Octomom: "Babies disgust me"

this makes me sad. I have 4 children and admit freely that there have been times when those little monsters have chased me into my room where I sat on the other side of that door downright weeping.... little hands coming under the door the whole time like some sort of zombie invasion. Scary stuff motherhood....but then I realize that all situations are what you make of them. I wipe my eyes, pull open the door quickly, startling them and I let loose my mommy voice. They snap to attention and then together we go and find something for them to do (its really to tire them out but macaroni art and laps around the yard is not a bad method)

This woman was deprived of love as kid. look at the way she clamors for attention and acceptance as an adult. And because we are a child worshiping society hat likes to often treat children as quick fixes to all a woman's problems...she figured she would pop out a few sources of unconditional love and all would be fine and dandy. Sadly...I am not unfamiliar with this feeling. i have counseled women as well as dealt with my own bouts of baby fever. And motherhood is often romanticized. Angelina c\and Madonna can have a boatload of kids because they have a boatload of money. To them they are probably like Prada handbags. Cherished....adored...always room for more. But to someone like Octomom...who has probably dreamed of being famous for something...anything...since she was little....this kind of thinking is dangerous because she was totally disconnected from the reality of her situation...and thats wack....and wacky. If she wants help she should get it in the form of childcare workers volunteering their time and taking care of those kids in shifts, that way she can return to work and be a productive human being. She could also get time to herself, which is very important. eventually those children will get older and the kind of adults they will become is being determined even now.

reply to post by irsuccubus

I have 4 children and admit freely that there have been times when those little monsters have chased me into my room where I sat on the other side of that door downright weeping.... little hands coming under the door the whole time like some sort of zombie invasion. Scary stuff motherhood....but then I realize that all situations are what you make of them. I wipe my eyes, pull open the door quickly, startling them and I let loose my mommy voice. They snap to attention and then together we go and find something for them to do (its really to tire them out but macaroni art and laps around the yard is not a bad method)

How are parents controlled by their children? What did you do to assure them that they have that kind of power over you?
I know it's blunt, and it may come off a bit rude but I truly am curious. How does that happen?

A very good friend of mine, her kids are something else, I'll tell you.
They don't listen, they try to hit her, and one single day of good behaviour gets rewarded by a trip to the candy shop.
......WHAT?!

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that was in no way an admission of being controlled by my children. I run a tight ship of homeschooled honor students with great manners. But a kid is gonna be a kid and put a group of them together and there will be noise, arguing, some punches thrown...even their mirth and laughter borders on earsplitting. In short...kids can be a trial even when they arent doing anything wrong. If you inferred anything close to helplessness on my part from the above post then let me correct it now. Powerless is not something in my vocabulary and I was instead remarking on the trials of parenthood. My oldest is almost a teenager so I have made it through the whole deal pretty well considering how long I have been doing it. But then I maintained perspective the whole time. I didnt come into this thinking it would be a smooth ride and it wasnt...acknowledging that fact does not make one weak in the least. It makes one a realist. I love my children and it is because I love them that I work as hard as I do. Perpetuation of the species does not stop at plopping out a child and it is up to us to produce worthy members of society. If we fail in that task...society will suffer. there is proof of this all around us. I do not reward bad behavior and finding something for a kid to do in the face of just running around like a maniac is a good start. That woman needs a system and perhaps help devising one.

and to add...when this happened they were all in the single digits....and it never happened more than once or twice...I am lucky to have a a fellow parental palindrome by the name of DAD. Irregardless..... spend 24 hours a day with 4 children under 10 and see how you fare.


edit again..you ask what I did...I am extremely sensitive to light and sound. A group of old ladies would drive me from a room as well.

There is no way that those children will get the attention they need. She already had 6 kids to begin with. Common sense alone should have told her 14 would be insane!

Originally posted by Night Star
There is no way that those children will get the attention they need. She already had 6 kids to begin with. Common sense alone should have told her 14 would be insane!

Amen, and I'm no parent. Somebody should screen people that are getting IVF for mental problems. Because I have a feeling if and that is a strong if; if she really said it.
That she'll be on the news for either killing her kids or herself. It's sad that all of this could've been prevented.

That Duggar woman should come over and give her lessons in litter care. Teach her how to turn the older ones into in house servants in order to compensate for lack of child care.

Originally posted by Saya13
reply to post by Afterthought

 

I know, but I really do not think anyone is actually going to help her, which is a shame. I think if anything happens, she may lose her kids, but I do not think that would really help her.

edit on 1-7-2011 by Saya13 because: posted before finishing the thinking process lol

I think there were many willing to help her in the beginning, and they clued into seeing how much she loved the publicity. But you're correct in saying that no matter what the circumstances are..she needs help now, and those kids do as well. She obviously was not of "sound" mental condition to even go ahead and try and have these babies. It's really sad that she has had to stoop so low as to do porn though....and I do hope she gets some kind of television deal , or some healthier way to try and maintain a life for herself and her children.

Of course she is overwhelmed, raising 14 kids by herself is not even remotely normal. Try stepping into a classroom for a few hours, then imagine living that way every day, cooking, cleaning, shopping and taking care of 14 kids by yourself. What kind of life would that be? I can't even imagine that.

I think she's on the verge of doing something really dangerous and she needs immediate help.

The question is what kind of insane person doesn't think about the consequences and hardships of having so many children. And why there isn't some kind of restriction on how many children can be implanted.
I mean, if an immature, confused woman comes and asks for "8 kids, please, in one package and with a blue ribbon", because she thinks that "oh, babies are so cute to play with", should the doctors unconditionally deliver that?

Originally posted by Saya13
reply to post by Afterthought

 

I know, but I really do not think anyone is actually going to help her, which is a shame. I think if anything happens, she may lose her kids, but I do not think that would really help her.

edit on 1-7-2011 by Saya13 because: posted before finishing the thinking process lol

No, but it might help them.

She needs to stop making this about her. She's made a huge mistake, and those children are paying for it.
I expect CPS will intervene after this article. Hopefully.

She CHOSE to have more kids when she already had 6 too many since she was unemployed! I don't pity her at all. I pity her kids who are in the middle of all this. I had a rough childhood too, but I don't use it for an exuse for doing stupid things. I am sick of people using that as an exuse.

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LOL! She's also busy making porn for adults with a fetish for being treated as a baby! A grown man in diapers, and she "is taking care of him".....uggggh......I'm sure that's exhausting!....and no, she isn't so desperate she "has" to do porn....she could do many other things. What about when her kids see that? (and they will one day) It's pathetic!

Sounds like my mother, she hates babies too. In fact, my own experiences helping friends and family members with kids up to the age of 15 means that despite being only 27 myself, I'm gonna get a vasectomy when I can cause no way in hell I'm gonna have kids of my own.

Won't cope, don't even have enough money to feed myself, wouldn't want any kids to inherit depression and besides, I think children are like dogs. Filthy, dirty, disgusting, way too messy. No thanks.

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Dude, I want to give you a big kiss for that comment. So true. I helped take care of my disabled grammy upstairs. It was like taking care of a child toward the end, I have yet to have a proper vacation.Children are like dogs and I'm 14, going on 15 still a child myself. I think I'll get my tubes tied.

shes on the dole with 14 kids and now shes complaining?
She should of kept her legs shut when the turkey baster came knocking then.

sad...sad....sad....
first off, i feel so bad for the children! They will grow up and thanks to the interent and their fame there is no way they will go their whole lives without seeing or being told about htings like this! They were used as a pawn for attention - my only hope is that as they reach school age, their teachers can hopefully identify if there are any emotional issues and work with them, even though that is not really the job of teachers. I can imagine that child welfare will be at least making a few random visits after reading that article - i would hope they would anyway. Maybe someone close to her should be forwarding the article to child protection and the local authorities.

on the other hand, with the fame of her octoplets waning, one must consider that this is nothing more than another grab at fame from her. The hooplah over having so many children has gotten old, no one cares anymore - time to step it up a notch with some good old fashioned pity.
I am willing to place a bet on her next move:
legal action aganist the doctor that inseminated her, based on the grounds that only an idiot dr would perform such a thing on such a young adult. She will take all of the things people have said about her situation and list them off in court to explain why the dr was negligent in granting her wishes for so many babies. Her age, her marital status, the fact that she already had six children, her income. She will tell the judge and jury that she was not in a fit mental state to be making that kind of decision and her dr should have denied her. I bet the lawsuit will be for two million dollars. She may even try to claim that he co-erced her - talked her into doing it as a PR stunt for himself, promising her that the fame she got would more than pay for the cost of luxury nannies. all she wouldh ave to do is look pretty with them for the pictures.
Just wait, i bet she does it.

poor thing she is, i almost feel sorry for her, until i remind myself no one made her do this.
I can imagine having fourteen kids! I have two, but they are so loud and energetic and active it is really like having four, and I have fibromyalgia, so raising them through the cloud of fatigue and pain makes it more like having eight, and i am divorced, so never getting a break or a full night's sleep almost doubles that number again, lol. Not really, I jest. but even with my lack of health and my daughters' abundance of it, i wouldnt trade a moment of it, let alone for a second telling anyone they disgust me. Even at the worst, i know I have two miracle children that for six years i was sure i would never be able to have. They are what they are meant to be, miracles, angels, blessings, so i could never think of them as anything less. The fact that octomom sees her children as otherwise,at least long enough to call up a paper and complain about it in an interview, is because her children were none of those things to her. They were not gifts from god, she bought them from a dr. She didnt imagine her life without children adn cry everyday over the pain of it, so her children are now outliving their welcome.

poor poor kids.

Originally posted by Ophiuchus 13

Originally posted by Manhater
One thing I am appalled about, is the statement where she says "I wish I never had them". Imagine her kids coming on the internet and seeing that? I think that's wrong for any mother to say to her children. If you didn't want them, then you shouldn't of had them.

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Thats why I hope some family is keeping an eye on her...

Good point

Why is it the family's responsibility to make sure,she as an adult, won't make more bad choices,and live the rest of their lives moraly stuck with this situation?

Shouldn't the Doctor be held more accountable?

Her parents are out of their minds over this. They were not consulted in this no win situation for all parties involved.

This will not end up on the cover of Life Magazine or opening page of Yahooe in 15years with a "where are they now?" and everything worked out just fine.

These children deserve better then being a freak carnival side act, and we can pay to see them when we feel like it."Hi kids,NOW what do you think of your mommy?"

I'm not that religous in a main stream religion. (NO, I'm not waiting for David Bowie to Land from Mars either.)

At this point, these kids need a prayer,and so does the rest of the family. It's a horrible mistake.

The Doctor should be held financially accountable,Mom should bite the bullet and share those children. and have something happen for the kids in a positve way, without the help of Gloria Aldrege.

Chrisellesm you write better then I do.

Good job.

Im a hack writer.

This sounds like sour grapes. The attention has died down and it's, boo hoo poor me having all these kids is hard and not the cash cow I had hoped it would be. Ya stupid having a child is a choice you should put some thought in to. I have no sympathy what so ever. Come on, no one told her this was a bad idea? If she had that many cats and or dogs she couldn't care for she would be labeled a hoarder and they would be removed. Cats, dogs, children its a mental illness. The doctor who preformed the invetro should have to help support them and babysit while she gets seen by a metal health professional.

Originally posted by Afterthought

I believe that artificial insemination should only be allowed for women who do not have any children and have tried several other methods prior to the procedure. No doctor should be allowed to implant more than two eggs at one time.

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personally, i bleieve many factors need to be thought out first, a whole think tank of people on it. Figure out the rules and make some firm, lasting decisions about the case for insemination. I dont habe the heart to say no one should get it - I have been there not being able to have children for so long, I know how that can tear a woman up. So some should be allowed to get it. But there should be a long and lengthy screening process. It takes months to get approved to adopt a child - i tried that myself, though never managed to get a child before getting pregnant.

I think that there should be a parental assessment AND a socialogical assessment.
Is the parent fit?
Does the parent have the necessary income to support the child?
Does the parent have adequate social/coping skills?
Does the parent have a support network of friends and family in place?

and the social aspect:
Does the parent live in an area that can support another child, or is it brimming over with children in the streets adn foster care?
Can a suitable baby/young child be found within the state that would make a good choice for adoption?

I am all for every woman that wants and can handle a baby having a baby. But to inseminate when there are children in your own backyard that could use a mom or a foster mom??? There is a social responsibility in playing God. Dont make babies when the ones that are here do not have mothers and fathers and food! Sounds so simple.

I was a foster paretn for a while - i had thirteen children in my year and a half, and it was a wonderful experience I will never forget. Maybe octomom could have seen the selfless side of being a mother, and chosen that as a path to surround herself with children. but no - she had to be famous instead.