Six Brainwashing Techniques They're Using On You Right Now, page 2


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reply posted on 2-7-2011 @ 11:18 AM by thorfourwinds
reply to post by AeonStorm



Greetings:

Great thread!

We only got to "... used to sacrifice a goat..." and had to stop and STAR & FLAG ypur OP.

Congratulations for excellence to where we have read so far and keep digging.

You might find this thread interesting, as we seem to share many of the same thoughts and think you are on the right track:

The Domino Effect of February 2011 - I Had a Dream About America's Future

Looking forward to further reading and communication.

In Peace, Love & Light

tfw


reply posted on 2-7-2011 @ 11:30 AM by Xaberz
I really liked this thread. I was kind of creeped out by the Walmart chant when I was watching it play. Which is funny, because I bet if I worked at Walmart and had to do that, I'd be right there clapping along, and thinking how fun this was, and how I was glad we did that because it improved group morale and made people happier, which isn't necessarily a bad thing.

I totally agree with the source amnesia too. If there is one thing I learned in life, it's that the mind is fallible. There are so many times I'm so sure that so-and-so was in a certain movie, or that such and such was the answer to a question. And I even would argue with friends over what and what was true. Oftentimes I was right, but sometimes I was completely wrong, and I start wondering in my head, how could I have thought that was true and be so sure? I think this is really connected to source amnesia because it plays on the idea that you really think something actually happened or is actually true, where in reality it's not the case.

And whenever reading about politics, it's always conservatives vs. liberals, and it's so hard to be middle of the road. If a liberal is too conservative, liberals don't like him, and if a conservative is too liberal, it's the same way. Or if a politician is honest, people get upset about how can he say something like that? but of course if a politician is dishonest, people get upset about how corrupt they are. The whole political world is such a lose-lose situation when it comes to winning people's hearts and minds, where the only time you can appease everyone is when you don't take a side at all, and use fancy language to make it look like you are answering the questing without either consenting or dissenting.


reply posted on 2-7-2011 @ 11:56 AM by Jrocbaby
Originally posted by muzzleflash
Well I guess I didn't articulate any good examples of what I meant. It's nothing special or anything though, just mundane normal stuff.

In real life you can get a feel for people, since you usually know what job they do other basic things. Walking down the street this means nothing because we don't stop and talk to people on the street 95% of the time. Point is there are probably people you know in real life that you try to tell them about ATS type subjects or news.

And they will REJECT it hardcore. Knee-jerk style.

We have seen all of these reactions before on ATS in the very threads and topics that are rejected in real life.

Depending on who the person is, their disposition and their tendencies, you have to treat each differently.

Example:

When I talk to my grandmother, and want her to be informed about certain aspects of our corrupt world and how I am against it and think it sucks, I will speak in the context of the Bible.

Now I am not religious, but I am very keen about what their book says.

This is a very strong advantage with this particular type of person, I can actually get her to admit that the government is bad. Now that may seem like nothing big, but she is one of those people that voted for G W Bush, twice ok. Twice.

I think I may have actually turned her against "Them" totally. I used Biblical references to establish a bridge between what she agrees with and what she may not want to admit.

It is using one of the tactics listed above in a particular format, the "Us vs Them" paradigm. "Either you're with us or you're against us."

I lay it out like this, either she agrees with Jesus, or she agrees with evil humans. This makes my job extremely easy, because she obviously chooses Jesus.


You might have just made me have a realization moment, thats how people can just instantly disagree with something that has good facts to support it, which I have had problems with.

Time to work on the craft


reply posted on 2-7-2011 @ 12:02 PM by Jedimind
OK article with some good points (most that I've been aware of already) but I don't like the not so subtle anti right wing / conservative message it gives. Notice that the majority of examples they use as using brainwashing techniques are criticizing the right and/or being a conservative:

1) Drudge report - the articles certainly are meant to appeal to the right wing
2) Alex Jones - a proponent of conservative principles
3) Two or three examples of how the republican side used these techniques during the last presidential campaign
4) Mocking those who 'don't believe the liberal media' even though by any reasonable standards, most mainstream media is of course very liberal.
5) Poking fun at the military which is of course more associated with the right wing.
6) Pointing out how at political conventions people often chant USA. I'm sure it sometimes occurs at a democratic convention but this is much more common at a Republican convention where people are more prone to have much pride in America and our military (see # 5).
7) The McCain getting testy youtube clip.
8) The bookshelf picture shows books mostly of a right wing perspective.

Granted there are a few jabs at the democratic side but each time they do so, they kind of cancel it out but giving a similar example from the right.

I can only assume that the editors of cracked.com are aware that those who go on the cracked.com site are prone to lean to the left and so they make sure their articles will do the same.

I gotta say it kinda angers me to see the way this article is slanted. Much of it is about how during the last presidential election, the right was using these 'brainwashing techniques' to try to make people fear Obama ie. the community organizer stuff, the muslim stuff, he's not one of us, etc.

I'm sure a liberal type would tell me that I'm brainwashed but I for one side with the right about all of that stuff. A former community organizer is NOT the most ideal background for a president to have. It's not a deal breaker, but it's nothing amazing either. Obama's religious connotation has always been a little sketchy. I'm not saying he's a Muslim, but I think the way he comes across in his beliefs is just a little odd. It's almost like his trying to prove his Christianity to us. Not to mention, his former church with Reverend Wright was extremely anti American.
There's been plenty more said about Obama in a much more articulate and informative way here on ATS and elsewhere but I just really believe that the man is not to be trusted with the most powerful position on the planet and I don't just think that because I was brainwashed by the right wing. A big thumbs down for cracked on this one in my opinion in regards to what seems to me to be a hidden message saying it's not okay to question Obama's sketchy past which may be of concern considering he's now the POTS and his true intentions and motives are of utmost importance.
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