Originally posted by Novise
That's not New Age. New age does not teach that the feeling comes and goes. They teach that you reach "chakras" and new understandings.
Permanent things that you can brag to your spiritual buddies about. It sounds like his experience is pretty genuine for anyone who read the power of
Now and that's the feeling you get when you have that genuine experience for the first time. When I read the Power of Now it was not for spiritual
reasons. I read it actually because in the Big Astral Projection thread on ATS, someone suggested it. I was just reading it to help me with my lucid
dreaming efforts and Astral Projection attempts, but I felt the very same thing Jim Carrey did, for 2-3 days. And it does come and go. And it's not
new age. It's pretty much a timeless truth of what happens when you have lived a life, decades with a mind that NEVER stopped once since the day it
began to think, and you manage to truly quiet that mind for the first time. It's immense and powerful, like removing a chronic pain that has been
with you all your life, and the sigh of relief is quite something.
Yes, you got it, Novise. Although I can argue about how you define "New Age." I hate the term "New Age" myself because I associate it with really
wacked out ideas, wishful thinking and so much fraud from phoney "gurus" or supposed "spiritual" teachers. I could do an entire long rant on
Having said that, chakras (subtle or psychic energy vortices) are very real. And I don't know where you got the erroneous idea that once the
Kundalini rises to a particular chakra to activate it, that activation is permanent.
It's NOT permanent until the Kundalini rises to the highest level (Sahasra or Thousand Petal Lotus) and one becomes permanently ROOTED in that state.
So what I'm saying here, is that one can experience high levels of understanding, but lose it and devolve into lower states. One retains the memory
of the state and from there KNOWS that these states of consciousness are real. Then the journey becomes one of discovering how to reach that state
again and stay there.
There are methods of nurturing the Kundalini, but it's difficult, very difficult if one is also forced to live "in the world." The path is narrow
and severe. Few make it.
One who lives in permanent samadhi or is rooted in Turiya, is called a Jivanmukti, one who is liberated while still in a physical body.
One who reaches the highest form of samadhi (Nirvakalpa), completely merged with God, normally cannot retain a physical body for more than 40 days.
There are exceptions to this, when a particular soul has a special mission on Earth, a Jesus for example.
There are also exceptional souls called Avatars who are born without losing consciousness of That. This is the descent of the Divine into human form.
Such a one has no karma and cannot make karma.
Jesus (I believe really existed, was not just a mythic symbol) was a "theosized" man, not an Avatar. A theosized man has gone thru successive
incarnations to reach "perfection" -- complete merging with God.