It's Official: Experts says Barrack Obama's Birth Certificate is a Forged Document

reply to post by Kitilani


I thought you were a birther?

but, look at all this info !!






man those Jesuits are som'th'n else arne't they?

they are like a secret military of the Vatican !

wouldn't it be somethi'n if they have control over world leaders ?

after all the Vatican did claim all land west of the Azores in 1493 I think.

I don't recall the Vatican ever rescinding that claim.

well well, I would have to say that this document is implying that all U.S. Presidents have been compromised.

fuel for thought.

juicy stuff here..........

Originally posted by xuenchen
reply to post by Kitilani

 

I thought you were a birther?

but, look at all this info !!

Still? All along? Since that one post that was supposed to be recognized as sarcastic by anyone familiar with my posts? What now?

man those Jesuits are som'th'n else arne't they?

they are like a secret military of the Vatican !

wouldn't it be somethi'n if they have control over world leaders ?

after all the Vatican did claim all land west of the Azores in 1493 I think.

I don't recall the Vatican ever rescinding that claim.

well well, I would have to say that this document is implying that all U.S. Presidents have been compromised.

fuel for thought.

juicy stuff here..........

Charlie Sheen was right all along!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Now I am not sure if you are being serious or not. I believe 3rd eye is serious but you might be joking and I cannot be sure how to respond. I will just make myself clear. This whole vatican/Nazi plot to put Obama in office I guess deserves its own thread if there is anything to it other than fantasy.

reply to post by Kitilani


I guess you just don't know who I am?

there is new news releases today from July 12th.

source
State programmer identifies template for Obama 'forgery'
High-level engineer demonstrates how Nordyke birth certificates used

A prominent software engineer claims the Obama birth certificate released by the White House was forged by using as templates the birth certificates of twins born in Hawaii one day after the president.

The engineer, a high-level programmer for a state government, spoke on condition of anonymity but contends his analysis is self-evident. He previously, as WND reported, presented evidence that the signature of Obama's mother on the president's document is proof of fraud. He believes forgers used the registration numbers of the birth certificates belonging to Gretchen and Susan Nordyke, 10637 and 10638, to create the Obama birth certificate number, 10641.

the article shows evidence from all BC's !!!
with pictures of the certificate numbers and how it was done !!!
the size and proportions seem identical on the twins and on Obama's.
The claims are that MSPaint was used and Photoshop.
Opinions are expert.

OP confirmation:

sister article
Adobe book editor agrees

Mara Zebest, the nationally recognized computer expert who has served as contributing author and technical editor for many books on Adobe software, agrees that forgers used the Nordyke twins' document as a template.

"I believe the Nordyke image played a significant role in compiling Obama's document," she wrote in her report on the Obama birth certificate fraud, concluding that the Nordyke twins' birth certificates were "the ultimate template" for the Obama birth certificate final product.

Zebest attributed the curvature observed in the Obama birth certificate to the curvature observed in the Nordyke photostats.

"When viewing Obama's document for the first time, one of the first items that struck me as odd (especially if still applying common sense) was the curvature on the left edge of the document," she wrote. "To make matters worse, I could see evidence that the poor quality text seems to be digitally manipulated to mimic the curvature.

a picture of Susan Nordyke holding two old birth certificates
seems to have that "gleam" in her eyes !!



this has been discovered before, with some references to Bill Ayers and his phony I.D. rackets in Chicago.
He does not advertise publicly however.
Ayers and wife are very good friends of the Obamas !
It is common knowledge around Chicago that if someone needs a high level I.D., Ayers is the guy to see first and foremost, but sources say he is not cheap.

Originally posted by xuenchen
reply to post by Kitilani

 

I guess you just don't know who I am?

Am I supposed to care?

The engineer, a high-level programmer for a state government, spoke on condition of anonymity but contends his analysis is self-evident. He previously, as WND reported

You really take this stuff seriously?

Originally posted by Kitilani

Originally posted by xuenchen
reply to post by Kitilani

 

I guess you just don't know who I am?

[color=cyan]Am I supposed to care?

The engineer, a high-level programmer for a state government, spoke on condition of anonymity but contends his analysis is self-evident. He previously, as WND reported

You really take this stuff seriously?

No, you don't have to care, and don't feel bad, you are not alone.....

there are around 6 billion other people who don't care either !!

You really take this stuff seriously?

yes and no.

the BC issue as far as i am concerned is moot as far as eligibility.

i think Obama's REAL Father was born right here in the good 'ol USA.

i think "daddy-o" was a famous black man and Obama was born in an "at home" setting considering the times.
things were 100% different in 1961.

just WHO, i am not positive.

there are at least 3 possibilities.

i do believe Ann is Obama's real Mother and her family had government ties.

this forgery is a concern because i do not believe for a split second that "Obama Sr." is the Father.

DNA would be the ONLY answer.

i think they "assumed" no one would dare question this man's word.

too many questionable coincidences to make me believe Obama & Co. are telling the whole truth here.

too many known liers in the White House.

too much cover-it-up tactics and using the "I'm the Bully here not you" routine, and selective answers to selective questions.

too many "other" documents and old photographs that don't add up either.
all unanswered in the whole.

not enough convincing by the "Defenders" .... not enough genuine proof .... always a new question after one is answered and passed off as truth in radical fashion of course.

they just can't seem to get that old hound off their front lawn ... he keeps getting away every day!

too much "rabid" defending when there should be no questions at all !!
they make it too obvious sometimes.

the "condition of anonymity" is not a bad idea ..... people get killed for less !

[color=limegreen]how 'bout those certificate numbers anyway ?
they do look a little "OFF" now don't they ?

disclaimer: this is all speculation and IMO only.

reply to post by xuenchen


L4t me jump in here for a minute:

the BC issue as far as i am concerned is moot as far as eligibility.

i think Obama's REAL Father was born right here in the good 'ol USA.

i think "daddy-o" was a famous black man and Obama was born in an "at home" setting considering the times.
things were 100% different in 1961.

just WHO, i am not positive.

there are at least 3 possibilities.

At least 3 is true. I have one that I don't know if you've considered... a family friend/photographer who took some 'spicey' photos of Mama Obama....

patdollard.com...

But in my mind there is no doubt that the man officially advertised as Daddy Barry is NOT his father.

The birthers are getting more pathetic everyday now Obama has proven he was born in Hawaii, is a natural born citizen and the legal President.

All their 'court cases" have failed miserably so they have resorted to photoshopped pictures of someone they claim is his mother, and the silly claim his father is not his real father!

reply to post by mishigas


Frank Marshall Davis is definitely one possibility.

very close connections to Ann's family, and may have been a low level govt agent.

and Obama wrote about him.

Davis was a marxist.

the pictures have "family resemblances" also !!!

check the pic of Davis on a horse as a young boy!

Davis

Pictures

Influence

en.wikipedia.org...

reply to post by xuenchen


Wow! You've done some research, man!

You said there were at least 3 possibilities.... care to mention them here, or u2u if you prefer?

Even taking into consideration "allowing non-U.S born citizens to run for President" (which I wouldn't agree with for any country's government) the blatant cover-up speaks volumes about desperation in this Democracy.
I have kept a "poly-racial" heart and mind with friendship all of my life and I'm the palest person in the room sometimes.. people of color whether they are leaders or followers or pioneers or idiots they can be just the same white.

So when I was 21 I felt that voting for someone different might actually be different. I couldn't vote because I've got ex-offender status for the time being, but I surely would have voted Obama. But it's still all a scam. And I feel good that I wasn't able to contribute after all.

It's a terrible situation, since it was inflamed by the media and even in the assertions that follow behind the President covering up his birth certificate?! His real identity? The man leading the country? Come on now.. even the snake President Rancher admitted to playing with his nose when he was younger.

This stuff will boil and nothing will ever, ever come of it. Clinton got a surprise one day in the office and the entire world comes crashing at his doorstep. Obama could possibly be unconstitutionally the President of the United States..
crazy stuff.

reply to post by mishigas

care to mention them here, or u2u if you prefer?

a few have been discussed here
www.abovetopsecret.com...

and here
www.abovetopsecret.com...

and those BC numbers do look a little "Odd" !!

Originally posted by xuenchen
reply to post by mishigas

 

care to mention them here, or u2u if you prefer?

a few have been discussed here
www.abovetopsecret.com...

and here
www.abovetopsecret.com...

and those BC numbers do look a little "Odd" !

!

Discussed?
Got my hopes up. All I see is "mentioned." So is this an acute case of anyblackguywilldo?
So what looks "odd" to you?

Originally posted by xuenchen
and those BC numbers do look a little "Odd"

They look exactly like what you would expect them to, when stamped with one of these or similiar!

www.theofficedealer.com...

reply to post by Kitilani

Discussed?
Got my hopes up. All I see is "mentioned." So is this an acute case of anyblackguywilldo?
So what looks "odd" to you?

no,

it's not "an acute case of anyblackguywilldo"

who said that anyway ?

and why would Obama's father not be black ? ~~

just pointing out other people's points of view.

whether i agree or not is inmaterial.

just answering questions with what i know about.

the whole BC looks odd to me.

but i see one reasonable explanation from spoor's response above !

the "rubber stamp" theory makes some sense ...... yes/no ?

Originally posted by spoor

Originally posted by xuenchen
and those BC numbers do look a little "Odd"

They look exactly like what you would expect them to, when stamped with one of these or similiar!

www.theofficedealer.com...

edit on 16-7-2011 by spoor because: (no reason given)

the rubber stamp idea makes sense !

might explain the blurs.

those things are not like a printer or even a good typewriter, especially one made in 1961.

reply to post by Kitilani

Discussed?
Got my hopes up. All I see is "mentioned." So is this an acute case of anyblackguywilldo?
So what looks "odd" to you?

not to sway away from the OP which focuses on the BC numbers.

after 40 pages here,

not much was talked about concerning those numbers.

i may have been the only one to post those pictures of the numbers.

i think that was the intent.

this pic from the OP reference is questioning the "date stamps".

maybe they used a similar stamper as used in the certificate numbers ?

and they are questioning a spelling error (hardly legible however :lol;

Exhibit 4 also notes the misspelling of "THE" in the rubber stamp placed on the document by the Hawaii State Register Alvin Onaka, Ph.D.

here is a clearer pic of the "spelling error";

"TXE" should be "THE" ????

unless "TXE" has some other reference or meaning or abreviation ?



do other BC's from that time show the same "error" ?

HHmmmm........

you would think the "H" should look like the H in "THIS" and "HAWAII" and "HEALTH" ?

reply to post by xuenchen


Gosh I cannot think of anyway for a hand inked stamp to put down an apparent "X" instead of an "H."

None at all. Gosh, "of" sure looks funny too. I wonder how something like that could ever happen with a hand stamp.
Surely it is part of some big conspiracy. That makes the most sense.

some people may not understand this dilemma.

selecting the BC pdf from the gov website as a copy & paste to a new word doc produces this monstrosity.

it's things like this that make people leery and untrusting.

~!!~



www.whitehouse.gov...

can someone explain in plain English ?