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Topic started on 3-7-2011 @ 01:29 PM by ADVISOR

The Science of Spying. NBC show narrated by John Chancellor donated to the US government. Purchased from the US National Archives...
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I'm always looking for these sorts of tid-bits and other related information. Has always been an interest of mine, so here is to sharing and intriguing conversation topics.

reply posted on 3-7-2011 @ 02:01 PM by Hessling

Great find!

I'm 10 minutes into the video and am completely fascinated by this subject. Sort of like a poorly hidden bit of our history coming to light. And to think this was made by a major media source and then donated to the US government. Wow!

We've got our hands stuck in the cookie jar pretty deep it seems.

"Oh! what a tangled web we weave
When first we practise to deceive!" ~ Sir Walter Scott

Now it's back to the video. I'll pop in later to see what other thought of it as well.

reply posted on 3-7-2011 @ 10:07 PM by The GUT

They don't make news like they use to *sigh* How utterly fascinating. And chilling in parts. Especially Dulles & Bissell's rather bureaucratic & ho-hum dismissal of what we might call the "evil" question.

A stand-out line from the operative who did work in Guatemala:

"Technicians, Pilots, Demolition Teams, Radio Technicians, professional Psychologists that organize rumor networks. These men provided the know-how of organizing a successful revolution."

Especially those "…psychologists that organize rumor networks." I wonder how far that "tech" has come along…and how it might be used even on conspiracy boards? I'm just sayin'

Excellent find and worth practicing one's attention span.

reply posted on 3-7-2011 @ 11:56 PM by Hessling

Finished watching and that truly was a fascinating video.

This stuff runs deep, no question.

Wish this thread could have gained a bit more traction. A worthy watch.

reply posted on 4-7-2011 @ 10:35 AM by ADVISOR

Right on, I've been posting on these very same subjects and other related ones here on ATS for years. Guess it is not as interesting to some, or as it has been u2ued to me, an intimidating subject for many.

There is a lot more to the content of the material discussed in the video. As long as many may think it is, most who don't know, will not understand it's full meaning. The content of the subject matter is very much just as relevant today as it was then.

A reoccurring theme with a majority of my threads and some posts throughout ATS...

Back to the topic, here are a few links which detail the 1954 era events which preceded our public involvement in Vietnam. This is today a pale contrast in comparison to the activities of recent and ongoing covert and clandestine services.

A bit of history;

GUATEMALA: New Constitution
Monday, Jan. 16, 1956

GUATEMALAN SPECIAL FORCES VETERANS ENLIST IN IRAQ, NARCO WARS.
Date: Thursday, October 25 2007

Secret Mercenary Armies of the CIA
1945

DIV. INT. G-2 MINFAR CENTRAL HEADQUARTERS APR 7 1961
Report on mercenary camps and bases in Guatemala, Nicaragua and Florida. In 1959, the “yanki” Department of State made the Dominican Republic its main ...
Bay of Pigs

Search it the list goes on etc...

This is one of my favored subjects and time periods in general, so I am always up for discussion and debate on these topics.

reply posted on 5-7-2011 @ 02:30 PM by Sphota

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I'm a little troubled by the comment that there are computers that can translate Russian to English at 30,000 words a minute. This was 1965. And I see how Google still butchers simple phrases from English to Spanish.

Either they've had better technology and withheld it, or we based on intelligence gathering on poorly done translations.

Also, the interview with Dulles is interesting because of his conviction and the whole up and down thumb-fist gesture while he talks. What is it about up and down motion and coercion??

reply posted on 5-7-2011 @ 04:36 PM by ADVISOR

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The military has much better tech, they have what we do today, 40 years ago. Some estimates for our current militaries advancements in technology are 60 years ahead of what we have now.

Think about it, back in WW2 the military had television, when every one else was still listening to radio programs. The German army had even developed color tv during the war, any the public never got color tv until almost Vietnam.