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Originally posted by Nightfury
Ok...
Let me be the first to tell you that you will probably get all day long here, BUT...
I'll give you your first bump cuz I think you are on the right track. The Bible does say Damascus will fall and it's the next big sign we are waiting for.
The timing I think is off a bit. I believe it will happen on a Sabath year. 2016, if not 2023 etc. 2016 is the most likely right now with all the tension going on over there, but time will tell I guess..
Good luck and keep your head up, you're going to need it with this one...
Originally posted by SadButTrue
Middle East is always on fire.. one of these days it will burn down.
I've heard many responses to this question from many mainstream believers...... so I ask for your answer too.
If it is how you say about love and peace and god, and the paragraph about love, envy, etc....... then why is god a different god in the old testament?
Originally posted by Artanis667
My intention is certainly not to derail the thread, I just want to put this verse out there
For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith--and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God.
-Ephesians 2:8
We're not saved by loving God and loving one another, love works in a believer and our works are not what save us.
You come to the help of those who gladly do right,
who remember your ways.
But when we continued to sin against them,
you were angry.
How then can we be saved?
All of us have become like one who is unclean,
and all our righteous acts are like filthy rags;
we all shrivel up like a leaf,
and like the wind our sins sweep us away.
-Isaiah 64:5-6
Love remains the greatest as with perfect love, faith is unneeded. Although no one can attain it.
Originally posted by kro32
Why do you think Damascus is ready to fall? Seems like it's doing ok to me.
I'd love to see a forum section on ATS just for people who want to preach and throw up bible versus with nothing else tangible. This post would fit right in there.
Originally posted by SuperiorEd
God has never been different. He is as steady as a rock. What you need to understand is the progression of covenants. Each section of History was a marker in the birth to death cycle of mankind. When you read about how God destroyed a nation, you are not realizing what the people of that time were like. You are only comparing this to our present day and age. There is no comparison. Men were barbarians. It is only through God's guidance that we have developed the way we have in the last two thousands years. Just look at the history from the death of Christ to today. There is no comparison. We, all of us, are amazingly good compared to the men of old.
When you look at the Bible, you are peering into a mirror. The reflection will speak to people differently depending on the spirit they listen to. A believer looks in the reflection and sees man and God together. An atheist can only see man and his only clouded image. He misses God all together. Clean your vision and you can see God standing right there beside you every moment.
Originally posted by SadButTrue
Originally posted by SuperiorEd
God has never been different. He is as steady as a rock. What you need to understand is the progression of covenants. Each section of History was a marker in the birth to death cycle of mankind. When you read about how God destroyed a nation, you are not realizing what the people of that time were like. You are only comparing this to our present day and age. There is no comparison. Men were barbarians. It is only through God's guidance that we have developed the way we have in the last two thousands years. Just look at the history from the death of Christ to today. There is no comparison. We, all of us, are amazingly good compared to the men of old.
When you look at the Bible, you are peering into a mirror. The reflection will speak to people differently depending on the spirit they listen to. A believer looks in the reflection and sees man and God together. An atheist can only see man and his only clouded image. He misses God all together. Clean your vision and you can see God standing right there beside you every moment.
I fail to see the difference of how man was so different back then, do you mean they killed millions of people in Nuclear bombs back then? or that millions of africans and arabs weren't be slaughtered back then?
I fail to see how man was so different back then.... if anything, man has succeeded in being so much worse now then during those days.
Give me examples, I can't hear a word you're saying without examples. Without examples it sounds like a fairytale written to control man and give examples of what to do and not to do.
Originally posted by kro32
reply to post by SuperiorEd
I did read the link and it has nothing to do with the destruction of Damascus.
Damascus isn't the target of anything and just because there is conflict in the region in no way should lead anyone to the conclusion of bible prophecy.
London during world war 2 was reduced to ashes for all intents and purposes yet still remained a city so what exactly does the destruction of Damascus entail and who over their has the power to do that?
Things like this should be asked before the bible versus even come into play.
Christ died on a cross to save you from this mess. See it for what it is.