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The HOLY GRAIL and the "PURGE"

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posted on Jul, 3 2011 @ 10:49 PM
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april,

you aren't raining on the parade, in fact, i dunno why you would think heaven and paradise for women would be about forcibly being raped in a pouch for eternity. i'm menopausal and not even remotely interested in sex, and in fact, jesus even says that the teaching of marrying or giving in marriage in heaven, is incorrect. (it was a response to the pharisees and saducees who were trying to trick him into saying something against their mosaic laws, as regards who's wife a woman would be in heaven, if she had been married to every man in the same family, who had died, one after the other). he said they were incorrect in their belief that women would be married at all because the act of marriage is a flesh thing, whereas we are like the angels in heaven. why would he say that if none of it is true? what would be the point of even adding it to the scripture if the whole thing is a fabrication with only some truth in it, and why put only some truth in it, if the idea is to not tell us the truth at all?




posted on Jul, 3 2011 @ 10:57 PM
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Only women, and just a select of those, get into heaven? Why would such a thing be?

And Christians aren't saved by faith alone but must also continue in good works which complement faith.

You do realize that the Da Vinci code is fiction right, though I'm sure you're only using it to express some other point. And just because ancient paganism believed such an idea doesn't mean that it is true, dear.

Christianity declares one must repent for one's evil deeds (in truth and heart) to be forgiven their sins and that we strive to practice righteous acts.

Why accept such a teaching that only a select few of women will be saved? Because it applies to you? That is just as horrible as Christians believing in God only for the fact that they don't want to suffer forever in Hell.

Also, one quote from the Book of Revelation doesn't cement your position as fact, especially in the most spiritual book of the entire Bible. Also, the elite manipulate us with the Bible and the story of Jesus instead? In an openly pagan society they decided to obey a small monotheistic religion instead of sticking with their original pagan views that the populace already agreed as truth?

I'm sorry, I don't fully understand your position still and don't want to make any more rash claims, please tell me more so that I may more ably discuss with you. You confuse me, dear, and I'd like to continue this discussion.

May God bless you into truth



posted on Jul, 3 2011 @ 10:57 PM
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note that this thread is in RELIGION FAITH AND THEOLOGY on ATS, yet she doesn't want religious people talking to her about it. : /



posted on Jul, 3 2011 @ 11:08 PM
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There is no real heaven as such ... except for the elite who get to drink of the elixir.

The women who get taken in SERVE ...

Revelation 22:3 And there shall be no more curse: but the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it; and his servants shall serve him:

But for those who can make peace with it and accept their role there is peace and love.

As for the no wife's in heaven ... of course not because men don't get to go to heaven, only woman do and they become the bride of Christ so to speak.

The woman are reborn to a womb no less (pouch) and are like little children in a new world.

Believe it or not ... I am sure most of you will choose not to because like Jesus said..

1 Corinthians 3:2 I have fed you with milk, and not with meat: for hitherto ye were not able to bear it, neither yet now are ye able.

If you were aware of the real truth you would not have allowed your lands to be swimming in Multiculturalism, you would not have allowed yourselves to be vulnerable, the HARVEST could not come about ... as it is in your ignorance you have a allowed the enemy into the city gates ... not long NOW and down you will all go and the elite will be rejoicing and laughing ...



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posted on Jul, 3 2011 @ 11:16 PM
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what about all the passages that refer to angels in service of god, who are male, who are not in a pouch? ever read the scripture about michael the archangel having to fight "the prince of persia" (who was apparently not a prince in the way we think of princes today, but a spiritual force who was blocking michael from reaching..i think it was daniel)?

ya know what your theory reminds me of? the teaching that white women are all whores, forwarded in some racist black communities. they are looking for an excuse to treat white people in general like crap and white women like sex objects....before they kill them, that is. i mean these are seriously racist people.
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posted on Jul, 3 2011 @ 11:23 PM
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"We're devils and black sheep and really bad eggs
Drink up me hearties Yo Ho!!!"


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Cypher: The Matrix? Yeah.
Neo: Do you always look at it encoded?
Cypher: Well you have to. The image translators work for the construct program. But there's way too much information to decode the Matrix. You get used to it. I, I don't even see the code. All I see is blonde, brunette, redhead. Hey, you eh, want a drink?



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clip ends with ...

"Bloody Mary's all Round …."




posted on Jul, 3 2011 @ 11:29 PM
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Originally posted by undo
reply to post by AprilSky
 


ya know what your theory reminds me of? the teaching that white women are all whores, forwarded in some racist black communities. they are looking for an excuse to treat white people in general like crap and white women like sex objects....before they kill them, that is. i mean these are seriously racist people.
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Do you ever wonder why white people are taught they are the scum of the Earth?

Why most movies and TV programmes make white women out to be WHORES?

Why only white lands are multicultural and all other races are taught to be proud of their people ... but whites are not allowed to be PROUD .. for us it is a dirty crime!

You will find out soon ... I have been trying to warn people ... no one listens and they won't listen now.

It will be disregarded But it is all too late now anyway ... the End is Nigh ...



posted on Jul, 3 2011 @ 11:39 PM
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you do know that bloody mary was the name of a british catholic queen who killed so many protestants, that she earned the title bloody mary, because her reign was so brutal and bloody? i realize that's not what capt. jack is referring to, but that's the original use of the phrase "Bloody Mary." that the idea might relate back to some pagan tradition of drinking menstrual blood chemicals, is beside the point, since capt. jack can believe whatever he wants, doesn't mean it has anything to do with heaven or eternal life in reality. also, are you suggesting that the woman also has to be menustrating or she has missed the heavenly boat?

i traced the ankh symbol back to this


BAT (Bata)


Her worship certainly dates to the early period of ancient Egyptian history as she is mentioned in the Pyramid Texts as "Bat of two faces; the one who is saved who has saved myself from all evil things". Her dual faces may represent her ability to see both the past and future, but it is also possible that the two faces represent the two banks of the Nile or both Upper and Lower Egypt. She is rarely depicted in ancient Egyptian art (she occasionally appears as a celestial cow surrounded by stars), however, her human face with bovine features often adorned jewellery and amulets. A cow goddess who is thought to be Bat appears on a pectoral from the twelfth dynasty flanked by Horus and Set (representing upper and lower Egypt) implying that she was a force which unified the two lands.

It is possible that it is Bat rather than Hathor who is depicted on the Narmer Palette and Gerzeh Palette (also known as the "cow palette" or the "Hathor Palette") as the name of the goddess depicted is not confirmed on either artifact. It is possible that Hathor and Bat were once one and the same, and that differences emerged because the area was divided into two different Nomes. Her appearance with Hathor and Menkaure would appear to support this. Hathor was worshipped in the sixth nome while Bat was worshiped in the seventh Nome. Alternatively, Bat was originally an entirely separate deity who merely shared many characteristics with her more illustrious neighbour. Unfortunately for Bat, her similarity to Hathor was so close that she was almost entirely assimilated into her by the New Kingdom.


from here: www.ancientegyptonline.co.uk...

and along the way you see the maqet, which is the ladder of heaven, and the shen and the sistrum.
these, i believe, all relate back to the gate of the gods/the gate of paradise/the gate of the stars

now how does a ladder of heaven become a woman's opening? what do you make of the book of gates? the book of what is in the amduat? all books about women's holes? it's mind boggling that you would think that.

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posted on Jul, 3 2011 @ 11:43 PM
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yeah i have been wondering that and i'm pretty sure it's because socialism can't be forced on a capitalistic society other than thru either out right war, or by convincing those who have been historically poor that their problems will be solved if they just get rid of those other people over yonder. i don't think it has anything to do with bloody mary, more like socialists preparing to take over the planet



posted on Jul, 3 2011 @ 11:47 PM
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Again, it's a peeve of mine but 1 Corinthians was written by Paul and doesn't contain the sayings of Jesus Christ.

His servants will serve Him talks about those who accepted Jesus as Christ will be with Him forever and serve God.

White people aren't glorified as much in the media because we have always achieved, we exported culture and religion and made ourselves known unto the world through violence and diplomacy. It is very obvious the impact the white culture has played considering almost all of the Western Hemisphere revolves around European society. We truly have an easier ride than the other cultures and races in the world.

I have trouble accepting your ideology specifically excludes almost all people that have ever existed for the reason that one hasn't drunken of an elixir or not known a relatively new idea. I find myself acting like an atheist towards a Christian.
Somewhat, for I see Christianity including the salvation of all.

I might be able to find a glimpse of truth in this if I did not think that such a salvation that applies to only a few includes you and that is why I feel you have accepted it.

Movies are just movies, they may contain some symbolic material but is not enough to develop such an outlandish theory.

May God lead you into the truth



posted on Jul, 4 2011 @ 05:13 AM
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Lucifer = "light-bearer"

from heylel

1) shining one, morning star, Lucifer

a) of the king of Babylon and Satan (fig.)

2) (TWOT) 'Helel' describing the king of Babylon

from halal

1) to shine

a) (Qal) to shine (fig. of God's favour)

b) (Hiphil) to flash forth light

2) to praise, boast, be boastful

a) (Qal)

1) to be boastful

2) boastful ones, boasters (participle)

b) (Piel)

1) to praise

2) to boast, make a boast

c) (Pual)

1) to be praised, be made praiseworthy, be commended, be worthy of praise

d) (Hithpael) to boast, glory, make one's boast

e) (Poel) to make a fool of, make into a fool

f) (Hithpoel) to act madly, act like a madman
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source
www.blueletterbible.org...

the king of babylon ?
well now what's the king of babylon have to do with the morning star, if as you say, morning stars are females? it's even a masculine noun


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posted on Jul, 4 2011 @ 01:13 PM
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You will find out soon ... I have been trying to warn people ... no one listens and they won't listen now.

It will be disregarded But it is all too late now anyway ... the End is Nigh ...


Can you sum up your message? How close is the end? What will happen? And what can we do to prepare?

Should people make sure their "spiritual suitcase" is in order?



posted on Jul, 4 2011 @ 03:39 PM
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Lucifer = Morning Star = Jesus

Jesus is Lucifer ie the father of the line, the females of his line keeping his original seed type are now the Morning Stars.

It is they that sing with the sons of God.

Job 38:7 When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?

After Jesus died he became the First-fruits ie those that will be harvested.

1 Corinthians 15:20 But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept.

1 Corinthians 15:23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.

Revelation 14:4 These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb.

I covered all of this in the opening posts of this thread.
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posted on Jul, 4 2011 @ 03:51 PM
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Unfortunately there is no talking to die hard Christians, you want everything to be fair, it isn't

I said that at the beginning of the thread, there is nothing FAIR about the Grail ... nothing.

Seeing as you REFUSE to get it and WAKE UP ponder this ... why are these verses in the bible if your religion is about being saved as a spirit, by a spirit God.


John 4:14 But whosoever drinketh of the water that I shall give him shall never thirst; but the water that I shall give him shall be in him a well of water springing up into everlasting life.

John 7:38 He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water.


Song of Solomon 4:12 A garden inclosed is my sister, my spouse; a spring shut up, a fountain sealed.

Song of Solomon 7:2 Thy navel is like a round goblet, which wanteth not liquor: thy belly is like an heap of wheat (bread) set about with lilies. relates to ...

Revelation 2:17 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the hidden manna (bread), and will give him a white stone, and in the stone a new name written, which no man knoweth saving he that receiveth it.

Revelation 12:14 And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle (means God), that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.

Song of Solomon 5:4 My beloved put in his hand by the hole of the door, and my bowels were moved for him.


Rather strange those verses are in the bible if it's all about some spirit God saving our spirits?


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posted on Jul, 4 2011 @ 04:20 PM
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Most people will interpret different parts of the Bible differently, especially Revelations, (which you rely heavily on). Revelations itself is a vision.

Have you been thinking for yourself about this stuff? Or are you relying on what someone else is telling you? I’ll bet the later.

That being said, why after determining that you have been lied to by one story, do you so easily believe another? Maybe the truth lies somewhere in between, or in another story all together but you’ll never know, because you never thought for yourself, you just let yourself be led by someone else. I hope this is not the case.

Anyway, you never explained the warning or answered my questions.

Can you sum up your message? How close is the end? What will happen? And what can we do to prepare?

If the end times are near, I'm glad I have a good relationship with God.

Oh btw I would love to hear more about your dreams. Do you keep a journal?



posted on Jul, 4 2011 @ 04:42 PM
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Originally posted by IndieA
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You will find out soon ... I have been trying to warn people ... no one listens and they won't listen now.

It will be disregarded But it is all too late now anyway ... the End is Nigh ...


Can you sum up your message? How close is the end? What will happen? And what can we do to prepare?

Should people make sure their "spiritual suitcase" is in order?


Well I do think it is too late to stop it now, the process seems almost complete and certainly I can see the net closing. Given that it is almost inevitable that the ELITE will achieve their goal and finalize the HARVEST, what do I recommend?

First off if you are a "First-fruit" you were designed for this role and it will come naturally to you, so if they collect you up ... relax ... it's not the end of the world ... you will adjust.

You have to understand that your brain changes ... I live a very weird life because half the time I am in that world and the other half this and that is what is causes the stress for me because it's difficult ... I feel a need to warn people ... although I also feel that, that is totally futile.

Maybe I should explain what it is to be a "First-fruit", I mean if you get purged, what is there to explain? We all understand being wiped out, so it really only leaves explaining what is the role of the "First-fruit?"

I will put this in blunt and simple terms ...

You are owned, you will belong to your dragon and master, you will do as your told, you will have no choice in the matter. It is highly unlikely you will ever be beaten or yelled at, their methods of getting you to do as desired come in the form of drugs those provided by their own bodies which drug yours and chemical drugs which they have plenty of ... actually these are some supremo drugs. It's unlikely you will give a stuff what the hell they are doing to you. I mean that in all seriousness ... if your mind can over power these drugs, you're something special. Even if your mind does want to protest, your body will obey the drugs and let you down anyway .. so my advise ... what the hell ... relax enjoy.

They won't hurt you, it goes against the whole process to hurt you or be cruel ... they want you to love them and give in and they will do everything to encourage you to do just that.

So what's it like?

Well actually it is very easy to be seduced into their world, you will mostly feel quite sleepy and very relaxed. Because your role is to make breast milk and the elixir and lots of it ... you are almost always wanting to feed, food will be constantly offered and although you will never get to eat normal food again ... that droopy tit will become like a dear friend. I can't tell you what it tastes like but human breast milk tastes like caramel and is pretty good so probably it tastes pretty good as well.

This world is still set up to worship these women, you see this with statues of the Virgin Mary and the Statue of Liberty etc so I wouldn't worry that humanity is going to look down their noses at you, it's far more likely you will be idolized.

As for getting your soul in order? No need ... this is not Christianity where you will be rejected because you don't believe in Jesus. You have kept Gods "WORD" which means sperm, as in you have stayed true to type, that is all that is required. No pledges of alliance etc are required and you can tell them you hate them and wish them to rot in hell and they will still not reject you, they will simply try and convince you they aren't as bad as all of that and they want to love you.

I could go into a hell of a lot more detail but I think it would be inappropriate and also you don't understand how you change ... for a start you become a lot more sexual ... the whole thing will come naturally to you so no need to panic. If I was given the choice now and had the right to reject or accept I would accept because I am used to it and grown to be happy with it, as most would I imagine?



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posted on Jul, 4 2011 @ 04:42 PM
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the white stone is a hebrew law tradition. in the ancient courts of justice the accused were condemned by black pebbles and the acquitted by white



posted on Jul, 4 2011 @ 04:54 PM
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Originally posted by IndieA
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Most people will interpret different parts of the Bible differently, especially Revelations, (which you rely heavily on). Revelations itself is a vision.

Have you been thinking for yourself about this stuff? Or are you relying on what someone else is telling you? I’ll bet the later.

That being said, why after determining that you have been lied to by one story, do you so easily believe another? Maybe the truth lies somewhere in between, or in another story all together but you’ll never know, because you never thought for yourself, you just let yourself be led by someone else. I hope this is not the case.


Oh btw I would love to hear more about your dreams. Do you keep a journal?


Yes, I doubt I would have actually understood this, simply by reading the bible so no I didn't get it from the bible. I was actually a hater of the bible and refused to read it until this started to happen to me and then I went looking in the bible and noticed it.

As for the supposed lying, I have asked this question of "Daddy" and he said he discloses what he thinks I can cope with at the time. So the message has been slowly revealed, not just dumped on me. I can't dump it on you either, I have only scratched the surface because you would not understand so I have simplified it to a huge extent.

As for a journal of dreams, I did in the beginning ... I wrote a book actually and it sits in my wardrobe but it is too sexual to be published ... I imagine. Really that stuff is private and doesn't really belong on a bookstore self.

I was thinking about sharing some of last nights dream with you but for the moment I have forgotten it, I am sick at the moment, if I recall the main points I will post it later.



posted on Jul, 4 2011 @ 05:07 PM
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Originally posted by undo
note that this thread is in RELIGION FAITH AND THEOLOGY on ATS, yet she doesn't want religious people talking to her about it. : /


I did not post it in this section and if I could get it moved I would.

But these things are not up to me, I consider it buried here.
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posted on Jul, 4 2011 @ 05:42 PM
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John 4:14 But whosoever drinketh of the water that I shall give him shall never thirst; but the water that I shall give him shall be in him a well of water springing up into everlasting life.

Jesus was talking about the living water, the truth that springs up in man when one adheres to God and follows His commandments.

John 7:38 He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water.

This verse also abides by what I have said about the previous one.

The Song of Solomon is erotic poetry that can be interpreted as messianic prophecy, it really is quite beautiful. This fountain also can be interpreted as the individual having a fountain of truth residing within oneself but not allowing it to spring forth, thus enters Christ who opens it.

Revelation 2:17 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the hidden manna, and will give him a white stone, and in the stone a new name written, which no man knoweth saving he that receiveth it.

I suppose what Undo is true, I wouldn't know but the manna is angel's food, thus the people will be heaven with God and Christ.

Revelation 12:14 And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.

Again, Revelation is a spiritual book and shouldn't necessarily be interpreted literally.

Song of Solomon 5:4 My beloved put in his hand by the hole of the door, and my bowels were moved for him.

Yes, the Song of Solomon can be sexual; this also relating the need for Christ from the Church.

I think your dreams are influencing you too much and you're confusing them for reality.

May God lead you into truth




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