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Kerry the war hero?

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posted on Aug, 11 2004 @ 10:51 AM
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It just doesn't add up. 5 medals in four months? How is that even possible? Even Audie Murphy couldn't do that. I admit I never served in the military but I am asking those who did, How is it possible to be awarded 5 medals in 4 months? For that matter how is it possible he even served only four months? Can any vets out there enlighten me?




posted on Aug, 11 2004 @ 10:57 AM
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I want to stress something. Kerry served his country and for that I am eternally grateful.

But...

Narcissist of epic preportions. went back and reenacted his exploits on film and passed them off as they were filmed in real time. Then showed them to his bosses. That is how you get medals that quick.

The man set up his future political carrer. Great for marketing but as a President...?



posted on Aug, 11 2004 @ 11:00 AM
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Really, what you cannot believe? I cannot still believe Bush is such a coward when he evaded going to war and staying in Texas and lest not forget the unavailable time missing from his time in the National Guard also. Maybe if he has gotten to serve in Vietnam front lines he will have a medal of honor also. Right?.

Nevertheless, occurs papa bush will not allow that to his precious son.

So how hard can it be that somebody else risked his life in the war and got honor for it?

Sometimes we believe only what we want and disbelief what we cannot understand instead



posted on Aug, 11 2004 @ 11:02 AM
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I somehow have a feeling that a person who was in actual combat would think twice before sending others to die, and wouldn't do so to "just liberate Iraqi people". That's just a terribly high price to pay. So I trust him on being more considerate in waging war.



posted on Aug, 11 2004 @ 11:05 AM
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Marge... gotta ask.

Bill Clinton. Went to school in England to evade the war. Coward?



posted on Aug, 11 2004 @ 11:10 AM
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You know what, he admit it too in public television he did not hide behind the "national guard" and then boasted his prowess in a jet "flying" to look good for the public as a war "pilot" wannabe and never was.

Nothing personal, Just fun.

I love politics



posted on Aug, 11 2004 @ 11:11 AM
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Originally posted by Aelita
I somehow have a feeling that a person who was in actual combat would think twice before sending others to die, and wouldn't do so to "just liberate Iraqi people". That's just a terribly high price to pay. So I trust him on being more considerate in waging war.


Lets get one thing straight...the President didn't send ANYBODY out to DIE...that is a slanderous and unbelievably stupid remark. Our military is the best trained and equipped in the world, period. We weren't sent out to die for our country, we were sent out to make the other guy die for HIS country...

And merge, get over the "evaded going to war" thing. It's been disproved time and time again. Bush served in the Air National Guard. He was simply never SENT to Viet Nam. No draft dodging, no AWOL, nothing.


I swear, there are too many people on this board that work for the Department of Redundancy Department...



posted on Aug, 11 2004 @ 11:15 AM
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Many of you know, I am a veteran of the Persian Gulf War. All I can say is that from my experience and from the experiences of my friends (Vietnam, Korean War and a POW), there is nothing strange about it depending on what you do and where you are. This is a desperate attempt to discredit a bona fide war hero. It is beneath contempt.
Listen to John McCain on this one.

I voted for Bush in 2000. NEVER AGAIN! As a veteran, I am standing up for John Kerry on this one and he will have my vote come November.

John Kerry ran TO the fight. When he didn't have to.
George Bush HID from it.
I have absolutely no respect for a coward. And I'd love to know, the man Bush condemned to go in his place.. did he make home alive and in once piece? I sure hope so. Otherwise, that's one more name to add to Bush's body count.



posted on Aug, 11 2004 @ 11:19 AM
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Affirmative Reaction,

Nothing personal and is marg, by the way as long as member bring the subject I will have my say so, you already has notice that I do not start threads I just post my views.


So is not me the one bringing the subject but others.


And by the way the comment at the end of your post sound like a direct target to me.


[edit on 11-8-2004 by marg6043]

[edit on 11-8-2004 by marg6043]



posted on Aug, 11 2004 @ 11:31 AM
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Originally posted by marg6043
Really, what you cannot believe? I cannot still believe Bush is such a coward when he evaded going to war and staying in Texas and lest not forget the unavailable time missing from his time in the National Guard also. Maybe if he has gotten to serve in Vietnam front lines he will have a medal of honor also. Right?.


The main difference, is that Kerry has suddently decided to use his Vietnam service as a centerpoint in his campaign. He opened it to questions, not anybody else. Reap what you sow.



posted on Aug, 11 2004 @ 11:37 AM
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I would like to see Cambodia Kerry hold a press conference and enlighten the nation as to what exactly did happen during his military career. Too many questions, and from Kerry, no answers. Possibly he could publicize his files and set his military record straight once and for all.



posted on Aug, 11 2004 @ 11:43 AM
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Originally posted by FredT

The main difference, is that Kerry has suddently decided to use his Vietnam service as a centerpoint in his campaign. He opened it to questions, not anybody else. Reap what you sow.


Yes I know Fred he brought it up for campaign and in my view he did it to show, because he was single out by the opposition for not having "experience" so he is proving that when it comes to war he has been there experience first hand a pretty much knows the results of war on the troops and the people.
and it this is for political gain well remember the famous bush stepping out of that jet....................it did make him look like quite the Commander in Chief it even fooled me for a while, I even felt proud of him, until I learned the true.



posted on Aug, 11 2004 @ 11:46 AM
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Originally posted by smokenmirrors
I would like to see Cambodia Kerry hold a press conference and enlighten the nation as to what exactly did happen during his military career. Too many questions, and from Kerry, no answers. Possibly he could publicize his files and set his military record straight once and for all.


Yes that will be interesting, and at the same time we should call Bush and ask him what happend to the missing years of his military career.

Hey!!!!!!!!how about a debate between bush and kerry in military records that will be something to see and remember for a long time.



posted on Aug, 11 2004 @ 11:51 AM
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Originally posted by Affirmative Reaction

Lets get one thing straight...the President didn't send ANYBODY out to DIE...that is a slanderous and unbelievably stupid remark. Our military is the best trained and equipped in the world, period. We weren't sent out to die for our country, we were sent out to make the other guy die for HIS country...


Ahhh exlently put, elequint and precice.. however. Let me ask you something. In this conflict who is the other guy? Terrorist? Saddam? What was the goal? What did the goal develop into? Has there ever been a difinitiv objective put forth from Bush other than "Fighting Evil" or "Giten rid of Terrorists"

Bush sent out our troops to fight against a faceless enemy with a vague objective. He took a situation where we had the support of the world against a terrorist faction in Afganistan and then made a sharp right turn to go fight a personal vendetta to be like his Daddy again and in the process lost all credibility, while building the perfect breeding ground for terrorists to thrive.

Without a difined objecitve, without the support of other nations, without a way to remove our troops safely. Bush lead our military into a minefield and forgot to give them a map of how to get out of it.

Wraith



posted on Aug, 11 2004 @ 11:53 AM
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Bush's record vs. Kerry's? There's absolutely no question who would wipe the floor with who.

Kerry may have only spent months in Vietnam fighting; but that's a helluva lot more than what the Shrub did. He couldn't even handle the National Guard. I'd bet my medals he straight deserted. That's punishable by death in wartime. As it should be.

This goes to show how far gone this nation is when a deserter is so good at skirting, he can become the president of the United States.

When is the media gonna start doing its job and hound Bush about those missing months and if he was, in fact, not just boozing, but snorting coke.

Who in their right mind would vote for that?


[edit on 19-09-2003 by EastCoastKid]



posted on Aug, 11 2004 @ 11:54 AM
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Originally posted by smokenmirrors
I would like to see Cambodia Kerry hold a press conference and enlighten the nation as to what exactly did happen during his military career. Too many questions, and from Kerry, no answers. Possibly he could publicize his files and set his military record straight once and for all.




Ummm Kerry's military records have been public domain since day one, anyone can look at his full records anytime they wish..

It is Bush's military records that have been, "misplaced" "incompleate" and "sealed" and are still not avalible.

Wraith



posted on Aug, 11 2004 @ 11:56 AM
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Originally posted by wraith30
It is Bush's military records that have been, "misplaced" "incompleate" and "sealed" and are still not avalible.

Wraith


How convenient, eh?



posted on Aug, 11 2004 @ 11:56 AM
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Originally posted by Affirmative Reaction

Lets get one thing straight...the President didn't send ANYBODY out to DIE...that is a slanderous and unbelievably stupid remark.


Ok, so I'm stupid. I figure all the US casualty numbers were made up. Nobody came home in a casket.



All I was gonna say he knew (as everybody else did) that a lot of people would die, despite your blah (correct) about the US military superiority. He waged the war on false pretense, and people die in wars. Of course that's a stupid statement according to you. Peace.



posted on Aug, 11 2004 @ 12:07 PM
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Kerry has not relesed his records and from eyewitness accounts 2 of his Purple Hearts may have been self inflicted...his Silver Star is also questionable.


Originally posted by wraith30

Originally posted by smokenmirrors
I would like to see Cambodia Kerry hold a press conference and enlighten the nation as to what exactly did happen during his military career. Too many questions, and from Kerry, no answers. Possibly he could publicize his files and set his military record straight once and for all.




Ummm Kerry's military records have been public domain since day one, anyone can look at his full records anytime they wish..

It is Bush's military records that have been, "misplaced" "incompleate" and "sealed" and are still not avalible.

Wraith



posted on Aug, 11 2004 @ 12:17 PM
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Apollyon says


Kerry has not relesed his records and from eyewitness accounts 2 of his Purple Hearts may have been self inflicted...his Silver Star is also questionable.


Actually, Kerry has released his military records. You can view them at

John Kerry's Official Naval Records

George Bush, on the other hand, has not released his military records. The White House released a sanitized version, which is what Richard Nixon called a modified, limited hangout. Now, no one can gain access to Bush's military records. The Associated Press is suing for their release.

A close examination of what Bush records are available clearly shows that Bush was both AWOL and a deserter. See the following link for details.

HOW BUSH FAILED TO FULFILL HIS DUTY




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