Explosion at the nuclear plant in France ..

This incident is classified Level 2 on the INES scale:



source (in French)

reply to post by Dalke07


its the autobots they're after our energy-cubes/plutonium rods
more than meets the eye!

World graphic data for Caesium-137 end Japan have same readings from last 3 mounts .

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Here all info ..
www.bfs.de...

power plants suddenly all over the world exploding,

Power plant always have an always will occasionally have problems. The only reason this is actually news is because of Fukushima and because it's a nuclear plant. And any every problem, no matter how small, will unnecessarily be blown all out of proportion.

Really. This is beyond banning. This is to kill, maim, depopulate the more democratict free world, cause untold suffering and for the survivors children, further drops in their SAT scores, ie. the children's SAT scores dropped 12% from 1945 to 1963 in the US with all their nuclear atmospheric testing.

Correlation does not imply causation. Just because you can say two things happened during the same time period doesn't mean they were linked at all.

They killing us all time, slowly end softly without explosion or catastrophic events what happened in Japan etc ..

Prove it.

Some studies that have been done do not show this. Others show a small effect and the validity of these reports has been obliterated. The theoretical impact from a nuclear plant (excluding big disasters like fukushima) is extremely small.

This is proven time and time again when people try to use transformer fires (that could happen at any power plant) as evidence to the contrary.

Also a transformer fire could happen at any power station,

I posted here to people see danger from this nuclear plants, they are old end not so safe like governments say ..

You do realize transformer fires could happen at any power station? And that newer transformers are more likely to fail than old ones?

New video from Arnie Gundersen, Jul 1, 2011 .. ..

"New Analysis of Unit 3 Fuel Pool Video Reveals Top of Fuel Bundle"


www.fairewinds.com...



"Gundersen Discusses the Situation at the flooded Ft. Calhoun and Cooper Nuclear Power Plants", June 29, 2011.

www.fairewinds.com...

The risk is just too great, it is like gambling with your country.
The land and the people in a lot of ways ARE one.

I like the video of the Frenchman - he expresses himself very well and makes the news very human.

I think though that there might be nonhumans in charge. Not saying they are from outer space but they might as well be - if they don't care about kids wearing dossimeters to school and the death of the land, they aren't the same species as me.

reply to post by C0bzz


I don't need to prove it to you or persons like you ..

They are leaking worldwide end if you think they are safe I wish your home end your all family live in Japan ..

Smart mor... like you end same kind people make this very big problem to all people world wide ..

In one second all world can by destroyed because nuclear sh..

I think (feel) Japan is only warning, if we stay to by empty head end spirit we're all by wrecked ..

reply to post by camouflaged

power plants suddenly all over the world exploding, anyone else think its done intentionally to maybe have nuclear power banned for good?

YES YES YES!!!!!

Even the left wing is was on board the nuclear bandwagon. Both the UK Guardian and Change.org were PRO- thorium Nuclear. Hyperion is in the midst of going through the government hoops needed to get their mini-nuclear power modules approved.

SOMETHING HAD TO BE DONE! - Enter HARP and weather modification
The weather modification is real and used in the middle east.
consciouslifenews.com...
www.truthnexus.com...

Remember Kissinger's 1970 statement : ""Control oil and you control nations; control food and you control the people."

With self contained micro nuclear plants the size of a garden shed that can be shipped to a town and power 20,000 homes with a price tag around $25m [£16m] each. For a community with 10,000 households, that is a very affordable $2,500 per home.' I am sure the British Royal family (BP) Queen Beatrix (Royal Dutch Shell) and the Rockefellers (the "Daughters" of Standard Oil) are all having hissy fits.

A wee particle accelerator in the English countryside could be a harbinger of a safer, cleaner future of energy. Specifically, nuclear energy, but not the type that has wrought havoc in Japan and controversy throughout Europe and the U.S. It would be based on thorium, a radioactive element that is much more abundant, and much more safe, than traditional sources of nuclear power.

Some advocates believe small nuclear reactors powered by thorium could wean the world off coal and natural gas, and do it more safely than traditional nuclear. Thorium is not only abundant, but more efficient than uranium or coal — one ton of the silver metal can produce as much energy as 200 tons of uranium, or 3.5 million tons of coal,... www.popsci.com...

Hyperion Mini Nuclear Reactor Set to Transform Power Generation

A small portable nuclear reactor about the size of a phone booth could be the key to securing America's energy future. .... www.nextenergynews.com...

Ain't Conspircies great.

Nuclear energy is safe, so is fracking up your drinking water for natural gas, just ask any scientist that works for one of the money making, profit driven empires, ask any of the ministers taking kick backs, or the directors of such wonderful devices.There is nothing unsafe, they have implemented measures to make them safe for you. Even Homer Simpson could vouch for that.

re:Fukushima : Message d'un expatrié français ! Eng_Sub (Video censored)

what was censored in this video? I'd like to see the uncensored version if that is possible.

Also, The guy in that video makes a valid point when he says, "Look at Japan! The most technologically country in the world, most advanced economically. It is 50 years ahead of France and all countries in Europe here, on everything!

S0, why all a sudden they have these horrible nuclear explosions? Why are we having nuclear problems? Why is France having Nuclear explosions now?

Why all a sudden is there this onslaught of nuclear mishaps? Something isn't right about this? It is just too coincidental.

Originally posted by Pr0sp3r0

L'incendie a été maîtrisé en moins d'une heure par les pompiers.

Transl > The fire was controlled in less than an hour by firemen.


- Why just post the sensasionalist part ?

Ok, let me spell it out for you. When transformer go BOOM, regardless of whether it is near anything dangerous or not, it affects the site's ability to get electrical power to keep the reactors cool. That's BAD. If everything works like it is supposed to, then they should be able to find an alternate source of power. But with recent events, we see over and over how alternate sources of power are broken and not working like they should. Add to the fact that there was an explosion, and you have a man-made local earthquake, who knows what the explosion really affected, underground piping, etc., etc....

"We have identified 33 serious incidents and accidents at nuclear power stations since the first recorded one in 1952 at Chalk River in Ontario, Canada."
"The information is partially from the International Atomic Energy Authority - which, astonishingly, fails to keep a complete historical database - and partially from reports"

Nuclear power plant accidents: listed and ranked since 1952


"Benjamin K. Sovacool has reported that worldwide there have been 99 accidents at nuclear power plants from 1952 to 2009"

Nuclear and radiation accidents


Way more nuclear power does not make any sense ..
bjelkeman.wordpress.com...

Originally posted by mustangill


S0, why all a sudden they have these horrible nuclear explosions? Why are we having nuclear problems? Why is France having Nuclear explosions now?

We have had a big nuclear disaster.
So we are all paying closer attention to what is happening at nuclear reactor sites. That means we are seeing and talking about every tiny incident that happens at them (or might happen at them). But incidents have always happened, there is not more right now than usual.

France has had NO nuclear explosion! Not one!

Now, this incident seemed to be the topic of this thread, but it seems it wasn't- the OP means to discuss the larger issue of nuclear power in general?

I think most of the world HAS become more conscious of the risk. Countries in Europe have decided to put an end to using nuclear power, ones that had been considering building plants have decided against it.

To the original poster- I notice english is not your first language... what country are you from, if you don't mind me asking?

Even in France, discussion about the problem is going on. Everyone agrees we'd like to use some other source of energy. But there is a logistical problem in just stopping it all of a sudden! We'd have no electricity! Think about that..... besides your home, no lighting, no appliances, there is the problem of business stopping with all computers dead, no frozen or refridgerated foods..... but there'd be no cash registers anyway, so it doesn't matter.

I don't know where ou are, but in France, the radio is full of discussion on this problem, trying to decide on a feasible alternative, and how much time it would take to install the facilities and make the change.
They are way ahead of you there. It is just not going to happen over night. Sensationalism and exaggerrating things (so that people think there has been a nuclear explosion in France, for example ) is not going to hurry that up. Look into some solutions if you want to help change things.

A total of 17,155,535 people (≈6%) live within 19 miles of a nuclear plant.
A total of 111,592,997 people (≈36%) live within 50 miles of a nuclear plant.
East cost ..

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Can you imagine what happened if here hit big earthquake, tsunami, meteor hit, terrorism, sabotage, monster storm end weather is more end more catastrophic end extreme, etc ..


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Daily life in Fukushima, new video ..

Methods of sabotage are getting more effective and sophisticated.

Interesting.

reply to post by Fractured.Facade


What is it about potential nuclear sabotage that brings a smile to your face?

So are that kind of risk pays off for this nuclear energy ..??

I don't think so but other think different, read more for consequences of nuclear radiation end open your eyes stop by so blind or we all by w.w.f. - fcked ..

With this way of thinking we don't change anything we stay to by sheeps end no possibility to push governments to close nuclear plants like Germany will ..

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www.topix.com...

Maybe this forum debate is hoax ??

Peace ..

Originally posted by Mr Objectivity
reply to post by Fractured.Facade

 

What is it about potential nuclear sabotage that brings a smile to your face?

Amazing abilities you have there, can you tell me what my face is doing now??

There is nothing to smile about here, unless one is involved in the attempted sabotage at nuclear facilities around the world.

There have been random failures and inoperative redundant systems in nuclear facilities recently, too many to be coincidence.... Excluding natural disasters such as quakes and floods.

I was merely highlighting the obvious here.

If a group, government, terrorist organisation, covert agency etc was interested in creating an incident that could cause widespread damage and contamination... Nuclear facilities would have to be a good target for them.

It would have to be a very sophisticated plot, that would require testing modes of failure and sabotage at various facilities until ultimately a plan of attack is made and executed.

In the end, an act like this, if successful could potentially release 100s of tons of radioactive materials and toxins into an environment, preferably near a densely populated urban area, or nearest one, for maximum effect.

An attack like this, would make 9/11 seems like child's play in comparison.

But, hey... Maybe it's all coincidence... right?

reply to post by Dalke07

Can you imagine what happened if here hit big earthquake, tsunami, meteor hit, terrorism, sabotage, monster storm end weather is more end more catastrophic end extreme, etc ..

Of course I can... I can look out the window at a nuclear power plant as I am typing this.

ALL power/energy is dangerous. Whether it is Horse and Oxen, Coal, oil, gas, solar, or wind turbine.

Nuclear is just easier to scare the crap out of people with even though it has a MUCH MUCH better safety record than the others and more important it is much cheap per kilowatt hour.

Unfortunately we have a choice, go with nuclear or another source of CHEAP power or condemn millions of children to starvation. The elite have chosen to starve children. Analysis of 2008 food riots: www.abovetopsecret.com...


The Elite/PTB/Fabians really do not care if they kill off lots of people in their drive to "REMOULD [the world] NEARER TO THE HEART'S DESIRE", After all, they are the origin of the EUGENICS MOVEMENT

Why do TPTB want to scarce us out of using nuclear??? Because the easiest way to crash an economy is to starve it of energy. You can not bring in "Global Governance 2025" until you destroy the economies of the USA and Europe. "Global Governance 2025" is not some ATS conspiracy it is out there in the open:

UN REFORM - Restructuring for Global Governance

Global Governance 2025

...The United States’ National Intelligence Council (NIC) and the European Union’s Institute for Security Studies (EUISS) have joined forces to produce this assessment of the long-term prospects for global governance frameworks....Global Governance 2025 is the result of an inclusive process, enriched by wide-ranging consultations with government officials; as well as business, academic, NGO, and think tank leaders; and media representatives in Brazil, China, India, Japan, Russia, South Africa, and in the Gulf region (the UAE)....

The plans for the destruction of the US Economy has been in the works for years:

Start here with a quote from Obama's "Science Czar" John P. Holdren, (Director of the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy)

grendelreport.posterous.com...

'Holdren has co-authored works in the past that called for a campaign to “de-develop the United States” and said people need to eventually face up to a “world of zero net physical growth.” He also co-authored a passage that said: “The fetus, given the opportunity to develop properly before birth, and given the essential early socializing experiences and sufficient nourishing food during the crucial early years after birth, will ultimately develop into a human being. Where any of these essential elements is lacking, the resultant individual will be deficient in some respect.” '

.... In their 1973 book “Human Ecology: Problems and Solutions,” Holdren and co-authors Paul and Anne Ehrlich wrote:

“A massive campaign must be launched to restore a high-quality environment in North America and to de-develop the United States. De-development means bringing our economic system (especially patterns of consumption) into line with the realities of ecology and the global resource situation. Resources and energy must be diverted from frivolous and wasteful uses in overdeveloped countries to filling the genuine needs of underdeveloped countries."

“The need for de-development presents our economists with a major challenge,” they wrote. “They must design a stable, low-consumption economy in which there is a much more equitable distribution of wealth than the present one. Redistribution of wealth both within and among nations is absolutely essential, if a decent life is to be provided for every human being.”

You can continue tracing the idea all the way back to the 1800's to Cecil Rhodes (Rhodes Scholars) and the Fabian Society.

...This is the stained-glass window from the Beatrice Webb House in Surrey, England, former headquarters of the Fabian Society. It was designed by George Bernard Shaw and depicts Sidney Webb and Shaw striking the Earth with hammers to "REMOULD IT NEARER TO THE HEART'S DESIRE," a line from Omar Khayyam. Note the wolf in sheep's clothing in the Fabian crest above the globe. The window is now on display at the London School of Economics (LSE), which was founded by Sydney and Beatrice Webb....

...the window was officially unveiled by a ceremony attended by British Prime Minister Tony Blair, who is a member of the Fabian Society....

The Fabians originally were an elite group of intellectuals who formed a semi-secret society for the purpose of bringing socialism to the world. Whereas Communists wanted to establish socialism quickly through violence and revolution, the Fabians preferred to do it slowly through propaganda and legislation. The word socialism was not to be used. Instead, they would speak of benefits for the people such as welfare, medical care, higher wages, and better working conditions. In this way, they planned to accomplish their objective without bloodshed and even without serious opposition.... To emphasize the importance of gradualism, they adopted the turtle as the symbol of their movement....

Beneath the line Remould it nearer to the heart's desire, the mural depicts Shaw and Webb striking the earth with hammers.... www.freedom-force.org...

Another founding member of the Fabian Society was George Bernard Shaw. Here are a few quotes from the "Real George Bernard Shaw":

“Under Socialism, you would not be allowed to be poor. You would be forcibly fed, clothed, lodged, taught, and employed whether you liked it or not. If it were discovered that you had not character and industry enough to be worth all this trouble, you might possibly be executed in a kindly manner; but whilst you were permitted to live, you would have to live well.”

George Bernard Shaw: The Intelligent Woman’s Guide to Socialism and Capitalism, 1928, pg. 470)

KILLING THOSE “UNFIT TO LIVE”

“The moment we face it frankly we are driven to the conclusion that the community has a right to put a price on the right to live in it … If people are fit to live, let them live under decent human conditions. If they are not fit to live, kill them in a decent human way. Is it any wonder that some of us are driven to prescribe the lethal chamber as the solution for the hard cases which are at present made the excuse for dragging all the other cases down to their level, and the only solution that will create a sense of full social responsibility in modern populations?”

Source: George Bernard Shaw, Prefaces (London: Constable and Co., 1934), p. 296.

Given a choice between Shaw/Rockefeller's "Socialism" or Nuclear and Capitalism, I think I will opt for nuclear and capitalism. Unfortunately I think we ALL are going to find out just how nasty REAL Fabian Socialism is in the very near future.

reply to post by Dalke07

WTF is going on. 

Is all this exposure about nuclear power plants just because the spot light is on them or is this just
Massive coincidence.

Not that i believe in coincidence .