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I'm not aware of any such stories. Even in our oath to help our brethren, there's a line that essentially says "only if there's a greater chance of saving his life than losing my own." Even when passing the hat for money collections in the Scottish Rite, we're instructed to give as much as we might spend unnecessarily in a day. The general gist, in my opinion, is that it's always better to live another day so that one could continue to make an impact on the world, than to die unnecessarily; likewise, we ask that you be charitable, but not to the point of your own destitution.
Originally posted by 8311-XHT
Thanks for the reply, Josh. Have you heard anything about "sacrifice" in Freemasonry? Are you familiar with any historical accounts of Freemasons having to sacrifice their lives for important causes?
I'm not very well versed on Socratic method, but it's certainly one method of learning that for whatever reason may not be as popular today. Likewise, one of the reasons I was interested in joining Masonry to begin with was the method of teaching through allegory. I've got a lot of formal western education under my belt, but had never really gotten the chance to try that method of learning.
Originally posted by 8311-XHT
I just feel like this "asking for information" thing is a little strange. Imagine if our education system was like this. And how do ou know what to ask about? I wonder if this attitude may be why our education system is so poor in the US.
Oh, have no doubt, it IS conceived by some as "sexist". But just because that's some people's opinion of it doesn't lessen its effectiveness as an educational technique or social organization.
Originally posted by Grey Magic
In my opinion the old freemasonry compared to mixed freemasonry might be conceived by some as "sexist"
Originally posted by network dude
Originally posted by Bdizzl3
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How can you be sure that you are given full access to all the knowledge and that there are no secrets?
time, effort, experiences, and study.
Originally posted by Moduli
Originally posted by gabby2011
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What makes you so sure that there not advanced technologies you are being kept in the dark about, but other scientists may know of.
The same way I am sure there is no super-advanced arithmetic that the government is keeping from us! Simply, I know enough arithmetic to know what that would mean that that it is not a sensible claim to make.
I haven't seen it happen too often, but occasionally we find out that someone who recently joined us actually was hiding a felony conviction. In such cases, they're kicked out of the fraternity. I mean, that's really the only form of sanctioning we could give, to be honest. We're an organization where you have to want to be a member. The worst punishment, then, is not allowing that.
Originally posted by 8311-XHT
Have you encountered anything about punishment within Freemasonry? What if someone betrays the Freemason codes or standards?
I'm a 3rd degree Master Mason, and a 32° member of the Scottish Rite. Those are the only two Masonic organizations that I belong to that confer degrees. I'm also a member of two non-degree-conferring Masonic clubs, and serve as an officer in one of them this year.
Originally posted by naeem11111
What is the latest degree you have attained?
A member of my lodge, elected by his brethren to lead the lodge for a one year term, who has served previous years in other officer positions within the lodge. If the chain of officers goes unbroken, I may be Worshipful Master of the same lodge in 5 years, should I be elected to serve as such.
Who is your worshipful master?
God. You know, the guy who actually designed the universe and everything in it?
Who is the one that Freemasons refer to as the "greatest" architect of the universe?
I've never heard of a roman who created the forces of gravitation, the orbit of electrons in an atom or planets in a solar system. I've never heard of a roman who wove the careful balance of elements that has allowed life to live on this planet. If your research has lead you to such a mortal, what was his name?
From my reserach I think it refers to a highly ambitious Roman.
In the Scottish Rite? No. Just as in the Blue Lodge, there are no degrees beyond the 3rd (well, unless you count the Royal Arch degree, which most American systems don't), and no degree beyond Knight Templar in the York Rite, or no degree beyond the 95th(?) degree in the Rite of Memphis & Mizraim.
Are there any degrees beyond the 33rd degree?
Do tell, what Masonic organization confers them and what are they called? Where can I order lapel pins for them, because you know all Masons are really keen on collecting lapel pins.
I am confident there are three more which symbolises an individuals progression.
Because there's been no proof that their founders were the Knights Templar. Absent such proof, we can only speculate.
Why do Freemasons still deny their founders were the Knights Templar? (after the organisations "destruction")
Originally posted by naeem11111
reply to post by network dude
What is the latest degree you have attained?
Who is your worshipful master?
Who is the one that Freemasons refer to as the "greatest" architect of the universe? From my reserach I think it refers to a highly ambitious Roman.
Are there any degrees beyond the 33rd degree? I am confident there are three more which symbolises an individuals progression.
It's not that we deny them, it's that we cannot find true proof of lineage. We still have degrees dedicated to them, and still talk about the Templar ideas, but we have not found that historical marker that unites us. Pike thought it existed, and many others have tried to find it, but as of yet, it is still missing. I would be proud to be associated with such honorable men.
Why do Freemasons still deny their founders were the Knights Templar? (after the organisations "destruction")
Originally posted by naeem11111
reply to post by network dude
What is the latest degree you have attained?
I am first and foremost a Master Mason . I am also a York Rite Mason , 32nd degree in the Scottish Rite and the Worthy Patron of my OES Chapter .
Who is your worshipful master?
I am the Master of my Lodge .
Who is the one that Freemasons refer to as the "greatest" architect of the universe?
God.
Are there any degrees beyond the 33rd degree? I am confident there are three more which symbolises an individuals progression.
There is none , but seeing how you know more about it than actual Masons , then by all means , enlighten us on these " three more" .
Why do Freemasons still deny their founders were the Knights Templar? (after the organisations "destruction")
As already stated , there is no evidence to prove this to be true . But if you have further evidence that serious researchers have not found , then please share it with us .