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The HOLY GRAIL and the "PURGE"

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posted on Jul, 8 2011 @ 07:53 AM
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Maybe it's because you offer no evidence to back up your claims, simply conjecture and speculation and on top of that you claim you're in contact with evil reptilian beings which is the basis of your entire argument. Do you honestly think Christians would take the word of evil over good. You really are deluded. You sound like a salesman for Satan. If he even exists, one thing I do know, Satan is going to get his arse kicked.
Humanity is not as helpless as you make us out to be. A message for your Reptilian overlords. "Bring it!"

You obviously haven't seen the last Harry Potter movie. The good guys win and will always win.

edit on 8-7-2011 by kindred because: (no reason given)




posted on Jul, 8 2011 @ 12:09 PM
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To each their own. But don't make rash assumptions about people.

Those who see something evil in others and accuse it instead of trying to mend it do not help, work for love that love may come.
This was a message of Jesus Christ. You would do well to listen to it based upon your previous statements.
Defeat the hatred with love for hatred only multiplies hatred.

I figured I couldn't convert you but I was hoping to at least share my side of the story and defend my point of view while you could yours. I had never even claimed to be trying to make you believe what I say but at least understand why I think differently as you have steered away from the norm as well.

I don't like to see the Bible abused and misconstrued in an attempt to validate a belief system that is against what it dictates; at least how I fathom it.

And honey, not every body is alike, nor Christians alike in manner and thought; if someone differs from your theological views do not mock them or berate them but try to understand where they are coming from. I realize I had not always been the most compassionate and I apologize if I had ever offended you.

Again, though, may God bless you and lead you into truth



posted on Jul, 8 2011 @ 05:10 PM
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Originally posted by kindred
reply to post by AprilSky
 


You obviously haven't seen the last Harry Potter movie. The good guys win and will always win.


"Oh man" there you go showing how completely asleep and deluded you are.

Why do you suppose the good guys always win at the Movies?

Because they are brainwashing you into a deluded sense of security ... "oh never mind, good always wins "

The enemy are not longer even AT the gates, they are INSIDE the gates and in about 5 seconds time the whole Western world will fall and you will see a sweeping change like never before.

More people have been killed in the name of the one true God or Jesus since well forever probably, there is nothing wonderful about the fabricated Jesus, he was a tool of the elite, one they are almost finished with.



posted on Jul, 8 2011 @ 05:13 PM
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I tried to be polite to you but really you're just a TROLL who continues to SPAM my thread endlessly.

Then you fall back on the "Oh don't judge me" line.

I'm tired of it.


edit on 8-7-2011 by AprilSky because: missed word



posted on Jul, 9 2011 @ 06:07 PM
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I couldn't be more awake. Your whole attitude is that we are basically screwed and so you started a thread to inform us all of our impending doom. What's the point?

I'm not religious. I'm spiritual and one thing I do know is that we can only save ourselves. You on the other hand have already given up. You may be a quitter, but I'm not.

If I was you, I would spend less time warning others, but instead spend more time empowering yourself and saving yourself from the bed you now lye in.
You worry about your soul and I'll worry about mine.


Peace!

Negativity = Negativity
Positivity = Positivity

Don't you get it? Evil wants you to remain in a state of hatred, fear & negativity. Rise above it and empower yourself and evil can't harm or touch you.

All this end of world bull### helps no one, but evil.
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posted on Jul, 10 2011 @ 02:10 PM
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Don't think I covered this here so I will finish with this ...

The "WORD" of God actually means the sperm of God. People today do not understand what things meant years ago and so they don't see the double meaning in things and the real meanings fly over their heads.

WORD -


WORD - In Greek "word" the "Logos." refers to the life giving semen coming from the top of the erect Sacred Mountain (phallus).

sacredsemen.com...


Here is a passage from a book on Greek philosophy.


919 - The Logos is said to contain all our nr (the creative fire, contains all the "seminal reasons") and God or the fire, as the "seminal reason" which when "the whole substance" is transformed though air into water, remains behind "as such" ie as fire, which is cosmic sperma - in the moisture). Page 65

books.google.co.nz... ei=8I7sSqW3D4bQsQOlw-DeCA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=6&ved=0CB8Q6AEwBTgK#v=onepage&q&f=false


There are many more references on Google which confirm that the WORD of God actually refers to his seed ie sperm which also means something sown in Greek, the general feel is that it is talking about the line or seed of God, the BLOOD LINE of Christ.

John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

John 1:2 The same was in the beginning with God.

It's pretty obvious really.

Also "Word" in Matthew ... Jesus said only his disciples were to know what the parables mean and for those without it was not to know so if you are not a disciple you don't know what they mean, because that is a secret being kept from you?

Matthew 13:10 And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables?

Matthew 13:11 He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.

He also goes about people hereith not the word ... hmm because the WORD is not a word which is spoken ... that's why.

edit on 10-7-2011 by AprilSky because: spelling



posted on Jul, 10 2011 @ 02:27 PM
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www.pbs.org...

Logos does not mean semen. It means thought, reason, or principle.

John 1:1-5
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2 The same was in the beginning with God.
3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.

The Word is not depicted as some cosmic sperm but the foundation and building-block of all creation. While it could be concluded to be some metaphysical sperm (which I hate to say) it is not physical sperm. This is why Jesus Christ is called the only begotten Son of God and also God the Son. He is from everlasting and was used by the Father to initiate and project Creation. Only in God is truth but in man there is fallibility and ignorance so that man cannot fully contemplate God. This is why polytheism occurred, trying to understand creation from the aspect of humanity's limited scope of understanding.

Matthew 13:16-23
16 But blessed are your eyes, for they see: and your ears, for they hear.
17 For verily I say unto you, That many prophets and righteous men have desired to see those things which ye see, and have not seen them; and to hear those things which ye hear, and have not heard them.
18 Hear ye therefore the parable of the sower.
19 When any one heareth the word of the kingdom, and understandeth it not, then cometh the wicked one, and catcheth away that which was sown in his heart. This is he which received seed by the way side.
20 But he that received the seed into stony places, the same is he that heareth the word, and anon with joy receiveth it;
21 Yet hath he not root in himself, but dureth for a while: for when tribulation or persecution ariseth because of the word, by and by he is offended.
22 He also that received seed among the thorns is he that heareth the word; and the care of this world, and the deceitfulness of riches, choke the word, and he becometh unfruitful.
23 But he that received seed into the good ground is he that heareth the word, and understandeth it; which also beareth fruit, and bringeth forth, some an hundredfold, some sixty, some thirty.

The mystery that the others could not hear or see or understand Jesus told His disciples here. Quit trying to look for what's not there.
Jesus talks both about what man can't see or hear, for the spiritual lies not in physical discernment but in spiritual discernment.

May God conquer the hearts of men



posted on Jul, 10 2011 @ 02:40 PM
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It seems you are my stalker, the endless troll

Whatever.

Listen here is reason see if you can catch it?

Those who supposedly followed Jesus all around were his disciples right? Like you ...

Probably very dedicated and yet Jesus said no they were not to know what the PARABLES meant and he has spoken to YOU also in parables, has he not ... so he has NOT told you the true meanings or there would be no parables!

You see ... get it?

Can you not for one second get that the bible is a fable written by men with an agenda?

Jesus never existed .. if you read the beginning of this thread rather than rudely joining it you would see I pointed all of this out.

edit on 10-7-2011 by AprilSky because: added word



posted on Jul, 10 2011 @ 02:47 PM
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I only "troll" because I don't agree with what you are saying and would like to, to some degree, defend the Christian faith, plus no one else is doing it.

Jesus did tell His disciples what the parables He spoke to the masses meant. There are parables for those who do not want to fully know truth but only a hint of truth. People like to know truth but don't want to actively pursue and that is why they won't know the truth. How many Christians actually read the Bible? Too few. And that is why many do not know what Jesus, or the Bible has a whole, is talking about. I cannot say I completely understand everything written but I do know that I know a good deal; for it is impossible to fully understand God.

And I did read your entire thread.
I'm not that rude that I'd just jump into an argument without knowing what it began with.

May God conquer the hearts of men



posted on Jul, 10 2011 @ 03:09 PM
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Originally posted by JeshurunAndronicus
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Jesus did tell His disciples what the parables He spoke to the masses meant. There are parables for those who do not want to fully know truth but only a hint of truth.


He has spoken to YOU in parables which means he considers YOU no better than the those who followed him around.

If he didn't, there would be no Parables!!!

He would tell you balls out what is he means but he doesn't, does he!

NO and because the PARABLES are there at all, is proof that there is a mystery hidden within.



posted on Jul, 10 2011 @ 03:17 PM
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The parables are there because the evangelists who wrote the Gospels were recounting what they remembered of Jesus and His ministry. These parables were told to the public and the answers were given to the disciples in secret.

Matthew 10:27
27 What I tell you in darkness, that speak ye in light: and what ye hear in the ear, that preach ye upon the housetops.

They did exactly that by writing down what Jesus told them so anyone who read could know.
He does tell you, if you inquire to know.

Matthew 7:7-8
7 Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you:
8 For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened.

May God conquer the hearts of all men



posted on Jul, 10 2011 @ 03:29 PM
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Wow.

Bravo.

I will be reading this for the next week.

Thank you very, very much for taking the time to portray all of this - something I am very interested in.

Wonderful job.



posted on Jul, 10 2011 @ 04:32 PM
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Thank you.

Here is some videos which I think I forgot to include in this thread. (sub text probably best seen on U tube.)








posted on Jul, 10 2011 @ 04:46 PM
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Originally posted by AprilSky
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It seems you are my stalker, the endless troll

Whatever.

Listen here is reason see if you can catch it?

Those who supposedly followed Jesus all around were his disciples right? Like you ...

Probably very dedicated and yet Jesus said no they were not to know what the PARABLES meant and he has spoken to YOU also in parables, has he not ... so he has NOT told you the true meanings or there would be no parables!

You see ... get it?

Can you not for one second get that the bible is a fable written by men with an agenda?

Jesus never existed .. if you read the beginning of this thread rather than rudely joining it you would see I pointed all of this out.

edit on 10-7-2011 by AprilSky because: added word


I'm not going to quote the Bible reference because I don't know it, it'd take me ages to find, and surely someone here does know it off-by-heart, but Jesus goes further than that and explains to Matthew, was one I think, Peter may have been another, but when they ask why he speaks to the people in parabels he explains that it is alright for them (those particular disciples), for they had 'seen'. The parables are retellings of Aesops Fables in some cases, others were probably well known moral or fairy tales with implied meanings popular at the time. I don't claim to know what they had 'seen', but Jesus seems to have used it to differentiate between the disciples themselves, so it obviously holds some significance to understanding the work of Jesus outside of the Biblical edition.



posted on Jul, 10 2011 @ 08:14 PM
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I will just add a few extra bits and pieces to this thread so the info can be found in one place. ...

I think this is one of the most amazing images I have ever found

It pretty much shows you what I am trying to tell you goes on.



Here is another image which shows you the process of the exchange of foods between the god and the woman you see the human in the belly ...



More images notice how this God is making exchanges with a smaller being. You see the open flow between the two bodies, coming out of the head of the little one, it also shows two serpents ...



Native American Indians usually had a big bird god at the top of their totem poles, notice this one has a human in the belly of the bird.




posted on Jul, 10 2011 @ 08:15 PM
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When people first started to change God into man's image they kept features of God ...

The God Hapy was a male with breast/s, it is now claimed he was a hermaphrodite and was used to symbolize the futility of the Nile.

Being a male and having breasts, is not a sign of being a hermaphrodite, all males can breast feed (this is proven fact) so it is just an ignorant way of viewing these gods. Hapy was always shown as having a swollen belly, like his belly was a pouch or contained something.

God Hapy, in fountain shape, Roman Imperial Period, 1st C. AD





Another image of happy showing him with a protruding stomach and at least one droopy breast.





posted on Jul, 10 2011 @ 08:16 PM
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In the days of ancient Egypt the pharaohs, knew the truth?

They covered their heads with a head dress or mask representing god and they placed at the front, the two main features of God.



A bird vulture Nekhbet representing themselves and a cobra (Uadjet) representing their probes

These same features are thought the bible in the serpent and the eagle also the dragon depending on whether they want to show the good or bad? side of God.

However the cobra is also the female energy and perhaps also represented the goddess which conjoined with God.

The ankh in the early Egyptian church was interchangeable with the cross and symbolised the hope of life in one world and the breath of life in the other. It is now the feminine symbol and was always shown with Isis or Hathor as giving life.


Uadjet

In art, Uadjet appeared as a cobra, sometimes winged and crowned, and sometimes as a snake with the face of a woman. She was the uraeus (cobra-shaped symbol of sovereignty) that appeared on the headdresses of the Egyptian pharaohs.






Wadjet (cobra) and Nebket.(vulture) ... notice the cobra goes "into" the eye or from the eye - the eye is an opening?





posted on Jul, 10 2011 @ 08:40 PM
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This is quite a good web page I found about the PARABLES

“I Speak in Parables So They WON’T Understand.”

www.goodnewsaboutgod.com...



posted on Jul, 11 2011 @ 02:20 AM
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Excellent thread.

Very interestin reading.

I have been a devout spiritual person for most my life. Im a very rational and un emotional person, and my faith doesnt fit my personality. But i "know" , I have unshakable faith.

This all makes sense to me in so many ways, but I am always afraid of the well spoken lie. I know of no limit to the devils ability to confuse those that do not follow him.

I need to think about this some more.



posted on Jul, 11 2011 @ 04:16 AM
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Nice one Aprilsky, after our sticky start in threads previous, I've really enjoyed reading this thread, stars throughout, even one to undo and thats as rare as rocking horse err pooh, I watched The Dark Crystal last night and was reminded of this thread.

Again thanks for the clarity the earlier threads were so opaque, why did you previously avoid openness?



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