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Originally posted by Phantom28804
Ok so this is another step into the trend of Fascist America. I do not understand why we as a nation and people continue to let this # happen. What happened to Liberty and Justice for all? Now it's just Liberty and Justice for those that choose not to do anything unhealthy?
How long before they stop hiring people for being more then 10% of there body weight, or not having the proper DNA strain like in the movie Gattaca.
This isn't the first time that I have said this America is becoming more and more of a Dystopian Society.
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Originally posted by Phantom28804Ok so this is another step into the trend of Fascist America. I do not understand why we as a nation and people continue to let this # happen. What happened to Liberty and Justice for all? Now it's just Liberty and Justice for those that choose not to do anything unhealthy?
Originally posted by Team Locke
reply to post by Phantom28804
Good. They'll get more production out of non-smokers. Smokers are always out on a smoke break. Smokers are worse than heroin users. They pollute everyone with that vile nasty smelling smoke.
Originally posted by k21968
reply to post by Phantom28804
I work for Humana and I smoke and I am overweight. I guess I should start looking for alternate employment.
We were discussing this at our daily meeting yesterday and the smokers amongst us brought up that it was discrimination. Our boss said they have a gadzillion attorneys who have already ensured no legal action could come of it.
Fortunately the state I live in has not done this yet. However, I dont think they could. Kentucky is the tobacco capital of America. It concerns me. I am good at my job, I go to work (today is a vacation day) and I meet or exceed all expectations from the company. If they asked me to stop smoking tomorrow to keep my job I would have to quit to feed my family, but I would then have to persue medication for the rage that would ensue. Smoking calms my nerves.
Whats next? Not hiring people who drink a glass of wine with their dinner? It is the same thing. ALcohol hurts/ kills many people and causes health problems as well.
This topic was a hot one at work yesterday and basically the non smokers were happy and the smokers were not. There was no in between.
I choose to smoke. I smoke in our "smoke shacks" outside. My smoking hurts no one but myself. It does not affect my work performance so I do not understand this at all.
Most cyanides are released from vehicle exhausts and from industrial processes such as iron and steel and chemical manufacturing.
Originally posted by haarvik
reply to post by the owlbear
Ok, so then by your logic, if they won't hire anyone who has visited ATS or FB in the last six months, they won't hire you. Or maybe you are a member of the First Baptist Church on Main street, they won't hire you. They are not discriminating against religion, just the church you attend. If you own a Chevy, or stock in their competitor they won't hire you. Where does it end? Seems ludicrous when you put it into perspective, but it is relevant. The point we are making is it is an intrusion into your personal freedoms and liberties, period.
Originally posted by InnerTruths
I cannot get hired to certain places because I use medical marijuana. Yet, this plant has never caused a case of cancer (because it tends to cure cancers). No one has ever died, people do not accrue unbelievable health care costs due to bronchial or pneumonia infections...
Originally posted by peck420
reply to post by TheFlash
Maybe you should drive them to a family picnic?
Oh wait, that is exposing them to 100's of times the amount of those very same carcinogens...
What a better way to show that you love them?
Originally posted by canselmi
Originally posted by vkey08
this is 100% Unconstitutional. They can regulate smoking on their own property but they cannot test for a legal substance that any adult over 18 can purchase. I forsee a flurry of Federal Lawsuits up and coming..
So let's pass a law saying companys can't refuse to hire a tobacco user. Heck let's go one step further and say that a company's work force must be made up of at least 20% smokers, and if not then it's discrimination.
I firmly believe it is not the government's job to determine whom a company can and can not hire.