Originally posted by SpeachM1litant
reply to post by Xcathdra
As much as I would prefer the Transitional National Government in comparison to a radical Islamist faction, there is no way I can say that the
government is legitamate: Somalia is a failed state, central government has entirely failed it's purpose and thus I do not advocate intervention,
even if it is requested, infact I would say that the request for foreign intervention just highlights the failure of government and the fact that it
is not legitamate.
I don't see how many like you (I'm not saying you) advocate drone strikes on Somalia on the basis the the Transitional National Government is
legitamte, yet they would advocate the opposite in Libya, saying the the Gadaffi goverment is illegitamate, when it is evident that the Gadaffi regime
exercised far greater state power thus showing that his legitamacy is/was far greater then that of the Somalian government.
Both at this moment in time, in my eyes are failed states and in my eyes the U.S should issolate itself from both in a military interventionist
On the other hand, I do not see how we can tolerate the status quo
in the Mogadishu area. The "leaders" there shell relief food kitchens and
inoculation centers. Well water pumps are stolen from refugee communities by the radicals leaving large numbers without potable water or irrigation
for crops. The leadership has no human concern, instead of that, they have weapons-- and funding from other radicals.
Someone has to be the human. Those are real people suffering. The typical US citizen, meanwhile, cries out, "It is not our business! We don't
have any reason to be there! We shouldn't risk our troops for their mess!" But it is not our military men and women saying that-- it is the
business suited elite (liberal and conservative) who are afraid to risk self for the needs of the suffering. Really, it is the spending of
resources, not the shedding of the blood of American troops which causes them the feign alarmist isolationism. And it is only protecting resources,
not stopping the suffering of innocents, for which those elite are willing to shed the blood of our troops.
So, we send unmanned craft and damn the legality of it. We have to do something. Morality trumps legality-- and the US has the resources to help
even though the suffering in Somalia are of no strategic interest.
This, I believe, is quite separate from the multiple hot spots of unrest throughout the Middle East and North Africa getting US and International
attention. I have little doubt that the coincidence of the "grassroots" uprisings are anything but. Certainly most civilians in the US are worried
that we are spread too thin. I have little doubt that: this is exactly the radical Muslim intent; and that it is exactly the impression US wants the
radical Muslims to have of us. In that regard, things are not as they appear.
Under the guise of allowing ourselves to be spread too thin -- "only reacting," we are quietly deploying ourselves with strategic intent. And to
hint that all is not as it appears, to what end would the radicals increase attacks, such as the hotel in Afghanistan, as a response to our
announcement of a significant withdraw? Doesn't that seem counter-intuitive? It is not the first time increased attacks from the radicals has
coincided with a US announcement of draw-down. We pretend not to notice.
Y'all do realize that the US is far more sophisticated in its strategies than the simplistic reactivity which is portrayed by its media and its
leaders? You get that, right? The US sees the hard times coming and is going to insure it is in the best position to minimize the damage to itself
and its allies, and also to make the quickest recovery. Much of that depends on the ignorance of even its own citizens, not to mention its enemies.
None-the-less, it is there to see.
I do not pretend to be privy to the secret strategic plans of the US, but I do claim insight from the study both of human behavior and of human
history. It is every bit as easy to assemble great minds for benevolent purposes as it is to assemble them for malevolent ones. From the outside
looking in, all most can see is consipracy; but sometimes good people conspire for good.