Originally posted by SaturnFX
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Guns
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I am not a gun owner...unless the gun is made of pixels, then I am ultimately not a fan. I prefer swords..however, I do understand the enjoyment of gun ownership (I once owned a BB Gun, I was a mightly slayer of tin cans).
In the UK, you can own a shotgun if your a farmer...otherwise, nope...no collections, no handguns, etc...hell, even the average cop is left with little more than a billy club and a array of sarcastic remarks to stop crime.

This point can be argued either way...sure, murder and other violent crimes are far less than america, however percentagewise, the english have to deal with more burglery and other "minor" crimes.
Tradeoff? debateable..but its a difference that some would consider unacceptable (hold dead hands and whatnot).
And they are going to be in poor shape for the coming zombie apocolypse

Yep that is one pro of America, having a gun or a sword and your free to walk around with it on you, if I'm wrong then it just says that people have some shadow issues. (Shadow being their fear, everyone has it, just facing it is the hardest thing anyone can do.)

Originally posted by FreedomCommander
Yep that is one pro of America, having a gun or a sword and your free to walk around with it on you, if I'm wrong then it just says that people have some shadow issues. (Shadow being their fear, everyone has it, just facing it is the hardest thing anyone can do.)

You know, I used to be fairly anti-gun overall...figured it was dangerous and primitive..sign of insecurity overall.

Then I listened to someone's short and sweet comment on it which turned my thinking around.

He said he goes everywhere with his gun (that he can go...no, he won't walk into a bank or whatnot with one, but you get the point)

His explanation was that it is not to threaten anyone, its to show that he cannot be threatened.
To talk to a person, debate a person, etc...you have only 2 ways of communicating
Either its done through convincing, or threatening.
If you have a gun on you, then that basically eliminates the threat method of making someone do what you want on a person to person level, therefore the only method left of debate is through convincing through merits and other cerebral ways.

It made sense to me...right, if I want something from someone, I am not going to threaten to take it from him if he is packing...I will instead request it, offer to buy it, etc...and that is how I personally would want to be treated (no threats).

It made me realize that the solution is to remove guns, but rather, find a way to arm everyone..that seems a better way to keep the peace.

I like the philosophy a lot. however, I personally am not a fan of firearms...as I said, give me a blade and I am happy...there is more art and civilty in blade fighting face to face than shooting someone 20 feet away..no accidents with a sword, every strike is meant, not just a warning slash gone wrong.

Oh beautiful
for spacious skies
for amber waves of grain
for purple mountains majesty
above the fruited plains

America, America, God shed his grace on thee
and crown thy good with brotherhood
from sea to shining sea

That pretty much says it all.

we should measure the best country as the one that has the most people sneaking across their border illegaly.(JOKE)

bugger the both of you, New Zealand is where it is at. 4million people, a land area similar to colorado. biggest city has just over 1million people but best of all only a quarter of us live in the south island and the majority of those live in two cities.

so i think i will pick my place over your place any day.

I'd be willing to wager that the average citizen of England possesses superior grammar, spelling and punctuation skills than the average American.

Wouldn't you agree, OP?

wait, this is ATS !

what independence ?

we are all slaves to the lizards !!!!!

Growing up in the U.K., I appreciated America more. Because, for me, America just didn't start 200+ years ago. America has deep roots in England. We share so much of the same history, same values, similar culture.

That being said, I still can't figure out cricket. Or eel pie.

I do likes me some Bubble and Squeek though.

Originally posted by syrinx high priest
wait, this is ATS !

what independence ?

we are all slaves to the lizards !!!!!

Behold, your king

ur thread proves it..americans are small little kids who want to be better and ...who have the biggest debt in the world