Originally posted by incrediblelousminds
reply to post by theHairInTheSoup
A strawman? That implies I'm attacking your position.
Originally posted by bonnieprince
reply to post by Pimander
Just like all people who disagree with the government line or any other mainstream line aren't disinfo agents/sheep. Sorry if I hyperbole'd, but if you look through any thread on this site, I am sure almost 90% of them will have the accusation of someone being a disinfo agent, or anyone not agreeing being a sheeple. For example, almost any birther thread.
Originally posted by ipsedixit
By patiently meeting these liars on the level of their lies with simple easy to understand truths, that undermined their position, I believe that I was possibly winning converts to the truth in a demographic that brainy truthers seldom address.
Originally posted by MajorKarma
reply to post by theHairInTheSoup
I have posted threads and comments on this exact subject but ultimately the problem will not be shoved until something along the lines of the French Revolution happens. Stalin, Mao and others throughout history had their solution and that is what terrifies those who would for example be behind Homeland Security, TSA etc. What they do is not to protect the American people, it is to protect themselves from the American People when everyone wakes up to what they have done, are doing and are planning on doing. Suzanna Gratia-Hupp said it very well
We carried you in our arms on Independence Day
And now you'd throw us all aside and put us all away
Oh, what dear daughter 'neath the sun could treat a father so?
To wait upon him hand and foot and always tell him "No"
Tears of rage, tears of grief
Why must I always be the thief?
Come to me now, you know we're so low And life is brief
It was all very painless When you went out to receive
All that false instruction Which we never could believe
And now the heart is filled with gold As if it was a purse
But, oh, what kind of love is this Which goes from bad to worse?
We pointed you the way to go And scratched your name in sand
Though you just thought it was nothing more Than a place for you to stand
I want you to know that while we watched You discovered no one would be true
And I myself was among The ones who thought It was just a childish thing to do
Four score and seven years ago our fathers brought forth on this continent, a new nation, conceived in Liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal.
Now we are engaged in a great civil war, testing whether that nation, or any nation so conceived and so dedicated, can long endure. We are met on a great battle-field of that war. We have come to dedicate a portion of that field, as a final resting place for those who here gave their lives that that nation might live. It is altogether fitting and proper that we should do this.
But, in a larger sense, we can not dedicate -- we can not consecrate -- we can not hallow -- this ground. The brave men, living and dead, who struggled here, have consecrated it, far above our poor power to add or detract. The world will little note, nor long remember what we say here, but it can never forget what they did here. It is for us the living, rather, to be dedicated here to the unfinished work which they who fought here have thus far so nobly advanced. It is rather for us to be here dedicated to the great task remaining before us -- that from these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they gave the last full measure of devotion -- that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain -- that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom -- and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth.
... If there are some guys here i think they are in very small number 3 or 4 (part time job) ..and
specified on some topics and boards which have some true and "dangerous" info but every sharp individual will find a path to truth no matter of
derailng and disinfo. IMO they have one common characteristic: they lack of common human sense... almost like bots . Most here are, as I mentioned in earlier replies, harmless posters looking for some nice and wild theories just to kill some time of daily boredom. But there are some really dangerous individuals, exchanging encoded info via apparently harmless posts about aliens, the usual gov conspiracy theories etc. The perpetrators are anything from mentally unstable youngsters/hackers like Ryan Cleary (suffers from asbergers syndrome) to muslim fundamentalists, all using various forums as info change instead of the usual email/cell exchange. This site is too valuable to be closed. Its vast membership serves a purpose to both NSA and DHS Clandestine Service as one of many great intel gathering sites on the world wide web.
Originally posted by Echtelion
Artificial Intelligence programs have gone somewhat to the closet over the last few years, as the best ones are mostly academic projects. But they have an history of beings used into fake chats in the past, and perhaps these attempts could have been experiments for better AIs.
So, these fake online personas could very well be AI! Programmed accordingly with disinfo and psyops tactics... actually they can be mostly efficient for staying active online 24-hours a day, where even the biggest no-lifer would fail!
Originally posted by xavi1000
Afcourse there is many disinfo cointelpro agents on net. But full payed agents on ATS ?
To build this capability we will create a set of personas on twitter, blogs, forums, buzz, and myspace
Originally posted by incrediblelousminds
reply to post by theHairInTheSoup
"stop calling everyone that disagree with you a disinformation agent"
You have to admit that many people who are just plain wrong often like to accuse other's of being a 'disinfo agent' when they lack the facts to argue a reasonable case.
OR does pointing that out expose me as disinfo?
Originally posted by Quetzalcoatl12
Wow, this thread only has 3 pages?!? How unfortunate. This thread is outstanding.
