Fake, then technically speaking, everything he`s ever done, or changed or signed into Law should now become Null and Void, lawfully speaking, and everyone who backed him should be removed from office. Maybe Ron Paul should be the one to take this Monster/Corp. on. It takes one Person to change the opinion of many,, as history has shown over and over again.

Originally posted by UcDat


A nationally recognized computer expert who has served as contributing author and technical editor for more than 100 books on Adobe and Microsoft software says the Obama long-form birth-certificate image released by the White House is a fraudulent document created with Adobe software.
www.wnd.com...


Yep yet another real expert stepping up to say this is a fraud.

Sadly no ones arguing the facts anymore since not one expert will testify that this forged document is real. Who can blame them tho like the experts have been telling us its not only a fake but a poorly made one at that.

I know a few of you still cling to Obama being legit against all the facts still here's hoping this will bring a few more to see the light. You've been played nObama put out a forged long form officially. One so poor one has to wonder if its deliberate. Be it to divide people or to divert attention from the rest of his criminal acts...
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reply posted on 5-7-2011 @ 04:50 AM by modeselektor
This is kind of like the 911 questions, there are some very real and valid questions, that remain unanswered, or answered extremely poor. Yet people who believe the official story, either attack you with anger, or they outright ridicule you, with no other backing, than the official story, and their only question, of why should the government lie and kill their own.

There are some very weird things with this document, and I agree, OCS in no way answers it. Also, OCS is just thrown out there, I have seen no technical explanation, that covers it all. Whereas the explanations for fraud, seems to cover pretty much every technical aspect.

The only good point I've seen, is when Hawaii backs up, that they released it, and that it is real, then why should it be forged, when they could just make a real bc that looked real. There are a lot of answers to that one, but none that could be anything but speculations.

Government shutting up like a clam when questions are asked, and then refusing to deal with it, and as with this bc case, even changing things, like hawaii refusing to release bc, and such, should just make all you believers of official stories, curious, instead of acting like spin doctors for the government, ridiculing and denying.

Often times you act more like trolls, then believers in government stories.

For me, I am just curious when things don't seem to add up. I think USA have always been #ed in one way or another, and it is interesting how a large number of people living it, seem to not care at all.


reply posted on 5-7-2011 @ 05:56 AM by nitrork
reply to post by aptness


Have you looked at the document yourself? It's available to download, and with any hex editor you can clearly see it has been edited with photoshop. Aside from any defense as to why it was imported into a graphical editor, if you took even 30 seconds to view the document in detail for yourself, you can clearly see areas of the document have been changed in hard pixel increments. Do you really think that a legit certificate would be printed, written on, and then finalized with digitally altered signatures? If your answer is yes then I think there is an issue with who you think is the party beyond hope

Also, I don't know what you consider to be a "professional," but I am a 3D and classical animator and have worked with any graphic interface you can name. In my educated opinion, it doesn't take a genius to note the altercations that have been made to the document. A genuine ink signature scanned digitally can be easily distinguished from that of a digitally forged one.


reply posted on 5-7-2011 @ 06:00 AM by tombangelta
reply to post by UcDat


I don't understand the people bashing this. I don't live in the US but surely you can understand the importance of your president being born in the USA.

I mean FFS if there is any doubt what so ever this needs investigating.



reply posted on 5-7-2011 @ 06:08 AM by GovtFlu
Originally posted by Americanist
reply to post by aptness


Do you use Adobe PS or Illustrator professionally?


Those darn experts are messing with their messiah.. "must rally blindly, obey, obey, believe what you are told, do not question authority, shop, stay asleep, take your pills you crazy flawed mofo!!!... repeat"

That liar who calls himself president only has credibility with those drowning in nationalism delusion & denial... and those left who still think voting GOP or DNC isn't national suicide.

Rock on sheeple!!.. remember: your govt loves you and never lies... that dude might be a fake, but his digital paperwork is all real. Like his promises of change.


reply posted on 5-7-2011 @ 06:15 AM by Kitilani
Originally posted by nitrork
reply to post by aptness


Have you looked at the document yourself? It's available to download,


No it is not and that is why you birthers will continue to fail.


reply posted on 5-7-2011 @ 06:26 AM by malcr
Originally posted by nitrork
reply to post by aptness


Have you looked at the document yourself? It's available to download, and with any hex editor you can clearly see it has been edited with photoshop. Aside from any defense as to why it was imported into a graphical editor, if you took even 30 seconds to view the document in detail for yourself, you can clearly see areas of the document have been changed in hard pixel increments. Do you really think that a legit certificate would be printed, written on, and then finalized with digitally altered signatures? If your answer is yes then I think there is an issue with who you think is the party beyond hope

Also, I don't know what you consider to be a "professional," but I am a 3D and classical animator and have worked with any graphic interface you can name. In my educated opinion, it doesn't take a genius to note the altercations that have been made to the document. A genuine ink signature scanned digitally can be easily distinguished from that of a digitally forged one.

And the TPTB that are part of a huge conspiracy to get Obama into power and are forging all these documents. Not just the Birth Certificate but all traces of his mothers location at the time of his birth (she has to be there !!!) have also been forged or misplaced.

BUT they are incompetant enough to place a photoshopped image that can be proved to be fake.........anybody who believes that they would make a trivial and obvious mistake like that really has proverbial brown stuff for brains.
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