Originally posted by Kitilani
Issue 1: Adobe expert claims.
-No proof of any "adobe expert" status has been shown. It is just a person who contributed to some books claiming to be an adobe expert. Birthers
readily accept that she is without proof.]
I am not questioning Mara's credentials. I am questioning the fact that I have used Illustrator for 15+years and find no reason why there should be a
link history showing images of various sizes and alignments.
Mara is simply one of the thousands who are bringing up the same anomalies. I don't care if you are an expert or a Wal-Mart door greeter. If you get
the argument on a technical side (as you plainly show you do not), you will tend to sympathize with Mara no matter who she is.
Donald Trump has also gone on record saying he has experts who find 100% proof of the document being fake and states the same reasons I and many
others also state or agree with.
But you have posted more nonsense from a non-technical and hostile/parroting position, so lets move on.
Issue 2: There is a problem with the birth certificate as claimed by said "expert."
-This expert never had access to anything but a digital file and the "issues" highlighted do nothing to take away from the validity of the document
itself. Any expert in digital imaging would know that.
Absolutely not. The PDF was a scanned copy of a hard paper file. There should be no link history showing images were added of various sizes. At best
there would be layers as OCR would break them apart as it recognized them.
The link history shows "added" images that were resized and realigned "before" being added to the doc.
There should be no images on their side, they should be as seen on the doc. And they shouldn't show any history of being resized to "nonmatching"
But you think you just delivered a technical answer that sums this up, don't you Mr Cat?
Alls you are doing is showing that you don't know a damn thing about Illustrator's functioning link history aspect.
Something most people learn and count on within their first week of learning Illustrator. The same reason so many "experts/nonexperts" (whatever you
feel good about slandering) say this doc is not only forged, but badly and in a way that shows an amateur has done it.
I know if I released that doc I would 100% know before hand that it would create an instant chaos. It would have been easy, in fact EASIER to just hit
"flatten image", erasing any debate whatsoever. In fact, the first thing you do when you export any file from an Adobe program is flatten it.
Its stupid not to.
Issue 3: There are anomalies in the PDF file that show tampering or manipulation.
-That is the result of the white house manipulating it as they have said they had.
So wait...that is your BIG GUN EXPLANATION!!!?
ARE YOU CRAPPING ME!?
Seriously sir...you say that the Whitehouse admitting to altering a scanned doc (a thing not needed in anyway when presenting a doc) is the answer?
Thousands of people are saying the doc was altered and manipulated...and your calling them stupid and saying "well the Whitehouse altered and
You must be joking...well thanks for showing me just how "zero" your insight into this is...let me clue you in on something.
If you scan a doc, there is NO REASON to alter it, take it into Illustrator and then manipulate it, unless you are trying to build something different
then the doc at hand.
Issue 4: OCR does not explain it.
-No and that is why the whitehouse said it had been optimized and enhanced. These things do explain it.
OH REALLY!? Optimized and enhanced eh? Let me help you further since you are basically screaming "I never used an adobe product in my life and I just
suck up stupid explanations and accept them as long as they are given to me by the TV".
Enhancing or optimizing a doc or image (a thing I have personally had to do professionally and personally hundreds of thousands of times, hell even
about 20 times today) WILL NOT return you a doc file with a link history showing images came from somewhere "on their side" and at "different
This is why so many folks are calling shenanigans...not because of racism or birther conflicts. Because Illustrator dosnt work that way nor should it
ever. UNLESS you added images from another source and then resized and realigned them.
Issue 4: He is a fraud anyway rah rah rah we were right, it is official.
Call me Mr again too because that makes you look like you know how to read and interpret information each time you do it since I corrected you on that
Actually Mr Cat, it is you who needs to learn to read and understand information..if one thing in this thread "is official" it is that you do not
know a damn thing about photo editing or any adobe product. I have stated I am looking for an answer that makes sense. You have failed and proven you
don't even understand the argument.
In other words...you are not even a noob-user. You are a typical citizen who has no idea about Adobe products and how they work.
Thanks for clearing that up. In doing so you have shown me what I have suspected-
The Adobe community is flabbergasted and demanding answers, while the ill-informed and adobe-clueless are supporting or not supporting this based on
"mind washing rhetoric that has nothing to do with this".
No wonder you have to time and time again resort to personal attacks that have nothing to do with the BC anomalies...you wouldn't know an Adobe doc
from an adobe hut.
Sorry, I'm looking for answers that make sense...not "crap that makes no sense from a guy pretending he knows what he is talking about".
Thanks for failing to produce an answer and then shoving this pile of nonsense in my direction. You have wasted my valuable time, I'll not do that to
you any longer. Enjoy living in a bubble of nonsense and hate. Me? Well, I'll be looking for answers since I don't very much enjoy parroting
nonsense I saw on TV to explain away a problem. Like you obveiously are addicted to doing, Mr Cat.
I guess its back to the searching of Adobe forums for me.