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On CNN a While Ago CNN Claimed Texas Has Job Growth

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posted on Jul, 1 2011 @ 09:58 PM
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BS and lies?

What i am seeing so far are only showing minimum wage type jobs, governmental jobs aswell thats not something to cheer on, as these jobs dont last long,


Minimum wage type jobs, are your typical

$1,000 to $2,000

High paying wage jobs are

$6,000 to $10,000 and so on

Minimum wage type jobs dont bring happiness that just brings more slavery to the capitalism system.





Actually, Texas is not broke.

Please do some research. We may be down, but we sure as hell are not out.

--From June 2009 through April 2011, the country added 496,000 jobs, and the Dallas Fed says that 237,000 of them were in Texas.--



Minimum wage low paying jobs and government private sectors, i assume the you replied to me you work at a government private sector job? like military,education health etc.

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posted on Jul, 1 2011 @ 10:08 PM
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The way things are set now, states are competing for corporate businesses. One states willingness to have lower state or corporate taxes automatically hurts any other state with higher taxes.

In the end this is completely destructive to states that have any social programs to help with the needy or middle class within their borders.

I have no idea how this can be fixed...but the way things are set up now...it's completely set up to drive down wages.

It's just as destructive as free trade, but only on a national scale.



posted on Jul, 1 2011 @ 10:18 PM
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A job is a job. At least people with minimum wage jobs are trying to support themselves instead of living of the government's tit.

Fight the slavery and capitalist system?



Yes. Let's go with Socialism. That has turned out reaaaal great.

BTW, what we have in the US is Corporatism, not Capitalism. Learn the difference.



posted on Jul, 1 2011 @ 10:33 PM
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Please note....Rick Perry is NOT Texas. G.W. Bush is not Texas and never was. He is Connecticut.
Perry is a golden boy. He is doing his time here in Texas, we all know what he is all about. We knew years ago that he was headed to the White House because he is a NAFTA boy.
But it doesn't really matter what we know...
dumb asses in Ontario...or Dallas, or #ville USA or Canada don't really think very deeply, they just keep voting these golden boys into office.
But, here on ATS, we are so much better. We piss on Texas because of Perry.



posted on Jul, 1 2011 @ 10:43 PM
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I missed this nugget


Originally posted by Agent_USA_Supporter


. . .

Minimum wage low paying jobs


And? At least they have a job. Or would you rather they all be on welfare? I am sure people in Michigan would rather have a minimum wage job over no job at all.

You also fail to realize that the cost of living in TX is pretty damn low compared to most others.

You also failed to realize that obviously Texas is going to add more minimum wage jobs than other states because Texas added more jobs than any other state.
Derp.

Nevermind the growth of the illegal alien population driving wages down.

But let's ignore facts and parrot Rachel Maddow.



and government private sectors,


--The private sector is where its at; less bureaucracy, more opportunity to advance and the ability to create and maintain jobs even in the midst of a recession. It certainly kept Texas on its feet and winning the jobs race by a landslide in the past decade. According to a new study from the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics, the Lonestar state added 732,000 private sector jobs in the past 10 years, while no other state added more than 100,000. In fact, only 19 states plus the District of Columbia added any jobs at all! Link--


i assume the you replied to me you work at a government private sector job? like military,education health etc.


My job has nothing to do with anything. Nice try at a personal attack. Denied!

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posted on Jul, 1 2011 @ 10:47 PM
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And? At least they have a job. Or would you rather they all be on welfare? I am sure people in Michigan would rather have a minimum wage job over no job at all.


I live in Michigan. Kind of pointless to even have a minimum wage job when you can't support yourself on it....better off to be on unemployment if that's your only option.

it's not possible to live on 7.24 an hour. Many of these people are trying to hold on to their homes.

That being said, there are little to no jobs here....and the ones that are hiring aren't paying much or require skilled labor. I've been one of the lucky ones but there are lots of people out there struggling.




The private sector is where its at; less bureaucracy, more opportunity to advance and the ability to create and maintain jobs even in the midst of a recession. It certainly kept Texas on its feet and winning the jobs race by a landslide in the past decade. According to a new study from the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics, the Lonestar state added 732,000 private sector jobs in the past 10 years, while no other state added more than 100,000. In fact, only 19 states plus the District of Columbia added any jobs at all!


How many of those jobs Texas gained came from other states? And if they gained many jobs from other states, why would states that lost jobs to Texas think highly of it?



posted on Jul, 1 2011 @ 10:56 PM
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Originally posted by David9176

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I live in Michigan. Kind of pointless to even have a minimum wage job when you can't support yourself on it....better off to be on unemployment if that's your only option.


So it is better to live on the government tit


YOU are what is wrong with this country.


it's not possible to live on 7.24 an hour. Many of these people are trying to hold on to their homes.


Yeah it is. Texas has a lower cost of living. Look it up.




. . .

How many of those jobs Texas gained came from other states? And if they gained many jobs from other states, why would states that lost jobs to Texas think highly of it?


I dunno the exact number. I know they would not think highly. They are jealous



posted on Jul, 1 2011 @ 10:59 PM
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I dunno the exact number. I know they would not think highly. They are jealous


Are you jealous of China? They pay low wages and corporate taxes are low. Great employment numbers over there. Great to see your enjoyment of your fellow Americans who are struggling.




So it is better to live on the government tit YOU are what is wrong with this country.


You are what is wrong. Even if they take minimum wage jobs, they are still going to need assistance. Single mother with 2 kids needs to make over 20 dollars an hour to pay the bills.

As I stated, I've been lucky and worked throughout the recession, was on a short stint of unemployment for 3 months years ago. If I weren't married, there is still no way I could afford a home, a vehicle, etc. In fact, can barely do it now even with 2 incomes.
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posted on Jul, 1 2011 @ 11:05 PM
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The following is my opinion as a member participating in this discussion.


Yeah, I hear they’re opening up a new McDonalds out that way.
Should provide about 20 minimum wage jobs that can be fought over by the thousands of medical staff who are now unemployed due to Medicare/Medicaid cutbacks.


As an ATS Staff Member, I will not moderate in threads such as this where I have participated as a member.



posted on Jul, 1 2011 @ 11:08 PM
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Originally posted by Lemon.Fresh
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A job is a job. At least people with minimum wage jobs are trying to support themselves instead of living of the government's tit.




Actually, no. A job at McDonald's does not pay the bills,and that person is still likely to need assistance from that government 'tit'.

job growth in the minimum wage market is not growth to be proud of.



posted on Jul, 1 2011 @ 11:11 PM
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Originally posted by Lemon.Fresh


And? At least they have a job. Or would you rather they all be on welfare? I am sure people in Michigan would rather have a minimum wage job over no job at all.


IS that the only option in your mind? Minimum wage job that doesnt actually pay the bills, or welfare?

Hell, minimum wage jobs ARE welfare. A company like, say, burger king, can pay people ridiculously low wages because of layers of public-supported subsidies, social programs, etc. These companies get HUGE tax breaks and direct handouts from the taxpayer for hiring people at next to nothing. THAT is real welfare, not social assistance. Corporations raping the public trough for their own bottom line.

The US is going to be a third world economy soon.



posted on Jul, 2 2011 @ 12:45 AM
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BTW, what we have in the US is Corporatism, not Capitalism. Learn the difference.



They are actaully the same but in respects different from each other, but Corporatism belongs in Capitalism because it is Capitalism that has brought Corporatism in the first place.



A Job isnt a Job when your working as a slave for the Corporatism, a job should have been relaxing but it isnt because its bringing people stress on them for no reason, a job should be where you and your loved ones feel at ease.


I have to ask you who do you work for ? do you work for you or work for them?
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posted on Jul, 2 2011 @ 08:07 AM
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So you want each state to put up an economic Berlin Wall? Why not just make them their own countries?

So what if companies or rich folks decides to move from one town to another, you want to stop that, too?



posted on Jul, 2 2011 @ 08:50 AM
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So you want each state to put up an economic Berlin Wall? Why not just make them their own countries?


Where did I state that?


I have no idea how this can be fixed.




So what if companies or rich folks decides to move from one town to another, you want to stop that, too?


Yes that's exactly what I'm advocating.



posted on Jul, 2 2011 @ 09:40 AM
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Let me list the reality of jobs and growth in Texas. According to the US Chamber of Commerce. They should know if anyone does. Texas has a 9.1 unemployment rate up from April not down. Texas rates #8 in overall growth. Texas is ranked #5 in Innovation up from #16 due to an increase of small business. Cost of living is 87.70 using a 100 national index. Take Iowa for instance. Iowas has a 6% unemployment rate. Iowa ranks #10 overall growth and #6 in productivity. Growth in small business has been stagnant. Cost of living 83.90 using a 100 national index. Wages are much lower along with social programs in Texas next to Iowa wages and social programs. Tof exans need to stop listening to the proganda they are being feed and realize that although they aren't as bad as Michigan they also aren't as great as their pride and ego wants to claim. It is due to this fact that the state has and will continue to be used for the breeding grounds of the Bilderburg groupies such as the Bushes and Rick Perry among others. If you want to be as great as you think you are then now is your opportunity to prove it.



posted on Jul, 2 2011 @ 10:18 AM
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Texas is my home and I love it. I just bought a two-story 2000+ square foot house for $184,000. House prices are on point, and there are plenty of jobs to go around. I think my county is at 6% so we're good. Think before you speak on this state. We don't operate the same as the rest.

As for the poor education, social services, etc. I've always felt that Texans believed more in helping each other than relying on gov. The number of charter school around here is amazing. Let's do things ourselves before asking for help. Buck tho gov!



posted on Jul, 2 2011 @ 10:32 AM
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I am glad things are going well for you and people need to enjou where they live. However the unemployment rate for Harris county Texas is 8.2 % somewhat lower than the state average of 9.1% . My daughter just relocated from the Houston area and I was there in Sept of last year. Believe me things might be good for you but definitely isn't rosy. My daughter was working 2 jobs and was going to college. As things have regressed there she has found her self out of work and now has graduated from college can not find work period. Nothing from slinging hamburgers to medical which her degree is in. Many professionals have also been axed by Nasa which some I know personally. All I am saying is its time to get your heads out of the clouds this certainly isn't a glory days of Texas.



posted on Jul, 2 2011 @ 11:54 AM
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I love TEXAS... Texas, especially the major metro areas like here in Houston, DFW SanAnton, & El Paso, has always thrived because of the Port and military. Most Army personeel end up at Ft. Hood at some point in their career and typically end up staying in Texas after serving. Vets are hired quicker and usually perform better. Similar to Georgia, with all its miliary post.
If you can drive and can obtain a CDL, you will def find a job here in Houston.



posted on Jul, 2 2011 @ 12:30 PM
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Some observations (meaning Not backed by statistical or reported data) about this topic

I've lived in the Dallas/Fort Worth area for 12.5 years.
I'm in the IT field and have worked for various industries. During the housing boom and later crash, I was working for 2 different home-builders. One is gone now (bankrupt) and the other filed and then reorganized as a shell of it's former self. During the housing crash I saw a few homes in my subdivision that went HUD (foreclosure). The area I live in is one of the most financially stable areas in the metroplex. During this crash, new home construction was at a standstill and was for almost 3 years.

This year so far I've noticed roughly 3x the amount of new construction in my area. I see trucks and subcontractors Everywhere - almost back to 2005 levels. New homes are popping up everywhere. These are 225-500k price-point homes.

None of my friends got laid off during this recession. None of my friends are unemployed. Nobody I'm friends with on Facebook/Linked In in this area has lost a job. I know of some people that landed Upgraded jobs. I know that people are still getting raises and promotions.

My best friend built a new house down the street in a large subdivision that was booming big-time prior to the crash/recession and then died. It is now booming again. All of the homes in his segment are new homes. His neighbors that built around them are transplants from CA mostly. They were able to sell their over-priced homes out there, sometimes at a loss and still were able to pay cash for a 300k home here. They also love it as far as the people, activities, economy and opportunity.

Bash TX all you want but there's nothing you can say that will take away our happiness



posted on Jul, 2 2011 @ 12:31 PM
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Boy, do I have a system for you! en.wikipedia.org...





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