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Originally posted by justwokeup
The first part of your post is erroneous, germany was never in a position to take on the whole world and win. The fact they knew they couldn't is why they signed a non aggression pact with the russians, despite despising them...
Yes we are different, that doesn't mean we cannot work together for a greater purpose, we have the potential to, why waste it?! In my neighborhood people are actually united, everyone helps each other and has a strong sense of collaboration in benefit of the community.
Bit low perhaps in faith in human nature? I have noticed over the years in England, which is a very diverse country now, it has moved from a suspicious place to a pretty well integrated land to live in., if they think its a good cause, whoever they are they will often give and give again or help out. I have helped in a charity on and off and people who have nothing to do with the charity will come and help etc. Also even if not coming they mostly cheer you on, wish you well and often ask how it went. I believe we were geared mentally to help because when you do, you get an inner warm glow.
Originally posted by CosmosKid
How can you say the Germans "almost won" WWII when they knew almost from the beginning that they could never actually achieve a military victory? Sure, they came up with SOME technical innovations, but how did that work out for them in the end
Originally posted by ZeroKnowledge
reply to post by Lynda101
Again, there is a huge difference between helping individual Joe and helping an un-existing "common cause" beast.
Charity exists for purpose of charity. Thanks God, there are multitude of individuals willing to help other individuals. You will not find charity organization running space exploration projects though. Which is what our civilization needs,for example.
Oh, and as for low faith in Human nature - i think that being realistic is not a fault. Take any history book and among magnificent buildings,noble deeds,mountains of corpses and dirty political games you will see what it is all about and what bastards waved "common cause" flags. Pink or black glasses are equally bad. We are what we are. And i will repeat - we are not ants.
edit on 3-7-2011 by ZeroKnowledge because: (no reason given)
I disagree. As I mentioned the Germans are a good example of working together for the greater good. Ideas such as it's impossible, wrong, and unnatural are what's preventing us! I think they are all excuses..
We will have to beg to differ though because your outlook on life seems far more pessimistic concerning the human spirit than mine.
What greater good Germans did working together in 1930s-early 1940s?Starting World War 2 that ended with scores of dead and torn Germany?
This is becoming pointless. You think you are right even though history numerously proved those approaches to be false and more important deadly and devastating. And yet you are willing to wave it all away. Well, listen to my rare doom and gloom prophecy - your Utopia will end as the rest. You cannot design a house without acknowledging what creatures will live inside. But you want to go ahead - well ,try to build another anthill for people. I really pity all the blood that will be spilled ,again in vain.