Why America is better than England, a Independence Day Thread

page: 16
22
<< 13  14  15    17 >>

log in

join

posted on Jul, 3 2011 @ 10:06 AM
link   

Originally posted by wcitizen
It would be nice to express appreciation for the things you appreciate about your country without having to make a negative comparison to another one.

This 'one nation is better/worse than another' belongs to the old paradigm. It's shameful that we aren't all living in the abundance which is rightfully ours - and it's shameful that some countries are wealthy at the expense of exploiting others.

Time to make a paradigm shift, OP, and realise that we are all one and need to make that happen in our world.


Which country was that you were thinking of?




posted on Jul, 3 2011 @ 10:15 AM
link   

Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus


Which country was that you were thinking of?


I don't understand your question.



posted on Jul, 3 2011 @ 10:16 AM
link   

Originally posted by neformore
Really?

A stereotypical post under the auspices of the 4th July turned into a territorial peeing contest?

Sorry...but that's sad and divisive.

Its even sadder seeing people buying into the stereotypes.



Well I'm nothing like a sterotypical Scot and sometimes I think it's good to have a laugh at ourselves, which I really do think this thread is achieving, in fact it reminds me a bit of my favourite local poet's musings on a self-righteous preacher; Holy Willie

O Thou, that in the heavens does dwell,
As it pleases best Thysel',
Sends aen to Heaven an' ten to Hell,
For Thy glory,
And no for onie guid or ill
They've done afore Thee!

I bless and praise Thy matchless might,
When thousands Thou hast left in night,
That I am here afore Thy sight,
For gifts an' grace
A burning and a shining light
To a' this place.

What was I, or my generation,
That I should get sic exaltation?
I wha deserv'd most just damnation
For broken laws,
Six thousand years 'ere my creation,
Thro' Adam's cause.

When from my mither's womb I fell,
Thou might hae plung'd me deep in hell,
To gnash my gums, and weep and wail,
In burnin lakes,
Where damned devils roar and yell,
Chain'd to their stakes.

Yet I am here a chosen sample,
To show thy grace is great and ample;
I'm here a pillar o' Thy temple,
Strong as a rock,
A guide, a buckler, and example,
To a' Thy flock.

O Lord, Thou kens what zeal I bear,
When drinkers drink, an' swearers swear,
An' singing here, an' dancin there,
Wi' great and sma';
For I am keepit by Thy fear
Free frae them a'.

But yet, O Lord! confess I must,
At times I'm fash'd wi' fleshly lust:
An' sometimes, too, in worldly trust,
Vile self gets in;
But Thou remembers we are dust,
Defil'd wi' sin.

O Lord! yestreen, Thou kens, wi' Meg
Thy pardon I sincerely beg;
O may't ne'er be a livin' plague
To my dishonour,
An' I'll ne'er lift a lawless leg
Again upon her.

Besides, I farther maun avow,
Wi' Leezie's lass, three times I trow -
But Lord, that Friday I was fou,
When I cam near her;
Or else, Thou kens, Thy servant true
Wad never steer her.

Maybe Thou lets this fleshly thorn
Buffet Thy servant e'en and morn,
Lest he owre proud and high shou'd turn,
That he's sae gifted:
If sae, Thy han' maun e'en be borne,
Until Thou lift it.

Lord, bless Thy chosen in this place,
For here Thou has a chosen race!
But God confound there stuborn face,
An' blast their name,
Wha brings Thy elders to disgrace
An' open shame.

Lord, mind Gaw'n Hamilton's deserts;
He drinks, an' swears, an' plays at cartes,
Yet has sae mony takin arts,
Wi' great an' sma',
Frae God's ain priest the people's hearts
He steals awa'.

And when we chasten'd him therefore,
Thou kens how he bred sic a splore,
And set the world in a roar
O' laughing at us;
Curse Thou his basket and his store,
Kail an' potatoes.

Lord, hear my earnest cry and pray'r,
Against that Presbyt'ry o' Ayr;
Thy strong right hand, Lord mak it bare
Upo' their heads;
Lord visit them, an' dinna spare,
For their misdeeds.

O Lord my God! that glib-tongu'd Aitken,
My vera heart an' flesh are quakin,
To think how we stood sweatin, shakin,
An' pish'd wi' dread,
While he, wi' hingin lip an' snakin,
Held up his head.

Lord, in Thy day o' vengeance try him,
Lord, visit them wha did employ him,
And pass not in Thy mercy by them,
Nor hear their pray'r,
But for Thy people's sake destroy them,
An' dinna spare.

But, Lord, remember me an' mine
Wi' mercies temporal and divine,
That I for grace an' gear may shine,
Excell'd by nane,
And a' the glory shall be Thine,
Amen, Amen!

(Holy Willie's Prayer)

And another musing from oor Rabbie...

O wad some Power the giftie gie us, To see oursels as ithers see us!

(from To A Louse)

(not quoted from any particular source, I have a Robert Burns poetry book here...nightmare to type out because I don't speak in the auld scots tongue...



posted on Jul, 3 2011 @ 10:19 AM
link   
reply to post by Alfie1
 


Well, a couple of things strike me with your post. First, you list nationalized healthcare as a great plus. I have noticed others from the UK talking about their socialistic programs as if that was part of the Old Culture too somehow. Next you talk about the Monarchy, which you have preserved. I can't wait till someone calls you on the shape-shifting thing though, and the Illuminati bloodlines, and the European bankers who are still running things. How about that BP oil spill courtesy of the Rothschilds. However, the upside to that whole preserving of the monarchy is that Marxism hates it, and good on England for not giving it up. Also I would like to put in a good word for The Quest for the Holy Grail, Stonehenge, and the Knights of the Round Table, Merlin, and Guinevere, as well as the most wonderful countryside imaginable. I also like Laura Ashley and Houses in the Cotswolds, English style dress from the Edwardian period to the 40's.

Here, this place would do for me


www.rightmove.co.uk...;jsessionid=ACD383052FDB45E752FB14B5D12D4714

I nearly forgot, my favorite childhood stories, the Tale of Peter Rabbit by Beatrix Potter
edit on 3-7-2011 by ThirdEyeofHorus because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 3 2011 @ 10:26 AM
link   
reply to post by destination now
 


A nation that can't laugh at itself is just doomd for failure.

This has been a great thread!




posted on Jul, 3 2011 @ 10:33 AM
link   

Originally posted by wcitizen

Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus


Which country was that you were thinking of?


I don't understand your question.


Which country was getting wealthy by exploiting others?



posted on Jul, 3 2011 @ 10:39 AM
link   
reply to post by destination now
 


Ah! poetry My dad was in the Robbie Burns Society and his favorite poem was this....

On Seeing One On A Lady's Bonnet, At Church
1786


O wad some Power the giftie gie us To see oursels as ithers see us!
It wad frae mony a blunder free us,
An' foolish notion:
What airs in dress an' gait wad lea'e us,
An' ev'n devotion!


www.robertburns.org...



posted on Jul, 3 2011 @ 10:49 AM
link   

Originally posted by majestic3
I live in the uk and i've all ways wanted to move to america but when my chance came not so long a go i thought i would stay put if i wanted the best life for my kid because why move some where that has
a higher crime rate than where i live
worse weather tornadoes etc
more alien abductions
more terrorists
secret societies a nazi controled government
fema camps
more past nukclear explosions than any where else on the planets
snakes
floride in the water where i live we don't get that
tests on the genral populus
i don't like my county but i do like my safety hence why im stay put




hahaha snakes, that's pretty funny! But in all reality you are right about all that stuff. The Illuminati are trying reallyh hard to bring down the country that represents the Flame of Freedom.
edit on 3-7-2011 by ThirdEyeofHorus because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 3 2011 @ 11:02 AM
link   
reply to post by Muckster
 


Now, I have to call you on the banjo ban! Bluegrass is very American too! Check out one of our most famous actor/comedians




posted on Jul, 3 2011 @ 11:05 AM
link   

Originally posted by beezzer
1) We speak English.

We speak 'Merican.

2) We can have a conversation at normal audio levels without interspersing it with "HELL YEAH" "ALRIGHT" and "USA,USA" etc...

Federal law. We have to do that.

3) We don’t do silly high fives; we simply shake hands like grown ups.

We invented the fist-bump with the splayed fingers.

4) We do not believe what our government tells us.

Our government says you're lying.

5) We are educated.

I don't need triggernometry. I already know how to shoot.

6) Our homes don’t have wheels.

Then how can you do NASCAR?

7) The Banjo is banned under common decency laws.

Your loss. (hee-yuk)

8) Although marrying cousins is legal it is not widely accepted.

We aren't french for gods sake!

9) We don’t have to have our national flag on everything we own.

Then how do you know what nationality you are?

10) We know the meaning of the word “Humble”.

We know the word. We're the BEST at it!

11) We realise that there are other countries in the world.

More Americas? Not likely.

12) We can “walk” to our shops (Remember that one America?? Walking??)

We walk to our cars. Actally, I have a scooter for that.

13) Our Queen (God bless her) is actually the ruler of the entire world, unlike Obama who just runs America!.

Obama is a King! (didn't get the memo?)

14) When you look into our eyes you see the sane, calm and tranquil look of a pedigree... Not the cross-eyed, insane, and slightly angry look of a mongrel.

*scratching a flea* Huh?

15) We drink Tea.

Is that a brand of coffee?

16) We know which fork is for starters.

Trick question. You don't use a fork for starters. You use a wrench.

17) We know which spoon is for desert.

Silly brits. Why use spoon for beer?

18) If we ever lost a War we would never make a thousand movies about it so that we could collectively wallow in self-pity

USA, USA, USA, USA,. . . . what was the question?

19) When we win wars we have a dignified parade which involves the crowd quietly waving flags and clapping politely.

We have quiet dignified parades. Then we invade countries and blow stuff up.

20) We invented Comedy Sarcasm and Irony

We invented fart jokes.

21) We are the only country in the world that does actually LOVE America and Americans

Awwww, big hugs, puddin'.

You guys made me laugh so much with the lists.
I just wanted to add to this thread that if your english then america is the better country, If you decide to move to america that is.
First of most americans i have met seem to think i am smart funny smart charming and just all around great.(that just when they've heard my accent)
seriously I moved here after i finished my GCSE(age 16) now i don't know if that is the equivalent to a high school diploma but everyone here seems to think that so i went with it. American GIRLS love my accent i just need to say words they don't need to make sense. My first interview here i aced because the women loved my accent. I don't think im a Casanova or anything it was purely my accent (and im sort of charming when i want to be) So i really think for the englishman america can be the better country!

EDIT: forgot to add your saving are worth a hell of a lot more here in the USA. Just look at the houses in the south. If you can get a job here i say go with it you could probably buy a big house with pool and some good land for around 75-100,000 pounds . What could you get for 100k in england? # all!
edit on 3-7-2011 by Bixxi3 because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 3 2011 @ 12:31 PM
link   

Originally posted by SaturnFX
And to the english currently grumbling at this thread and ready to throw your tea at the monitor, Know that we jab because we love



And the English viciously jab us to project their insecurities about their own country onto the U.S.



posted on Jul, 3 2011 @ 12:34 PM
link   

Originally posted by Kryties
Hmmm, Murder and other violent crimes VS burglery and minor crimes. On what planet do you think that being able to keep your guns is a better tradeoff than having to deal with a little burglery or whatnot? Ask a murdered person if they would prefer to be alive if it meant they had their TV stolen.....I can guarantee I know what the answer will be.


Actually the UK has an astonishing percent of violent crimes.. sure they don't involve murder.. but there is much more violence in the UK as a percent of crime, than looking at gun related deaths in the U.S.



posted on Jul, 3 2011 @ 12:52 PM
link   
reply to post by Drezden
 


You are comparing gun crime with the OVER ALL crime in the uk?
Or did I misunderstand something..?



posted on Jul, 3 2011 @ 01:03 PM
link   
Have we gone a whole 16 pages and nobody has posted this yet?
Apologies if they have.




NOTICE OF REVOCATION OF INDEPENDENCE

To the citizens of the United States of America, In the light of your failure to elect a competent President of the USA and thus to govern yourselves, we hereby give notice of the revocation of your independence, effective today. Her Sovereign Majesty Queen Elizabeth II will resume monarchical duties over all states, commonwealths and other territories. (Except Utah, which she does not fancy.) Your new prime minister (The Right Honourable David Cameron, MP for the 97.85% of you who have until now been unaware that there is a world outside your borders) will appoint a minister for America without the need for further elections. Congress and the Senate will be disbanded. A questionnaire will be circulated next year to determine whether any of you noticed. To aid in the transition to a British Crown Dependency, the following rules are introduced with immediate effect:

1. You should look up "revocation" in the Oxford English Dictionary. Then look up "aluminium". Check the pronunciation guide. You will be amazed at just how wrongly you have been pronouncing it. The letter 'U' will be reinstated in words such as 'favour' and 'neighbour', skipping the letter 'U' is nothing more than laziness on your part. Likewise, you will learn to spell 'doughnut' without skipping half the letters. You will end your love affair with the letter 'Z' (pronounced 'zed' not 'zee') and the suffix "ize" will be replaced by the suffix "ise". You will learn that the suffix 'burgh is pronounced 'burra' e.g. Edinburgh. You are welcome to respell Pittsburgh as 'Pittsberg' if you can't cope with correct pronunciation. Generally, you should raise your vocabulary to acceptable levels. Look up "vocabulary".

Using the same twenty seven words interspersed with filler noises such as "like" and "you know" is an unacceptable and inefficient form of communication. Look up "interspersed". There will be no more 'bleeps' in the Jerry Springer show. If you're not old enough to cope with bad language then you shouldn't have chat shows. When you learn to develop your vocabulary then you won't have to use bad language as often.

2. There is no such thing as "US English". We will let Microsoft know on your behalf. The Microsoft spell-checker will be adjusted to take account of the reinstated letter 'u' and the elimination of "-ize".

3. You should learn to distinguish the English and Australian accents. It really isn't that hard. English accents are not limited to cockney, upper-class twit or Mancunian (Daphne in Frasier). You will also have to learn how to understand regional accents - Scottish dramas such as "Taggart" will no longer be broadcast with subtitles. While we're talking about regions, you must learn that there is no such place as Devonshire in England. The name of the county is "Devon". If you persist in calling it Devonshire, all American States will become "shires" e.g. Texasshire, Floridashire, Louisianashire.

4. Hollywood will be required occasionally to cast English actors as the good guys. Hollywood will be required to cast English actors to play English characters. British sit-coms such as "Men Behaving Badly" or "Red Dwarf" will not be re-cast and watered down for a wishy-washy American audience who can't cope with the humour of occasional political incorrectness.

5. You should relearn your original national anthem, "God Save The Queen", but only after fully carrying out task 1. We would not want you to get confused and give up half way through.

6. You should stop playing American "football". There is only one kind of football. What you refer to as American "football" is not a very good game. The 2.15% of you who are aware that there is a world outside your borders may have noticed that no one else plays "American" football. You will no longer be allowed to play it, and should instead play proper football. Initially, it would be best if you played with the girls. It is a difficult game. Those of you brave enough will, in time, be allowed to play rugby (which is similar to American "football", but does not involve stopping for a rest every twenty seconds or wearing full kevlar body armour like nancies). We are hoping to get together at least a US Rugby sevens side by 2012. You should stop playing baseball. It is not reasonable to host an event called the 'World Series' for a game which is not played outside of America. Since only 2.15% of you are aware that there is a world beyond your borders, your error is understandable. Instead of baseball, you will be allowed to play a girls' game called "rounders" which is baseball without fancy team strip, oversized gloves, collector cards or hotdogs.

7. You will no longer be allowed to own or carry guns. You will no longer be allowed to own or carry anything more dangerous in public than a vegetable peeler. Because we don't believe you are sensible enough to handle potentially dangerous items, you will require a permit if you wish to carry a vegetable peeler in public.

8. July 4th is no longer a public holiday. November 2nd will be a new national holiday, but only in England. It will be called "Indecisive Day".

9. All American cars are hereby banned. They are crap and it is for your own good. When we show you German cars, you will understand what we mean. All road intersections will be replaced with roundabouts. You will start driving on the left with immediate effect. At the same time, you will go metric with immediate effect and without the benefit of conversion tables. Roundabouts and metrication will help you understand the British sense of humour.

10. You will learn to make real chips. Those things you call French fries are not real chips. Fries aren't even French, they are Belgian though 97.85% of you (including the guy who discovered fries while in Europe) are not aware of a country called Belgium. Those things you insist on calling potato chips are properly called "crisps". Real chips are thick cut and fried in animal fat. The traditional accompaniment to chips is beer which should be served warm and flat. Waitresses will be trained to be more aggressive with customers.

11. As a sign of penance 5 grams of sea salt per cup will be added to all tea made within the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, this quantity to be doubled for tea made within the city of Boston itself.

12. The cold tasteless stuff you insist on calling beer is not actually beer at all, it is lager. From November 1st only proper British Bitter will be referred to as "beer", and European brews of known and accepted provenance will be referred to as "Lager". The substances formerly known as "American Beer" will henceforth be referred to as "Near-Frozen Knat's Urine", with the exception of the product of the American Budweiser company whose product will be referred to as "Weak Near-Frozen Knat's Urine". This will allow true Budweiser (as manufactured for the last 1000 years in Pilsen, Czech Republic) to be sold without risk of confusion.

13. From November 10th the UK will harmonise petrol (or "Gasoline" as you will be permitted to keep calling it until April 1st 2012) prices with the former USA. The UK will harmonise its prices to those of the former USA and the Former USA will, in return, adopt UK petrol prices (roughly $6/US gallon - get used to it).

14. You will learn to resolve personal issues without using guns, lawyers or therapists. The fact that you need so many lawyers and therapists shows that you're not adult enough to be independent. Guns should only be handled by adults. If you're not adult enough to sort things out without suing someone or speaking to a therapist then you're not grown up enough to handle a gun.

15. Please tell us who killed JFK. It's been driving us crazy. Tax collectors from Her Majesty's Government will be with you shortly to ensure the acquisition of all revenues due (backdated to 1776).

16. Last but not the least, and for heaven's sake.....it's Nuclear as in "clear" NOT Nucular. Thank you for your co-operation and have a great day.

Signed The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.




posted on Jul, 3 2011 @ 01:05 PM
link   

Originally posted by Muckster
Sticking up for my fellow countrymen here (all in good jest)

England
is better than America
because...

1) We speak English.

Tell this guy:




2) We can have a conversation at normal audio levels without interspersing it with "HELL YEAH" "ALRIGHT" and "USA,USA" etc...

Sure, but you lace things with evil plotting...can't even order a currey without some form of world domination plot hatching during the ordering process


3) We don’t do silly high fives; we simply shake hands like grown ups.

unoriginal



4) We do not believe what our government tells us.

which, the prop govermnent, or the secret reptilian overlords you lot hide?



5) We are educated.

See first video



6) Our homes don’t have wheels.

Jealous



7) The Banjo is banned under common decency laws.

Ok, so that is a good point



8) Although marrying cousins is legal it is not widely accepted.

Tell that to your prince



9) We don’t have to have our national flag on everything we own.

anymore...revolutions worldwide removed alot of what you used to own


10) We know the meaning of the word “Humble”.

Yes, holding then losing the world would teach that lesson
No thanks necessary




11) We realise that there are other countries in the world.

Right...it was taught through maps of conquest



12) We can “walk” to our shops (Remember that one America?? Walking??)

When petrol is 8$ a gallon, no freaking doubt your walking



13) Our Queen (God bless her) is actually the ruler of the entire world, unlike Obama who just runs America!.

So, its her fault the world is in such a screwed up situation...



14) When you look into our eyes you see the sane, calm and tranquil look of a pedigree... Not the cross-eyed, insane, and slightly angry look of a mongrel.

If you can look into their eyes, typically its facing down in a pose of defeat



15) We drink Tea.

soggy leaves in water...



16) We know which fork is for starters.

We have portions to our meals



17) We know which spoon is for desert.

We have desert that actually tastes good



18) If we ever lost a War we would never make a thousand movies about it so that we could collectively wallow in self-pity

If...
Perhaps you should make movies to see all the wars you have lost over the past few hundred years...from world conquorers to some folks on a tiny island...ya, you lost a couple here and there...no if about it.



19) When we win wars we have a dignified parade which involves the crowd quietly waving flags and clapping politely.

the parade of course is held up by the slaves and coffers emptied from the defeated land...



20) We invented Comedy Sarcasm and Irony

close, you became sarcastic about the irony of your comedic fall



21) We are the only country in the world that does actually LOVE America and Americans


America is the son of England
Thats incest!




Peace

edit on 3-7-2011 by Muckster because: I am an Englishman who cannot spell


Kidding about this all, I love England and the greater UK. Your little island is one of like 2 spots on earth I would go and die defending if need be...and I would find it sad if the toungue in cheek bickering ever ended in times of peace.
Thanks for the reply



posted on Jul, 3 2011 @ 01:09 PM
link   
England tried and experiment sometime back

They sent all their criminals to Australia, and all their religious fanatics to America.

We (USA) got robbed! I demand a switch now.



posted on Jul, 3 2011 @ 01:16 PM
link   
reply to post by ThirdEyeofHorus
 



I think this Banjo scene covers everything. It has drama. What appears to be a young Patrick Stewart {Capt Picard} playing a banjo and the proverbial family tooth scenario.





posted on Jul, 3 2011 @ 01:16 PM
link   

Originally posted by moonrunner
America must be great, that's why so many Americans don't have passports, no need to go anywhere else, right?
Well, unless it's to start an war.


Our passports typically come with ammo.


Actually, I will defend this one point. I used to get so frustrated at how so many do not have a passport, but then it hit me.
Why do people go on vacation? Well, even in england, its usually for things like, sun, amusement, etc...only a minority go for historical views and whatnot.

England doesn't have long white sand beaches, or the opposite great skiing resorts, etc...its like Seattle for weather and new england countryside...thats pretty much it from north to south, east to west...not much difference

So, it makes sense that you get a passport there easily..

In the states, if we want to ski, you go to many places (say Colorado), if you want desert, you go to nevada, if you want white sand beaches, you go to california or florida, if you want some olde historic feel, you go to savannah, or various parts of the north, etc etc etc. so, the person considering vacation can pay a bajillion dollars to go to spain for the beach, or spend some gas money and just drive to the same thing but with the added bonus of knowing the language with very little flight time.

Personally, I think people become better when they travel the world, but I can understand the logic of someone on this side of the world not bothering

If all of europe unites and gets a single europe id with no passport necessary, you will find many europeans will not own passports also due to diversity in their own land.



posted on Jul, 3 2011 @ 08:53 PM
link   

Originally posted by Shamatt

Originally posted by pikestaff
Many years ago, an old guy I knew said something that, even to this day, I don't know if he was joking or not " the USA is great, the UK is great, trouble is, the USA is full of foreigners, and the UK is full of English" Even now, after all those years, I still don't get it.


Knowing what the nationality the guy was would help in understanding it.
edit on 3-7-2011 by Shamatt because: (no reason given)



My guess would be that he was Scottish... :-)



posted on Jul, 3 2011 @ 09:05 PM
link   

Originally posted by SaturnFX
England tried and experiment sometime back

They sent all their criminals to Australia, and all their religious fanatics to America.

We (USA) got robbed! I demand a switch now.




Scotland, by comparison, prevented anyone leaving the country who didn't have a University Scroll (A Degree Education.)

That is to say, during the early centuries of Colonisation, everyone from Scotland had a University Education.

P.s. America was also populated by the out-pourings of English prisons, not just Australia... :-)





new topics
top topics
 
22
<< 13  14  15    17 >>

log in

join