A Farewell to Glenn Beck: Good Riddance You Crazy Son...

Originally posted by Soldier of God

Originally posted by seabhac-rua
I see some comments here supporting Glenn Beck and I find it absolutely astounding that people cannot just step back and see that this is propaganda in its very purest form. Now I know that Beck may be saying things that some people here agree with, but how can anybody not hear alarm bells going off when subjected to this attempted manipulation, its insane.

Beck always told listeners and viewers not to take his word for anything but to research everything for themselves. How is that manipulating? You NEVER hear anyone else say that, they insist you believe what you are hearing or seeing. So what are you talking about? Beck spoke the truth about all of the interworkings and behind the scenes deals our media and govt. have going on everyday that no one would have ever put together without him.

You know why he does that? Mainly because he knows so few actually will. He also knows that the majority of his viewers are right wing fanatics and when they do their "research" they will do so with a confirmation bias instead of objective analysis. Its a well know tactic.

reply to post by Kingbreaker

Obama's policies have done more harm than good.
Stimulus has failed.
QE1-2 have done nothing for the economy.
and many others.

A matter of opinion. While I will be the first to criticize Obama, I try to make sure that criticism is grounded in fact not, ideology. He is more than vulnerable to criticism using facts.

As far as the stimulus failing, it has been a right wing talking point since its inception. Funny how none of them mind taking the money though.

Independent economist have also found that were it not for the stimulus package there would be around 2.2 million more people unemployed. I wouldn't call that a failure.

QE1/2 isn't really an Obama policy. The fed, unfortunately, is an independent entity.

The reason GB has made it so well is because his presentation is vastly different than the other talking heads.

Yes it is. He is full of logical fallacies and will try so hard to draw connections between people and events on his chalkboard, yet none of it stands up to facts. I can make a connection between the fat content of muenster cheese and George Soros with enough chalk.

reply to post by Kingbreaker


You don't know much about the progressive movement, do you?

Do you think it is a new term or that liberals just 'invented' recently?

Maybe take a political science class at your local community college. Or is that to 'intellectually elite'?

I consider myself a progressive, always have and always will. Its nothing to hide behind or be ashamed of.

So you think liberals can be equated with nazism? Seriously?

Never mind the fact that fascism is a right wing ideology. Don't worry that Hitler and the nazis killed many liberals in germany, e.g. socialist and labor union members.

The right has been trying to dodge that fact since WW2 by trying to make Hitler seem like a leftist. Don't fall for that. Please do not use the tired old line of 'the nazis were national socialist, so you see they were left wing' because that was a misnomer. They were playing on the popularity of socialism at the time and trying to gain the support of the working man.

Whether you like or dislike Beck,what he is pioneering in the future for broadcasting.
Anyone believe TV will stay as it is? Beck is on the right track, maybe just early into it.
Gates and Jobs were crazy also.

reply to post by mugger


He has a couple websites.
Is he pioneering into the '90s?

Originally posted by kro32
Way to be tolerant of someone else's views.

I don't see you guys mentioning the other side however like Ed Shulz, Rachael Maddow, or Keith Oberman.

Last time I checked, they didn't have cult followings that consisted of racist, homophobic, and brain dead lunatics who leech onto every single word that a Mormon Comedic Entertainer spits out of his fat ugly mouth.

Beck is a tool and he has added insult to injury when it comes to making right wingers think they're above everyone else.

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Originally posted by mugger
Whether you like or dislike Beck,what he is pioneering in the future for broadcasting.
Anyone believe TV will stay as it is? Beck is on the right track, maybe just early into it.
Gates and Jobs were crazy also.

edit on 7/2/2011 by mugger because: sp

Let me get this straight. You're comparing Glenn Beck to Bill Gates and Steve Jobs? And Beck is on the right track? I see. He got fired from his job at Fox in purpose. It's all part of his brilliant master plan.

Originally posted by megabytz
reply to post by Kingbreaker

 

You don't know much about the progressive movement, do you?

Do you think it is a new term or that liberals just 'invented' recently?

Maybe take a political science class at your local community college. Or is that to 'intellectually elite'?

I consider myself a progressive, always have and always will. Its nothing to hide behind or be ashamed of.

So you think liberals can be equated with nazism? Seriously?

Never mind the fact that fascism is a right wing ideology. Don't worry that Hitler and the nazis killed many liberals in germany, e.g. socialist and labor union members.

The right has been trying to dodge that fact since WW2 by trying to make Hitler seem like a leftist. Don't fall for that. Please do not use the tired old line of 'the nazis were national socialist, so you see they were left wing' because that was a misnomer. They were playing on the popularity of socialism at the time and trying to gain the support of the working man.

edit on 2-7-2011 by megabytz because: (no reason given)

Nazi's were progressive, and socialist. Government knows best, and will take care of you, and don't you dare question it.

Originally posted by Carseller4

Originally posted by megabytz
reply to post by Kingbreaker

 

You don't know much about the progressive movement, do you?

Do you think it is a new term or that liberals just 'invented' recently?

Maybe take a political science class at your local community college. Or is that to 'intellectually elite'?

I consider myself a progressive, always have and always will. Its nothing to hide behind or be ashamed of.

So you think liberals can be equated with nazism? Seriously?

Never mind the fact that fascism is a right wing ideology. Don't worry that Hitler and the nazis killed many liberals in germany, e.g. socialist and labor union members.

The right has been trying to dodge that fact since WW2 by trying to make Hitler seem like a leftist. Don't fall for that. Please do not use the tired old line of 'the nazis were national socialist, so you see they were left wing' because that was a misnomer. They were playing on the popularity of socialism at the time and trying to gain the support of the working man.

edit on 2-7-2011 by megabytz because: (no reason given)

Nazi's were progressive, and socialist. Government knows best, and will take care of you, and don't you dare question it.

The USA was MUCH more socialist in the 1930s thru early 1980s than we are today. WAY, WAY WAY more socialist. And we were a much more successful country in those decades than now. We started to go downhill with Reagan and the first round of BIG tax cuts for the rich. The less we have invested in ourselves, the more we have gone downhill. Unregulated capitalism and tax cuts have been a catastrophe for this country.

BTW, socialists don't say government knows best. But there are many right wing dictatorships that do.

reply to post by Carseller4


Carseller, can you explain to us here some of the significant facts Glen Beck has stated in his show? George Soros? Communists in the whitehouse? What facts? thanks.

reply to post by Carseller4


You have to be kidding. Nazis were in no way progressive or socialistic. Their nationalistic stance and their anti-intellectualism should be enough for anyone knowledgeable of the various stances in the political spectrum to see that they were far right. The nazis violently opposed socialism and communism. I think you have a misconception of what socialism and progressivism is.

They were ultra-right-wing extremists. The line between socialism and fascism involves more than the government consolidation of power. In other words, socialism does not mean that the government knows what is best but fascism often does entail complete government control over everything. Government involvement does not point to either ideology. What is it that you think the left stands for? This should be good.

Originally posted by ClintK


The USA was MUCH more socialist in the 1930s thru early 1980s than we are today. WAY, WAY WAY more socialist. And we were a much more successful country in those decades than now. We started to go downhill with Reagan and the first round of BIG tax cuts for the rich. The less we have invested in ourselves, the more we have gone downhill. Unregulated capitalism and tax cuts have been a catastrophe for this country.

BTW, socialists don't say government knows best. But there are many right wing dictatorships that do.

The more a country taxes its people the less free the people are. We have turned into rugged individuals into a nation more and more dependent on government. Socialism will do that to a country.

Tax cuts for the rich? Who pays a majority of the taxes in the first place? Who employs a majority of people. When was the last time you got a job from a poor person?

Originally posted by mugger
Whether you like or dislike Beck,what he is pioneering in the future for broadcasting.
Anyone believe TV will stay as it is? Beck is on the right track, maybe just early into it.
Gates and Jobs were crazy also.

edit on 7/2/2011 by mugger because: sp

How exactly is he on the right track? By making up facts, changing history and pretending to cry?

If that's the future then oh no, we're screwed.

Beck is a blip on the radar, as soon as he is off TV (for good) he'll be forgotten about the next day.

If someone truly believes Progressive is on the same level of Nazism, then they are more hopeless than one can ever imagine.

But if Glenn Beck says it, I guess it must be oh so true!

reply to post by Senteri


How many Tv shows are exclusively computer based only? Open your eyes. The TV is dead except as a huge monitor. Beck i totally in control of his content. I pads and I phones? What I am talking about is the end of TV as you know it. That is what Beck has stated if you open your ears. I could care less about his show. Beck is going to were our future lies. Does anyone pay for Netflix or purchase a movie from your cable company?
The future lies with computer driven shows and direct purchasing. Once direct purchasing happens, many stations will go under and another loss of jobs.
NFL Network and Yankees Tv ring a bell?

Originally posted by Carseller4

Originally posted by ClintK


The USA was MUCH more socialist in the 1930s thru early 1980s than we are today. WAY, WAY WAY more socialist. And we were a much more successful country in those decades than now. We started to go downhill with Reagan and the first round of BIG tax cuts for the rich. The less we have invested in ourselves, the more we have gone downhill. Unregulated capitalism and tax cuts have been a catastrophe for this country.

BTW, socialists don't say government knows best. But there are many right wing dictatorships that do.

The more a country taxes its people the less free the people are. We have turned into rugged individuals into a nation more and more dependent on government. Socialism will do that to a country.

Tax cuts for the rich? Who pays a majority of the taxes in the first place? Who employs a majority of people. When was the last time you got a job from a poor person?

I guess you either didn't read my post or just ignored what it said. We were WAY more socialist in the past, and these were the country's best hours.

"The more a country taxes its people the less free the people are." That's rubbish. We've cut welfare, education, health care, aid to impoverished communities and hundreds of government programs so rich people could have even more money. And it hasn't done a thing for us. Wait. It has. It has put us in decline.

When was the last time you got laid off and you job shipped to another country because of a poor person.

It's not the rich who employ us anyway. It's companies that employ us. It's organizations and institutions that employ us. It's not "the rich." Giving them credit for our welfare makes me sick.

Originally posted by Carseller4

Originally posted by ClintK


The USA was MUCH more socialist in the 1930s thru early 1980s than we are today. WAY, WAY WAY more socialist. And we were a much more successful country in those decades than now. We started to go downhill with Reagan and the first round of BIG tax cuts for the rich. The less we have invested in ourselves, the more we have gone downhill. Unregulated capitalism and tax cuts have been a catastrophe for this country.

BTW, socialists don't say government knows best. But there are many right wing dictatorships that do.

The more a country taxes its people the less free the people are. We have turned into rugged individuals into a nation more and more dependent on government. Socialism will do that to a country.

Tax cuts for the rich? Who pays a majority of the taxes in the first place? Who employs a majority of people. When was the last time you got a job from a poor person?

The typical right wing talking points.

The last time a poor person hired you for a job? When was the last time a rich person hired you? Rich people do not hire people, companies do. My last job was with a person who made less that $150,000. Jobs are provided by demand, not the wealth of individuals. Ever take an economics class?

The rich pay a large portion of the taxes, and rightfully so. However, the middle class and poor should not have to take hits in balancing the budget while the rich get more tax breaks.

People are not less free based on the amount of taxes. Taxes have to exist for us to have our society of 300 million people. Tax rates are at historically low levels and trickle down economics is still pissing on us all.

reply to post by v1rtu0s0


I don't know, I only watched the first 2 minutes and I cannot say I necessarily disagree with him. I definable think he's extreme and jumps on things without thinking. I don't, however, see this as his end.

reply to post by v1rtu0s0


haha good thread

You sir have NO idea what YOU are talking about, this man has done far more for this country in terms of reporting/news than you could ever fathom

reply to post by Gorman91


Glenn Beck's not going anywhere, that's for sure, but he's not getting anywhere either. This is why he's taking to focus on the radio and on the internet. He milked the viewership of fox enough, he made a killing, and that's that.