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Michele Bachmann's Husband Says Gays are 'Barbarians' That Need to be 'Disciplined'

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posted on Jul, 2 2011 @ 04:36 PM
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Originally posted by Annee
Why are humans who have done nothing wrong - - naturally born with attraction to same gender - - still being persecuted in the 21st century?

Why are human beings of naturally born attraction to same gender being used as political fodder?

It is insane and inhuman. There is no excuse for this. None.

Fortunately - - current polls show a 51% acceptance of gays. It is the first time these polls have tipped in the majority.

Progression is winning over ignorance.



Why don't you ask the UN people that question. Again, if you had any idea of the true nature of communist(read NWO Globalist etc etc) subversion, you would see that it is just an issue being exploited to create chaos and de-stabilization as Yuri Besmenov stated clearly almost verbatim.

Here is Griffin interview of him(you may recognize Griffin as the author of Creature From Jekyll Island), and Yuri himself says it is "leftists" promoting any and every issue.


RWB News: In the early 1980s, ex-KGB agent Yuri Besmenov explained the stages of socialist/communist takeover of a country from within. He revealed the propaganda technique of ideological subversion and how it leads to demoralization of a nation to the point of destabilization, until communist takeover can be achieved (this is when they roll in the tanks) in a process they call “normalization.” He discussed the manipulation and inevitable demise of useful idiots once “social justice” is achieved and warned of the impending “world communist conspiracy.” When you watch this interview, see if you can figure out what stage America is in right now. In the subsequent 7-part seminar, Besmenov explains Communist Subversion in detail.


redwhitebluenews.com...

ok so now Im done with this
you can use ridicule or whatever but I know that regardless of people's personal opinions on the issue, the real agenda is far more diabolical.
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posted on Jul, 2 2011 @ 04:36 PM
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Is he running for President? So who really cares.

If you want a Christian viewpoint, it is against the Bible, along with pedophilia. I do know my Bible enough to recall.
Do not associate with promiscuous women, deedlle little boys and girls,(this isn't the King James version),
Can anyone show me were in the Bible it clearly states that homosexuality is acceptable? You can not.
As a Christian, I will pray for your soul, I am not to judge. Please, do not try and make my religion conform to your beliefs. Yeah, the Bible says to love one another, that arguement is moot for the Christian world, if they follow the Gospel.

Disprove it through the Bible? Under our Constitution, I can always disagree with it. I do not have to accept your immoral behavior. Do as you please at home, never expect me to accept or believe your stance.
I hunt and fish. Should I make a lobbyist group to make everyone hunt and fish? Vegetarian?, should I lobby to outlaw McD's?



posted on Jul, 2 2011 @ 04:45 PM
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Originally posted by Senteri
That Republican actually gave a rather moving statement about simply valuing the rights of others. I guess that did not happen where some ATS members are coming from.


I heard that. It was really good. I hope more Republicans come to realize that human rights are for us all. It's not a liberal issue, it's a constitutional and human issue.



posted on Jul, 2 2011 @ 04:47 PM
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Originally posted by Senteri

Originally posted by Annee
I personally find it extremely offensive to class acceptance of homosexuality as a liberal issue or even a political issue.


Especially when you consider things like the fact that gay marriage passed in NY state thanks to that last Republican that voted for it, it seems like a weak argument to attempt to limit the belief they have basic rights to just one side of the political spectrum. That Republican actually gave a rather moving statement about simply valuing the rights of others. I guess that did not happen where some ATS members are coming from.


Yes - that was amazing. And I think he was being personally sincere.

NOM (National Organization for Marriage) is trying to sabotage the careers of the 4 Republicans who voted for gay marriage.

The president of NOM outright admits - - they have No positive programs for strengthening marriage - - their entire focus is to stop gay marriage.

NOM has pledged to spend $2 million in an effort to reverse the marriage law and unseat the legislators from both parties who voted for it.

Pretty Damn Sick!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

www.lgbtqnation.com...



posted on Jul, 2 2011 @ 05:03 PM
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Originally posted by mugger

If you want a Christian viewpoint, it is against the Bible, along with pedophilia. I do know my Bible enough to recall.


Interpretation of the bible is subjective. Each individual has the ability to CHOOSE how it interprets. I have no compassion nor understanding for those who continue to accept the archaic interpretation it is an abomination of god.

Homosexuality and the Bible
by The Rev. Dr. Walter Wink

Sexual issues are tearing our churches apart today as never before. The issue of homosexuality threatens to fracture whole denominations, as the issue of slavery did a hundred and fifty years ago. We naturally turn to the Bible for guidance, and find ourselves mired in interpretative quicksand. Is the Bible able to speak to our confusion on this issue?

The debate over homosexuality is a remarkable opportunity, because it raises in an especially acute way how we interpret the Bible, not in this case only, but in numerous others as well. The real issue here, then, is not simply homosexuality, but how Scripture informs our lives today.

Some passages that have been advanced as pertinent to the issue of homosexuality are, in fact, irrelevant. One is the attempted gang rape in Sodom (Gen. 19:1-29). That was a case of ostensibly heterosexual males intent on humiliating strangers by treating them "like women," thus demasculinizing them. (This is also the case in a similar account in Judges 19-21.) Their brutal behavior has nothing to do with the problem of whether genuine love expressed between consenting adults of the same sex is legitimate or not. Likewise Deut. 23:17-18 must be pruned from the list, since it most likely refers to a heterosexual prostitute involved in Canaanite fertility rites that have infiltrated Jewish worship; the King James Version inaccurately labeled him a "sodomite."

Several other texts are ambiguous. It is not clear whether 1 Cor. 6:9 and 1 Tim. 1:10 refer to the "passive" and "active" partners in homosexual relationships, or to homosexual and heterosexual male prostitutes. In short, it is unclear whether the issue is homosexuality alone, or promiscuity and "sex-for-hire."

www.soulforce.org...



posted on Jul, 2 2011 @ 05:05 PM
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Originally posted by mugger
As a Christian, I will pray for your soul, I am not to judge. Please, do not try and make my religion conform to your beliefs. Yeah, the Bible says to love one another, that arguement is moot for the Christian world, if they follow the Gospel.


Your bible is not relevant.

This is a secular government.



posted on Jul, 2 2011 @ 05:07 PM
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Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus

Why don't you ask the UN people that question.


We are not discussing the UN.

Or the NWO.



posted on Jul, 2 2011 @ 05:26 PM
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I like when one person in one party does something the entire party is immediately guilty. Then you can't even discuss it without red herring derailment attempts. Here's an idea: make a thread about that instance or bump up an old one....because if it is something Palin or Obama did a thread more than likely already exists here. Stay classy.



posted on Jul, 2 2011 @ 07:37 PM
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I will say this...the homosexual SPIRIT....is nothing nice to play with. If people think, for 1 second...that this is 'normal', well then, you need your head examined. And for those of you that feel EVERYONE has to 'accept' the homosexual community, and if they don't they're homophobes, really needs to stop FORCING us to accept this PERVERSION.

Why do i have to accept something that is UN-NATURAL? Oh, and please do explain to me HOW it is natural? Love has NOTHING to do with this. This is just another one of man's perversions. Plain and simple!

And for those of you that are still in denial about what is going on, in our society...i think you'll enjoy this. Stop being so damn ignorant to the agenda.


Also, please tell me this...why are more people being 'born gay" these days? Brainwashing, manufacturing, what?



posted on Jul, 2 2011 @ 07:42 PM
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Originally posted by nuttin4U
I will say this...the homosexual SPIRIT....is nothing nice to play with. If people think, for 1 second...that this is 'normal', . .


It IS Normal. 100% Normal.

And sadly - - they have to accept people like you.

Fortunately - - again - - 51% of the population is beyond ignorance.



posted on Jul, 2 2011 @ 07:55 PM
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Originally posted by Annee

Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus

Why don't you ask the UN people that question.


We are not discussing the UN.

Or the NWO.


You mean YOU are not discussing the UN or the NWO, but I am, because it has penetrated to the core of every aspect of our lives. You are one of the most preachy, do-gooder Progressive types I ever met. You peddle moral relativity and preach at everyone who disagrees with any of your positions. You think you have the moral highground because you adhere to the Progressive PC Humanism. Liberals are some of the most intolerant people.
I have had enough of your bossy, do-gooder banter.
And while we are on the subject of morality, I do object to Kevin Jennings peddling "fisting" techniques to teens at public conferences. This is morally reprehensible and your do-gooder attitude won't change that.
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posted on Jul, 2 2011 @ 08:05 PM
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I dont understand how you 'think' the BIBLE is not relevant? It's exactly what America was built on. I think most of you have forgotten, America WAS a Christian nation....like it or not! See, the real problem is people feell God's laws are no longer relevant, in their 'secular' government! But see, that was the very reason why America prospered...and exactly the reason why America will collapse. You cant live anyway you chose, and expect a good outcome, and that's exactly what's happening. Live by the sword, DIE by the sword.

Dont think for 1 second, you can mock God and HIS word, and not pay the price for your rebellious, disobedient, carnal ways. It simply doesnt work that way.

In God's kingdom...there are rules and regulations...and it's not because God wants to rule your life (He gave you FREE WILL). See, God (like the Father He is) knows what's good and bad for HIS children. The reason HE commanded us to live a certain way, is for OUR benefit...not HIS/HERS. We're the ones that need help...not HIM. HE created heaven and earth....along with your flesh seeking ways.

But, you'll learn....even if it is THE HARD WAY! When the discipline hits, just remember: "whom the Lord loves, HE chastens". So, get ready to experience HIS everlasting love. HIS children have gone astray, and it's time to bring on the ass whoopin; like a good FATHER should!

And, what's that saying....something about forgetting the past and doomed to repeat it? Think Sodom and Ghomorrah, or even the days of Noah...when the same 'spirits' were roaming the earth.

Certain things...God can tolerate....others....HE WILL NOT TOLERATE. Please understand....homosexuality is an ABOMINATION; but, God will respect your decision...just respect the discipline, that will follow YOUR decision. Don't blame or cry, "why God why". I'm telling you why, NOW!

Do you really think God should 'bless' your disobedience? "Obedience is better than sacrafice!!!" If God said, DON'T...it behooves you NOT TOO! The beautiful thing about God is this, when you repent (change your mind), HE forgets all about your wrong doings...and remembers them NO MORE!

Mankind needs to get a grip...quickly. Things are NOT getting better...and they're about to get real ugly!



posted on Jul, 2 2011 @ 08:09 PM
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Just because he has a Reverend in front of his name does not mean he is a true representative of God's Spirit. He is reflecting the pc religious humanism side of the Humanist Manifesto.
This Reverend seems to be claiming that some Christians are demanding a return to some practice of executing homosexuals. I have yet to see or hear of any Christians recommending that, and last I checked it was Islam which promotes the stoning of adulteresses, not Christians. And yet it is liberals who seem to like the idea of Sharia Law, and are even being instrumental in establishing a base for Sharia Law in the US. So what's up with that Annee????? Is that also a part of your idea of tolerance?
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posted on Jul, 2 2011 @ 08:12 PM
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Originally posted by nuttin4U

I dont understand how you 'think' the BIBLE is not relevant?


It is not relevant in a secular government. We are a secular government. We are NOT a Christian government.

For too many years Christianity has had a "hold" on this country - - - which is not acceptable.

ATS thread: "The United States was not founded in Christianity? I beg to differ.," www.abovetopsecret.com...



posted on Jul, 2 2011 @ 08:16 PM
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Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus

Originally posted by Annee

Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus

Why don't you ask the UN people that question.


We are not discussing the UN.

Or the NWO.


You mean YOU are not discussing the UN or the NWO,


NO - - this thread is not about the UN or NWO. You continue to try to evade the actual subject with diversion.

You want to discuss other things like the UN - NWO - Obama - Liberal - whatever.

Start a thread.



posted on Jul, 2 2011 @ 08:17 PM
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Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus

Originally posted by Annee

Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
Well the Equal Rights Amendment was never passed really. That was for feminism though and not for Gays. Wrong argument. Under the Constitution, we already have equal rights. It's just that the traditional concept of marriage is being hotly debated.



Can you get any sillier. I am fully aware of the ERA. I'm a female of the 60s.

14th Amendment. Its Equal Protection Clause requires each state to provide equal protection under the law to all people within its jurisdiction.

Traditional marriage went out the window with its escalating divorce rate. Traditional marriage is a total cop out argument to deny same gender couples the same right to Legal Marriage.

But - that is getting off topic.


No, it isn't. This is part of the bigger picture, as I have posted on the UN Agenda regarding the Rights of the Child to explain further my point that the issue is being exploited to further the communist agenda of destroying the nuclear family as per the communist Manifesto and the ideas of Karl Marx.



Stalin and Hitler murdered gays for being gay... You are trying to hitch your opinion
Onto a post that is very weak. shall we equate your ideas with dictatorial tyranny because
You share a hatred for gays with historical tyrants? that is the mechanics
Of your logic.

The existence of gayness and gay sex does not endanger family unless the
Husband and father is into men. I mean, do you feel the slightest bit worried that one day
You might run off and get boned for fun???

It makes zero sense, it is so contrary to logic
It is sad eye... Why don't lead with your opinion instead of trying to feed us
Bogus cover stories? It is transparent which makes you look silly



posted on Jul, 2 2011 @ 08:18 PM
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Wants you to please enlighten me on HOW this is "normal". Because, as you know...part of the homosexual argument is that animals in the wild behave that way...therefore, it MUST BE RIGHT. But see, we are not ANIMALS...we are MAN...and we are EXPECTED to behave better than the 'animals'; not act just like them.

If you want to be 'gay'...which is a play on words...that's your CHOICE. Go be 'gay' in the confines of your own bedroom! Stop roaming the streets trying to convince people that what you are doing deserves recognition...because it doesn't. It deserves the SHAME that it gets!

Sorry, but there's nothing worse than seeing a 'man' acting like a woman. Excuse me, acting worse than a girl!

Oh, and if it's so "normal"....than make a baby! PROVE IT! Oh, that's right....YOU CANT! Therefore, it goes against nature....unless science comes to the rescue. What would happen if artificial insemination or adoption wasn't readily available? What would happen to your delusional little family then?

Maybe the gay community is heterophobic! Have you ever thought of that?

And, if it's so 'normal' why didnt God make it possible for man/man and woman/woman to reproduce? Deny ignorance!



posted on Jul, 2 2011 @ 08:19 PM
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Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
reply to post by Annee
 


Just because he has a Reverend in front of his name does not mean he is a true representative of God's Spirit. He is reflecting the pc religious humanism side of the Humanist Manifesto.


I have no idea what you are talking about.

Is this about the thread subject?



posted on Jul, 2 2011 @ 08:24 PM
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Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
This is morally reprehensible and your do-gooder attitude won't change that.
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There's the truth


Tough tits, mind your own dick and live your life the way you see fit.
God and The constitution gave you Control of you own domain, you are
Not the earthly word or hand of divinity, get use to it.



posted on Jul, 2 2011 @ 08:25 PM
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I've never said anything about murdering gays. What a bunch of nonsense. It was Annee who posted that ridiculous liberal Humanist Reverend who said that Christians want to execute gays, and I've never heard a Christian say it. And yet Progressives and Leftists promote Sharia Law.







 
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