The Destruction of the Temple by Jonathan Kleck, page 1

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Topic started on 4-7-2011 @ 02:53 PM by Macabees

Hi ATS,

This should be in it's proper place. Mods please move this thread if needed to a new home if needed. The target audience for this is Christians who are waiting for a third temple to be built to fulfill prophecy. The destruction of the Temple is going on inside of us now. All of Jonathan's videos can be found on Tribulation-Now www.tribulation-now.org... as well as you tube. They are online as they have a habit of being removed from time to time from YT.

The Akhenaten Nefratiti Hieroglyph has been decoded

Here is the you tube video for Destruction of the Temple, Part 1 of 3 while it is still online. I am interested in hearing comments from folks on this.

YouTube Link

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reply posted on 4-7-2011 @ 03:28 PM by Macabees

Here are the other two videos in case you folks are interested. When I saw these the first time; it was a major Whiskey Tango Foxtrot moment for me.

YouTube Link

reply posted on 4-7-2011 @ 05:49 PM by stupid girl

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Can you give us a summary or synopsis of the videos?
It may help your thread if you add more commentary regarding the topic.
Many on ATS will not bother with a thread that basically just has a title then says "watch the video".....
myself included.

reply posted on 4-7-2011 @ 10:51 PM by Macabees

Originally posted by stupid girl
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Can you give us a summary or synopsis of the videos?
It may help your thread if you add more commentary regarding the topic.
Many on ATS will not bother with a thread that basically just has a title then says "watch the video".....
myself included.

I will try; this is a pretty deep topic. Basically; the The Akhenaten Nefratiti Hieroglyph has been decoded to show that the destruction of the temple is happening inside of us. In video 1; you see the double helix dna unraveling and going straight into the back of the head of both Akhenaten and Nefratiti

We are being destroyed from the mixing of fallen angel DNA; with human DNA. While many people are waiting for the third Temple to understand we are in the great tribulation. This video shows that is already in progress, and there is nothing left to wait on.

I'm not the video author; but I know him, and he is a great spirit filled Christian who explains what I am stumbling to say pretty well in 20 minutes. Also, he shows hidden meaning inside of the Akhenaten Nefratiti which shows a lamb being killed, serpents growing out of the images, even a picture of Satan. I hope this helps in some way understand the complexity of this subject. It is definately worth the time invested to get a fresh perspective on this.

reply posted on 5-7-2011 @ 01:46 AM by Greensage

What a blessing to be able to witness through a seer! Jonathan is blessed and his message is one that I will hold true to my heart.

When the Alien/Demons show themselves en-mass, I will not allow them the privilege to harvest me for their own evil intentions, I am a sheep and I will not be consumed/fooled so easily!

Jonathan's calling is a burden only he can carry but the work he has created will open our hearts if we dare to save our Souls! In the most critical time of all of Domesticated Man's accent we must actively become Whole!

Bravo OP for bringing this on board for me to see!

reply posted on 5-7-2011 @ 09:21 AM by Macabees

Originally posted by Greensage
What a blessing to be able to witness through a seer! Jonathan is blessed and his message is one that I will hold true to my heart.

When the Alien/Demons show themselves en-mass, I will not allow them the privilege to harvest me for their own evil intentions, I am a sheep and I will not be consumed/fooled so easily!

Jonathan's calling is a burden only he can carry but the work he has created will open our hearts if we dare to save our Souls! In the most critical time of all of Domesticated Man's accent we must actively become Whole!

Bravo OP for bringing this on board for me to see!

Hi Greensage,

It sure is a blessing to see someone understand what the Lord shared with Jonathan. He is a Seer and a humble; spirit filled Christian who wants nothing more than to spread the good news. Blessings Greensage !

reply posted on 5-7-2011 @ 09:52 AM by Greensage

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Thank you! Really Thank you for posting this as I would never have found it otherwise.

I was always so fearful of words such as "harvest", but now I see things so much differently. I was always one of those people who could not read the bible. I tried and my "literal" mind could not comprehend it. I would jump into threads and websites pertaining to scripture because deep inside I felt the stirring and the calling, and yes I have the voices too. I just never could meld myself around what I was reading or what I was hearing. I often would walk away shaking my head.

Everything Jonathan said confirms my own inner belief that Aliens are nothing more than Demons. I have always been a life-long lucid dreamer and I have seen things beyond this reality, a hyper-reality. As much as I have been touched by that dark side of ourselves throughout my life I have spent that life doing for others and caring for others in an attempt at redemption. I was fearful that I was touched by the Serpent and that I was marked by the Serpent; I now know why the Serpent spent so much time trying to convince me of that because I am not.

I have consciously chosen GOD and Christ above all of it. I have actively participated in forgiving myself as I forgive others and yet this Demon part of me has replayed and replayed itself over and over in an attempt to gain control; this tells me I am "saved". I am saved because they are working so hard at convincing me otherwise.

I reject all UFO/Alien/Demon notions and I vibrate within to a new level. I know that I will not be any less a part of the Tribulation which is about to unfold, I only know that when I am harvested I will be gathered by our Lord, not the Devil and his fooling ways.

My earliest beginnings I was led to believe I was worthless and that I would go to Hell, and yet I have never committed a crime and I become ill inside if I participate in a Lie. I just cannot lie and I open my past, my Truth, to anyone who wishes to know it.

I am isolated because I reject lies so much so that I am unable to cope in Society. I cannot go into public without being effected by them so negatively that I curse them and it scares people and makes me appear hostile. I am not a mean person, I am a loving caring person, this is why I have locked myself away. I am free of alcohol, of drugs, and of the chemicals that are placed in us and my levels of sensitivity have become 10-fold. I am the mirror who shows others who they are; if I am adored it is only because an adoring person is seeing me, if I am detested it is only because I am being looked upon by the detestable. It is my burden so I remain hidden from view.

I am going to spend the entire day viewing all of Jonathan's videos. I am certain by the end I will be in tears as I comprehend the arrival of our Lord!

Thank you again!

reply posted on 5-7-2011 @ 10:51 AM by Macabees

Praise that you have been able to come to grips with what is going on. I actually sit on the sidelines for almost 30 years in a fallen away state after not being able to come to grips with what was going on. Like yourself; I always knew that it was very real; but, didn't know what my purpose was in the scope of the Kingdom. That all changed on a sunny summer day in 2007 during a fast. Blessings and hang in there with what you know in your heart is true.

reply posted on 5-7-2011 @ 11:01 AM by Byrd

Originally posted by MacabeesWhen I saw these the first time; it was a major Whiskey Tango Foxtrot moment for me.

As well it should be.

Here's a guy who knows nothing about hieroglyphs and nothing about ancient Egypt, interpreting a panel that has writing on it. The effect is very much like watching an illiterate tribesman from the "recently discovered tribe in the Amazons" standing in front of a picture of the Wall Street Journal and telling us that WSJ is talking about how Xbalenque is causing the destruction of the Olmec culture using the photos on the pages.

The wall panel names Ahkenaten, his wife, and their three daughters. I can't find a picture good enough for me to start translating what's there, but we do have his names and his wife's name and the name of the Aten (deity.) There is nothing at all about Jerusalem, Jews, temples, or any other Christian topic.

File this one under "people will pretend to be an authority on something, particularly when they can't READ what's written on the wall." He has an agenda, and I suspect that he'd be capable of pulling the same message out of *any* ancient piece of art, no matter what is really written on the artwork.

reply posted on 5-7-2011 @ 11:05 AM by Byrd

Originally posted by Macabees
Also, he shows hidden meaning inside of the Akhenaten Nefratiti which shows a lamb being killed, serpents growing out of the images, even a picture of Satan.

Actually, what's revealed is a bad case of pareidolia -- and that he has never studied Egyptian art or seen how the same techniques are used (in other panels with writing on them) in art. Now he's finding images in stylized drawings of clothing and is using that to foster his personal beliefs and personal interpretations.

Again, you could do this with any piece of art that you liked, including XKCD comics. All you have to do is ignore the text on the panels.

reply posted on 5-7-2011 @ 12:07 PM by Macabees

Originally posted by Byrd

Originally posted by Macabees
Also, he shows hidden meaning inside of the Akhenaten Nefratiti which shows a lamb being killed, serpents growing out of the images, even a picture of Satan.

Actually, what's revealed is a bad case of pareidolia -- and that he has never studied Egyptian art or seen how the same techniques are used (in other panels with writing on them) in art. Now he's finding images in stylized drawings of clothing and is using that to foster his personal beliefs and personal interpretations.

Again, you could do this with any piece of art that you liked, including XKCD comics. All you have to do is ignore the text on the panels.

You don't believe that creator of the world could pass us information hidden somewhere that may have nothing to do with Christianity? Are you a believer taking this stance? An unbeliever? Just trying to get a better understanding of your position. Thanks.

reply posted on 6-7-2011 @ 08:58 PM by Byrd

Originally posted by Macabees
You don't believe that creator of the world could pass us information hidden somewhere that may have nothing to do with Christianity? Are you a believer taking this stance? An unbeliever? Just trying to get a better understanding of your position. Thanks.

I am someone who can read ancient Egyptian (and rather badly.) I think that if any deity was trying to pass along a message, the LAST thing they'd do (if they wanted it understood) is to encode in a culture that couldn't understand the message for a culture group that might NOT exist in the future and with references that the future culture may not understand.

It might be true if there's no free will, of course.

If language in humans changes according to some divine plan and cultures follow a divine plan then I guess it's plausible. But if you believe in a guarantee of free will, then things change in ways that can't be predicted. If they can be predicted, then it's not free will.

reply posted on 7-7-2011 @ 06:15 AM by Macabees

Thanks very much. I wanted to understand your side and where you were coming from. That explains it quite nicely.

I wanted to explain why it means what it does for me. The ancient Egyptians worshiped star gods; that some Christians believe were the fallen angels, and Christians direct enemies. If our enemies influenced that drawing, they could take a moment to rub it in our faces. That is what I feel.

Thanks again for clarifying your comments.

Peace

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reply posted on 7-7-2011 @ 09:25 PM by Byrd

Originally posted by Macabees
I wanted to explain why it means what it does for me. The ancient Egyptians worshiped star gods;

They didn't. In fact, there were no real associations with deities and stars. The circumpolar stars ("undying ones" were where the souls of the dead pharaohs went but they weren't worshiped. The deities associated with the sun changed depending on where and when you were in Egypt (so, early on we have Horus and Bast and Hathor associated with the sun, and then Ra and Amun -- Kephri if you were in Thebes and so on and so forth.)

that some Christians believe were the fallen angels, and Christians direct enemies.

I don't think that the early Christians believed this (though they did seem to take some of the names of demons from Sumerian and Babylonian deities. This isn't surprising since they were conquered by those civilizations.) The early Christians would have taken their texts from the torah (where the term for "angel" is "malak" (messenger). This word is translated as "angel" every time it appears and isn't associated with stars or any name from Egypt. When the word, "Elohim" appears, it seems to refer to a divinity who judges (the Christian deity) or messengers/judges (the list of entries is too long to go over, but you can view them over at Strong's concordance: www.blueletterbible.com...

The term, "Fallen Angel" actually doesn't appear in the Bible (see Strong's concordance: www.blueletterbible.com...)

In Revelation, as with most of the Greek texts, the term is "aggelos" and means (roughly) messenger -- same as Hebrew. In this ancient text, the "minions of Satan" are called the "Synagogue of Satan" (See Revelation 2:9, 3:9) www.beliefnet.com...

So what you've come across is actually a modern belief that is not supported by anyone (scholars) who have studied the Bible and the associated manuscripts in their original languages (or, rather, the oldest versions of these texts.) I have seen similar videos by people who have been "inspired" by texts in the Bible... but who haven't been inspired enough to sit down and read the whole Bible AND the other religious texts and letters AND read a concordance to check the accuracy of the translations.

And in this case, he doesn't know anything about the panels or the writing that's there (quite literally under his nose.)

(disclaimer: I can't read Hebrew, but I can "sort of make sense out of" Greek if it's typed in "English" alphabet and I can "flounder along" in Latin. Very badly, but enough to see if a Bible verse is being translated correctly. I think the people who make these claims have not studied the Bible in any language other than English and may not correctly understand the older English of the King James' Bible.)

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