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Originally posted by vjr1113
reply to post by Mr Mask
gawd im gonna sound really crazy but what if they did it on purpose. if what you say is true (and im gonna have to research), the only reason i can think of is they did it on purpose. although they don't seem really scared about ppl looking into it. obama even joked about it on camera.
Originally posted by TheOrangeBrood
Wow,
Another bro-birther thread with absolutely no point.
I would love to see you folks flail around in a courtroom...
Trying to condemn people that you are incapable of even establishing a motive for.
It's adorable.
"I promise that this is relevant somehow, Mr. judge, promise. I promise."
Originally posted by spoor
Originally posted by TheOrangeBrood
Wow,
Another bro-birther thread with absolutely no point.
I would love to see you folks flail around in a courtroom...
Trying to condemn people that you are incapable of even establishing a motive for.
It's adorable.
"I promise that this is relevant somehow, Mr. judge, promise. I promise."
To see nonsense in a courtroom just look at Orly Oaitz's birther court cases - a judge even fined her for being moronic!
A process server has delivered a Hawaii court-issued subpoena to Loretta J. Fuddy, Director of the Hawaii Department of Health, commanding her “to produce at the time, date, and place set forth below the following documents, electronically stored information, or objects, and permit their inspection, copying testing, or sampling of the material:” original 1961 typewritten birth certificate #10641 for Barack Obama, III [sic] issued 08.08.1961, signed by Dr. David Sinclair, Stanley Ann Dunham Obama and registrar Lee, stored in the Health Department of the State of HI from 08081961 until now. The subpoena allows Fuddy until August 8, 2011 at 10:00 a.m. to produce the document.
Originally posted by ontarff
It isn't about a personal attack on our elected President, it is a question on the legitimate proof that has not yet been provided by the State of Hawaii.
Originally posted by UcDat
along with the rest of his public records. Even if no one had any reason to doubt him unlike Obama all of his record were available even some of the ones he didnt want known and his past is an open book. Like all the rest of them except nObama.
Originally posted by CarlitosAmsel
Say, do you have to be told by an "Official" to finaly believe something is true?
Why wait for an "Official", when experts all over already told you the truth? Oh, but they were not believable, because they wer not Officials. You are a modern time American, arent you?
Originally posted by thetruthseeker789
So what is going to happen to Obama now> Is he just going to continue to be a president????
Originally posted by spoor
Originally posted by UcDat
along with the rest of his public records. Even if no one had any reason to doubt him unlike Obama all of his record were available even some of the ones he didnt want known and his past is an open book. Like all the rest of them except nObama.
So link us to the last 5 Presidents birth certificates, passport records, all their school/college/university records and full medical records that were released whilst they were President.
Originally posted by Mr Mask
I am not questioning his eligibility as president.
The subject of this thread is Mara Zebest testifying before the National Press Club that she is a self proclaimed expert and finds anomalies within the BC released.
Not reading the thread must be the reason you jumped to birther talk...I can forgive that I guess.
I just don't understand why the BC has anomalies.
PS- Not a birther.
MM
Originally posted by fredthebed84
reply to post by cal71919
I think that they should change the law anyway so that you don't need to be borne in the USA to be President. When someone becomes a citizen, they are supposed to get the same rights as all other citizens. And they do except for one thing. They can never be president of the United States
Originally posted by Kitilani
It does not have anomalies.
The answer you seek can be found in "self proclaimed."
Originally posted by aptness
Because I have evaluated those so called ‘problems’ and didn’t reach the same conclusion you did.
Originally posted by Amaterasu
Because You are untrained? See above for how You too can spot the problems.
Huh? [sigh] Oh you love to twist. I am saying (and was there too) that the PDF BC provided on the web by the POTUS Himself is, indeed, a forgery. Where is the fallacy?
Was I supposed to have guess that’s what you meant? Because this is what you said:
Originally posted by Amaterasu
The BC is a forgery.
So now that you apparently claim to have never said the birth certificate is a forgery, if your only contention is that the digital file posted on the WH website has been manipulated, then your argument is truly irrelevant.
Barack Obama’s proof of citizenship is not the PDF file, but an actual physical document issued and certified by the state of Hawaii.
If you are saying that the PDF file, which was not a valid or legal birth certificate in the first place, has been manipulated, you have demonstrated that something that couldn’t be used as proof, can’t be used as proof. In other words, and this is what I have argued back on page 1 of this thread, the PDF file is irrelevant.
By the way, have you looked at the high resolution image of the copy of the birth certificate handed out to reporters at the Apr 27 2011 WH press conference? Can you spot any of the so called ‘problems’ you allege are present in the PDF?