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Executive Order 13575 "RURAL COUNCILS"

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posted on Jul, 2 2011 @ 12:09 PM
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Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus

Originally posted by Kitilani
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Yeah, the idea of Utopia is disgusting.


I'm not surprised by your comment. I've read some of your posts before.


Then you should know by now that I understand English pretty well.

U·to·pi·a   /yuˈtoʊpiə/ Show Spelled
[yoo-toh-pee-uh] Show IPA

–noun
1. an imaginary island described in Sir Thomas More's Utopia (1516) as enjoying perfection in law, politics, etc.
2. ( usually lowercase ) an ideal place or state.
3. ( usually lowercase ) any visionary system of political or social perfection.


Sounds pretty damn good to me. What is your argument against that?


Some people truly believe that the dictators and the Elite of this world truly want a divinely inspired Utopia where everyone has equal say in things. Marxism has never delivered this Utopia in any way shape or form, and it is completely naive to think that those who are trying to shape every aspect of our lives through social engineering and dictatorial "sustainable" advice in our communitities really care about us. You really could benefit from researching the real agenda of the UN an Agenda 21, and what they really have in store for us. They have sold the world a bill of goods talking about being "sustainable" (just another UN buzzword meaning "control of the world's resources by an Elite few) and it's just amazing how some people really believe a handful of Elite have our best interests at heart. Just look at the Club of Rome, Bill Gates and Melinda Gates foundation, and their agenda of depopulation and you will understand that their true agenda is getting rid of the "human parasites" on the planet so that they can have all the resources to themselves. These Elites parade around like they care so much about the common people( just more Marxist nonsense about the proletariat, and even Karl Marx had a maid servant, so he was no better than any of these so called rich people. ) but their real agenda is to get rid of the useless eaters. They will use whatever methods they like, including but not limited to sterilants in the water, sterilants in vaccines(BIll Gates self professed favorite), abortion, financial incentives to limit family size, and controlling all the resources of the planet through rationing. It's so diabolical, and you would do well to get rid of that naive belief they will bring a lovely gorgeous happy Utopia.


Wow. That sure is a lot of stuff that other people think about other stuff. I just think it is kind of silly to castigate Utopia itself because you do not like how some other people think they can get there. Maybe take that up with them.




posted on Jul, 2 2011 @ 12:32 PM
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What does the dictionary definition of Utopia and Thomas More's book have to do with the Socialist plan for a Totalitarian One World Govt as laid out by the UN Agenda 21 and it's sponsors such as Maurice Strong, Bill Gates, the Club of Rome, and other power elites? You must be completely on board with TPTB. My post is based on my personal research into the UN Agenda 21, the Club of Rome, Bill Gates statements at the TED conference regarding his personal ideas about using vaccines to stem population growth, and about 30 years worth of general research on the topic of the New World Order. So no, it's not just what other people think. It's years of research and my own thinking process which has distilled everything I have to say. Plus a bit of New Age knowledge and mysticism, as well as Progressive Revelation(not Democrat Progressive), and personal spiritual growth.
Tell me, what about the idea of Utopia makes you think it's so special?

I recommend your handlers declaw you as well.
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posted on Jul, 2 2011 @ 12:48 PM
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Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
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What does the dictionary definition of Utopia and Thomas More's book have to do with the Socialist plan for a Totalitarian One World Govt as laid out by the UN Agenda 21 and it's sponsors such as Maurice Strong, Bill Gates, the Club of Rome, and other power elites?


Absolutely nothing. What was it supposed to? Your entire post in full reads as follows.


Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
Oh gosh, the first couple sentences of that EO talk about "winning the future". Please gag with a spoon!!!!!! It's all just so disgustingly collectivist, socialist, Utopian, using Orwellian type terminology.


You did not specify the Utopia you were thinking of. You just said it was one of a few things you find disgusting. That to me is a crazy thing to write. If you were thinking something else it may surprise you learn I cannot read what you are thinking about. I sure as hell could not read in that post what you were going to right later in another post.


You must be completely on board with TPTB. My post is based on my personal research into the UN Agenda 21, the Club of Rome, Bill Gates statements at the TED conference regarding his personal ideas about using vaccines to stem population growth, and about 30 years worth of general research on the topic of the New World Order. So no, it's not just what other people think. It's years of research and my own thinking process which has distilled everything I have to say. Plus a bit of New Age knowledge and mysticism, as well as Progressive Revelation(not Democrat Progressive), and personal spiritual growth.


Sounds like you have no idea what you are talking about really.


Tell me, what about the idea of Utopia makes you think it's so special?


Everything. I have been having trouble finding any place that is ideally perfect so that sounds pretty good to me.



I recommend your handlers declaw you as well.
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Oh wow, good one. Cat references are pretty original too.


I am sorry if you are confused about what Utopia means. The word itself does not refer to a specific Utopia from a specific mindset, book, or political affiliation. It just a place that is perfect.
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posted on Jul, 2 2011 @ 01:02 PM
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Kitilani, you are playing word games. That is why I asked why it was so important to know the dictionary definition of something that is being used by the Elite to control us? The word Utopia in a general sense means just what the dictionary says, but it's usage in today's lexicon and the agendas of the Elite are obvious to anyone who knows anything about Karl Marx and Marxist philosophy. I am well aware of the Platonic essence you are trying to convey in a general sense, but the Socialist Utopians of today have de-population as their true motive for the controls they seek to impose on us worldwide.
Sorry, I misunderstood which post you meant, as I made several of them.



posted on Jul, 2 2011 @ 01:06 PM
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Sounds like you have no idea what you are talking about really.


And why would you say that? Because you like the idea of a collectivist Utopia and I oppose your belief that the Socialist Utopians want a wonderful happy planet full of vibrant beings all in harmony with each other? Or is your belief really from a New Age idea that we are all happy beings if only we could just smile with each other and share the wealth???? Oh, wait that's Obama style Socialism, sorry.
No, I do know what I am talking about. It seems that you just don't like what I have to say.



posted on Jul, 2 2011 @ 01:07 PM
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federal government intervention is not the solution

real solutions to problems need to be found, not a federal usurp of authority

i admit there are alot of people who through the generations have forgotten how to take care of themselves and generally now willingly accept government help for things they can do themselves

for those people i feel sorry

but i say again, the whole give federal government control idea - not a solution, especially considering the elite the power is given to.

you've seen the economy and what they're doing about that

is there anything federally run that doesn't become corrupt, complicated beyond anyone's benefit and bankrupt ?

and now you suddenly think the federal government couldn't possibly screw this one up?

not even when they're already bankrupt? when they're fighting secret wars in the middle east without congress' approval?

you are entitled to your opinion however i most definitely disagree in the most civil way possible... but this effects us ALL



posted on Jul, 2 2011 @ 01:07 PM
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In my estimation, this is more bureaucratic entrenchment. Through the bureaucracy, in which the government is increasingly more becoming, regulations, rather than law will dictate local politics and local communities. Nefarious? Maybe not, but to what need is there for such a council?

You have to put this E.O. in context. Standing alone it means nothing. Put it together with other developments it becomes rather sinister.


Its use is to "officially" organize the wiping out of independent farmers so the land can be turned over to the Ag Cartel. Heck George Soros AND the US government is ALREADY buying up the best farmland!!! Remember the FDA and USDA are FILLED with Ag Cartel puppets: SEE: Government-industry revolving door Heck just do a search under government/corporate Revolving door!


First there is the Renewable Energy Resolution:

...the “25 x ‘25” initiative, states:

“….that it is the goal of the United States that not later than January 1, 2025, U.S. agricultural, forestry, and working land should provide from renewable resources not less than 25% of total U.S. energy consumption and continue to produce safe, abundant, and affordable food, feed, and fiber.” rehberg.house.gov...


And then you have the fact the US has ALREADY been divided into ten regions and the power of the states is gradually being replaced by "Regional Governance" by NON-ELECTED GROUPS!

This blog puts together many different pieces to give a pretty good picture of the whole:

...In a 1969 press release, President Nixon designated ten federal regions, purportedly to “streamline the structure and processes of federal agencies in the field.” Each region was to have an appointed chairman (bureaucrats accountable only to Washington, D.C.) for its Federal Regional Council. Federal Regional Councils were further defined and legitimized in Nixon’s Executive Order 11647 of 1972 (www.sweetliberty.org...)....

The UN’s website verifies that the Agenda 21 action plan is Sustainable Development. Agenda 21 (UN Agenda for the 21st Century) is a 300-page, 40-chapter, “soft-law” policy that came out of the UN Conference on Environment and Development (UNCED) in Rio De Janeiro, Brazil in 1992. (Maurice Strong was Secretary-General of this “Rio Earth Summit.”) Agenda 21, though not legally binding, was adopted by 179 nations, including the United States, as a work plan to implement Sustainable Development. The following year, President Clinton created The Presidents Council on Sustainable Development through executive order. The 25-member council includes most Cabinet Secretaries, as well as representatives from The Nature Conservancy, the Sierra Club and other NGOs, as well as industry representatives. The function of this Council has been to find ways to implement Agenda 21 recommendations. In this manner, with virtually no legislative debate whatsoever, the federal government has been implementing Sustainable Development programs nationwide.... www.truthwinds.com...



More recently we have the "Food Safety Modernization Act" passed in December 2010 that goes in effect 2012.
The new law includes the following section:

SEC. 404. COMPLIANCE WITH INTERNATIONAL AGREEMENTS.
Nothing in this Act (or an amendment made by this Act) shall be construed in a manner inconsistent with the agreement establishing the World Trade Organization or any other treaty or international agreement to which the United States is a party.
www.fda.gov...


This turns control of farming and farm regulation over to the World Trade Organization/United Nations
Background info:
NATIONAL HISTORY of the takeover of farming: www.opednews.com...

International:
smirkingchimp.com...
www.smirkingchimp.com...
www.smirkingchimp.com...

World Wide Harmonization of Ag/Food laws: - Straight from the FDA!

International Harmonization
FDA.gov

The harmonization of laws, regulations and standards between and among trading partners requires intense, complex, time-consuming negotiations by CFSAN officials. Harmonization must simultaneously facilitate international trade and promote mutual understanding, while protecting national interests and establish a basis to resolve food issues on sound scientific evidence in an objective atmosphere. Failure to reach a consistent, harmonized set of laws, regulations and standards within the freetrade agreements and the World Trade Organization Agreements can result in considerable economic repercussions...”

The FDA then lists organizations like Codex Alimentarious. FAO and OIE (UN) and a bunch of others that they are "harmonizing" with.


“...In a sweeping move that has garnered surprisingly little attention this week the United States and the European Union have signed up to a new transatlantic economic partnership that will see regulatory standards “harmonized” and will lay the basis for a merging of the US and EU into one single market, a huge step on the path to a new globalized world order....” The BBC reported (news.bbc.co.uk...) from the Summit in Washington on Monday: stopspp.com...


Therefore we can look to Europe for a glimpse of our future:

Lessons from the UK:

... North Farm is the last working dairy farm left for miles. Mr Lawton said: “… all my neighbours have given up. It’s become incredibly bureaucratic and it’s completely over-powered by bureaucrats – there must be two civil servants in Defra (Department for the Environment and Rural Affairs) for every farmer in the countryside.” . …The sheer amount of paperwork and restrictions on what farmers can do is a problem – it takes up around 60 per cent of Mr Lawton’s time. “It’s difficult particularly for us family farms who don’t have a huge staff for administration,” he said www.thisisswindon.co.uk...


Lessons from Poland:

Julian Rose exposes the scandal of EU’s deliberate policy to get rid of family farms for the benefit of the corporations and gives a personal account...

....Through the auspices of a senior civil servant in Warsaw, Jadwiga and I were able to address a meeting with the Brussels-based committee responsible for negotiating Poland’s agricultural terms of entry into the EU. It proved to be an ominous foretaste of things to come....
After clearing her throat and leaning slowly forward, the chair-lady said: “I don't think you understand what EU policy is. Our objective is to ensure that farmers receive the same salary parity as white collar workers in the cities. The only way to achieve this is by restructuring and modernising old fashioned Polish farms to enable them to compete with other countries agricultural economies and the global market. To do this it will be necessary to shift around one million farmers off the land and encourage them to take city and service industry jobs to improve their economic position. The remaining farms will be made competitive with their counterparts in western Europe.”

There in a nutshell you have the whole tragic story of the clinically instigated demise of European farming over the past three decades. We protested that with unemployment running at 20 percent how would one provide jobs for another million farmers dumped on the streets of Warsaw? This was greeted with a stony silence, eventually broken by a lady from Portugal, who rather quietly remarked that since Portugal joined the European Union, 60 percent of small farmers had already left the land. “The European Union is simply not interested in small farms,” she said....

...we were invited to the Polish parliament to address the government’s agricultural committee. I gave a speech entitled, “Don’t Follow Us”, in which I explicitly warned of the fate in store for the Polish countryside if Poland joined the EU. I gave some vivid examples of what had happened in the UK over the past two decades: the ripping up of 35 000 miles of hedge rows; the loss of 30 percent of native farmland bird species; 98 percent of species-rich hay meadows, thousands of tonnes of wind and water eroded top-soil, and around fifteen thousand farmers driven off the land every year, accompanied by a rapid decline in the quality of food....



www.i-sis.org.uk...



posted on Jul, 2 2011 @ 01:13 PM
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Oh wow, good one. Cat references are pretty original too


If the claw fits, honey!




]Everything. I have been having trouble finding any place that is ideally perfect so that sounds pretty good to me.


Great! I hope you find what you are looking for.
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posted on Jul, 2 2011 @ 01:21 PM
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Awesome post crim!


Collective farming controlled by communists in Russia did now work. I am afraid that collective farming is the goal with the Obama crowd, knowing their Marxist ideals.



posted on Jul, 2 2011 @ 01:48 PM
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Anyway, the EO is more govt intrusion into our lives. It's liberal fascism to the T.



posted on Jul, 2 2011 @ 02:17 PM
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Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
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Kitilani, you are playing word games.


I am reading the English words you wrote and reading them as written.


That is why I asked why it was so important to know the dictionary definition of something that is being used by the Elite to control us?


I know but since I never said anything about the elite or control because that was not in the post I responded to, you are arguing against things I have not said.


The word Utopia in a general sense means just what the dictionary says, but it's usage in today's lexicon and the agendas of the Elite are obvious to anyone who knows anything about Karl Marx and Marxist philosophy.


Just because you think someone else uses it to mean something else does not actually change the meaning of the word. I think you just want to argue to argue. It was really not this important to me.


I am well aware of the Platonic essence you are trying to convey in a general sense, but the Socialist Utopians of today have de-population as their true motive for the controls they seek to impose on us worldwide.
Sorry, I misunderstood which post you meant, as I made several of them.


I just responded to what you actually wrote.



posted on Jul, 2 2011 @ 02:17 PM
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Originally posted by indigothefish
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federal government intervention is not the solution



Great!

I never said it was.



posted on Jul, 2 2011 @ 02:18 PM
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Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
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Oh wow, good one. Cat references are pretty original too


If the claw fits, honey!




]Everything. I have been having trouble finding any place that is ideally perfect so that sounds pretty good to me.


Great! I hope you find what you are looking for.
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I really wish this meant as much to me to cause me to make personal attacks as it does to you.



posted on Jul, 2 2011 @ 02:32 PM
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Originally posted by ADVISOR
It is only 3 pages, there is no excuse for people not to read it, other than sheer laziness.



Executive Order 13575—Establishment of the White House Rural Council



I read the executive order. I think this is another attempt to revisit the " forty acres and a mule" promise of reparations for slavery from the post civil war years.



posted on Jul, 2 2011 @ 02:45 PM
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Originally posted by whatwasthat
I read the executive order. I think this is another attempt to revisit the " forty acres and a mule" promise of reparations for slavery from the post civil war years.


...and that is why this thread is so funny. It really seems some people have a problem understanding English words and those same people are scared of an EO that is right here and reads nothing like they seem to think it does. It does not get more clear than that.



posted on Jul, 2 2011 @ 03:29 PM
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Originally posted by ownbestenemy

Originally posted by boondock-saint
reminds me of Hitler and 1939.
Velcome to ve New Vorld Order.
You will do as ve ask
or you vill disappear
any questions ???


It is an inquiry Boon.....Why does it remind you of 1939 and Hitler?


cuz Hitler did the very same thing in Germany.
Nationalized all the agricultural resources.


In rural areas, party members successfully infiltrated the influential chambers of agriculture,
helped by the agricultural crisis of 1930-1932.


pinecrest.edu

Look at what is happening with all the floods
in the USA (Ag crisis of 2011).

Now this legislation from Obama is basically
doing the same thing Hitler did after their rural
crisis.

Obama is using his cabinet members (heads listed in the document)
Hitler used his party members as well (Nazi Party Officials)

Obama is no different than Hitler in this respect.

Invasion and occupation of Afghan and Iraq
and bombing of Libya.

Sounds even more like Hitler.

Do you not see how America is turning into
the Fourth Reich supported by NATO and
the UN ????



posted on Jul, 2 2011 @ 03:34 PM
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Collective farming controlled by communists in Russia did now work. I am afraid that collective farming is the goal with the Obama crowd, knowing their Marxist ideals.


I do not think that is quite true based on my recent research. First there are two groups. The Communists who want Marxism through revolution and the second group who "SAY" they want Marxism through gradual methods. This second group, the Fabians Socialists are by far the more dangerous. This is the group we often cal the "Elite" or TPTB.


...As we have said, Socialism is not a share-the-wealth program, as the socialists would like you to believe, but a consolidate-and-control-the-wealth program for the Insiders.... www.modernhistoryproject.org...


The Fabians are also the group that "Bankrolled the Bolshievik Revolution" I think that the Soviet Union was one of their "FAILED EXPERIMENTS" and that is why it was allowed to collapse in 1990. (No use throwing away money on a failed experiment) Red China on the other hand is having the "Elites" version of "Capitalism" grafted on to its communist base. Another experiment if you will. They are trying to find the best method for managing the "Sheeple"


Someone else mentioned it reminds him of modern cattle farming methods. I call it free range slavery.

The idea is to have people THINK they are free and working for themselves so they put in the maximum amount of effort while the elite suck off the wealth generated in the form of taxes, price inflation/wage deflation....

Vertical Integration in farming is a classic example:

...The broiler chicken industry is perhaps the best example of how rapidly and thoroughly a meat production system can become industrialized and vertically consolidated. Up until the 1950s, most poultry and laying hens were raised in a non-intensive fashion on small family farms. In the early 1950s, technological innovations in automated production, disease control, and nutrition-including the use of antibiotics as growth promoters-allowed large, confined broiler operations to surpass the production capabilities of traditional poultry farms. This led to the development of contract or credit agreements between feed dealers and growers, where feed dealers would supply credit to growers in the form of feed or chicks in exchange for payment when the mature chickens were sent for slaughter. Over time, companies began to integrate and own all aspects of the production process-feed mill, growing birds, and processing plant-and then would contract with growers to house and care for their birds in exchange for a fee. (9) Today, approximately 90% of all broiler chickens are raised by farmers under production contracts and the remaining 10% are raised on-site by the integrated poultry companies themselves. (10) The biggest percentage of the broiler production in Texas is controlled by three companies-Pilgrim's Pride, Tyson, and Sanderson Farms. (11) www.consumersunion.org...


Because the farmers buy the chicken houses from the corporations they literally become SLAVES to the corporations in order to pay back the mortgage on the equipment. As soon as the equipment is paid off the federal Regs have changed and the equipment is now obsolete. A friend earns $0.10/bird and has not had a raise in over ten years. He and his wife both work full time jobs in addition to farming like over 90% of American farmers.

Over half of American farmers LOSE an average of $15,000 a year and that was from 2002 Census. Farmers have only one buyer the Ag Cartel who sets the price. But with the "organic" and buy local movements gaining ground the corporations were starting to get competition from the direct consumer therefore the independent farmer has to go.

I think Dan Estulin was closest to the mark but he left out the "Socialist" wrapping paper.

...Bilderberg organization is dynamic, in that it changes with the times, absorbs and crates new parts while excreting the remains of the decaying parts. Members come and go, but the system itself has not changed. It is a self-perpetuating system, a virtual spider web of interlocked financial, political, economic and industry interests....

It´s a meeting of people who represent a certain ideology.

Not One World Government or New World Order as too many people mistakenly believe. Rather, the ideology is of a ONE WORLD COMPANY LIMITED.

...The idea behind each and every Bilderberg meeting is to create what they themselves call THE ARISTOCRACY OF PURPOSE between European and North American elites on the best way to manage the planet. In other words, the creation of a global network of giant cartels, more powerful than any nation on Earth, destined to control the necessities of life of the rest of humanity, obviously from their vantage point, for our own good and in our benefit
[hence the "Socialist" wrapping paper"] – THE GREAT UNWASHED AS THEY CALL US.
______beforeitsnews/story/73/389/Transcript_Video_Daniel_Estulin_Bilderberg_Speech_at_EU_Parliament_Press_Conference.html


If you look you will find the Fabians, London School of Economics, Rhodes Scholarships, Round Table, Club of Rome, Ford, Carnegie, and Rockefeller foundations.... are all interconnected.

This is the people we call The Elite, the bankers and CEO TRAINED at the London School of Economics or similar schools. For example George Soros is a graduate of the London School of Economics, Clinton is a Rhodes Scholar,.


Among the more famous Rhodes Scholars:

* Dean Rusk (CFR, Secretary of State, 1961-69)
* Walt Whitman Rostow (Special Assistant for National Security Affairs, 1966-69)
* Harlan Cleveland (Assistant Secretary of State for International Organization Affairs in the Kennedy administration, Ambassador to NATO under Presidents Johnson and Nixon)
* Nicholas Katzenbach (CFR, U.S. Attorney General, 1965-66)

* Sen. James William Fulbright (Arkansas, 1945-74)
* Sen. Frank Church (Idaho, 1956-81)
* Sen. Bill Bradley (New Jersey, 1979-97)
* Sen. David Boren (Oklahoma, 1979-94, CFR)
* Sen. Richard D. Lugar (Indiana, 1976-)
* Sen. Larry Pressler (South Dakota, 1979-97, CFR, Phi-Beta-Kappa)
* Sen. Paul Sarbanes (Maryland, 1977-)
* Rep. Elliot H. Levitas (GA, 1975-85)
* Rep. Carl Albert (OH, 1947-77, Speaker of the House from 1971-77)
* Rep. John Brademas (IN, 1959-81, later New York University President)
* Gov. Bill Clinton (Arkansas, 1979-81, 1983-92; President, 1993-2001; CFR, Trilateral Commission -- he didn't graduate from Oxford)
* Gov. Richard Celeste (OH, 1983-91)
* Supreme Court Justice Byron 'Whizzer' White (1962-93, also Phi Beta Kappa)
* Brig. Gen. Pete Dawkins
* Gen. Bernard W. Rogers (Supreme Commander of the NATO forces in Europe, 1979-87)
* Gen. Wesley Clark (Supreme Commander of the NATO forces in Europe, 1997-2000)
* Stansfield Turner (CIA Director, 1977-81)
* R. James Woolsey (CFR, CIA Director, 1993-95)

* Charles Collingwood (TV commentator)
* Howard K. Smith (TV commentator)
* George Jerome Goodman (writer known as 'Adam Smith')
* Hedley Donovan (former Editor-in-Chief of Time magazine, later a senior advisor to President Carter)
* Robert Penn Warren (Pulitzer Prize-winning poet and novelist, best known for his book All the King's Men).


....In 1895, Sidney Webb founded the London School of Economics, which became a branch of the University of London. Among its major contributors: the Rockefeller Foundation, the Carnegie United Kingdom Trust, and Mrs. Ernest Elmhirst, the widow of J. P. Morgan partner Willard Straight, who founded the socialist magazine New Republic....

www.modernhistoryproject.org...



posted on Jul, 2 2011 @ 03:38 PM
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if there was nothing sinister about this
then why did Obama use an executive order
instead of putting it up for a vote in congress.
He went behind their back to do this.

and WTH does the DHS and the DOD have to
do with agriculture ???

absolutely nothing

unless you are planning on using the military
to enforce rules on the land.

This was the very reason why the Gestapo
was created by Hitler, as an enforcer.



posted on Jul, 2 2011 @ 04:09 PM
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As an American this is a very troubling action. First it is completely illegal. I challenge the supporters to cite the clause in the constitution that allows the federal government to do any of this. The issues that they appear to be looking at are states issues. One of the wonderful things the constitution called for is the states to develop these policies. Why is that important? One idiotic policy can't bring the country to its knees.

One of the strengths of the USA is it is capable of feeding the world and has the capacity to feed itself many times over. Orders like this can only put that at risk. What I think is at play is the country is bankrupt and the idiots in Washington see a huge surplus in capacity available to help pay the debt. However they believe they will have to force rural land to be used for this production while the landowners benefit from the production will be limited as to provide the benefit of the bankrupt PTB.



posted on Jul, 2 2011 @ 04:17 PM
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and WTH does the DHS and the DOD have to do with agriculture ???


Oh they have already explained that (snicker)

DIRECT FROM THE HOMELAND SECURITY WEBSITE:

Homeland Security Presidential Directive 9: Defense of United States Agriculture and Food
HSPD 9 Abstract

Homeland Security Presidential Directive (HSPD) 9 establishes a national policy to defend the agriculture and food system against terrorist attacks, major disasters, and other emergencies. America's agriculture and food system is an extensive, open, interconnected, diverse, and complex structure providing potential targets for terrorist attacks. U.S. agriculture and food systems are vulnerable to disease, pest, or poisonous agents that occur naturally, are unintentionally introduced, or are intentionally delivered by acts of terrorism. The directive lays out policies, including roles and responsibilities, awareness and warning, and vulnerability assessments, to provide the best protection possible against a successful attack on the U.S. agriculture and food system. www.dhs.gov...


This is authorized by the Patriot Act:


....SEC. 1013. EXPRESSING THE SENSE OF THE SENATE CONCERNING THE PROVISION OF FUNDING FOR BIOTERRORISM PREPAREDNESS AND RESPONSE.

(a) FINDINGS- The Senate finds the following:

(1) Additional steps must be taken to better prepare the United States to respond to potential bioterrorism attacks.

(2) The threat of a bioterrorist attack is still remote, but is increasing for a variety of reasons, including.....

(9) Improvements must be made in assuring the safety of the food supply.
epic.org...

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